Foo - Anybody speak Chinese/Japanese?

Hey all,

I bought what i think is a Chinese I Ching coin and want to know what the characters mean, but i cant find much on the internet. Is it Chinese or Japanese? Any help would be appreciated,

Thanks

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u21/bgingerelli/noname.jpg

Grasp coin firmly in hand Weed Hopper and seek inner peace.

That is a Chinese coin, and the pictograms are classic Chinese pictograms rather than Chinese Simplified modern.

it's chinese.

might help if you turned it counter clockwise by 90 degrees.

the 3'oclock character is 'path
the 6'oclock character is 'wealth'
the 9'oclock character is probably 'intelligence'
the 12'oclock character is probably 'completeness'

some minor differences between Chinese and Japanese characters.

it's chinese.

might help if you turned it counter clockwise by 90 degrees.

the 3'oclock character is 'path
the 6'oclock character is 'wealth'
the 9'oclock character is probably 'intelligence'
the 12'oclock character is probably 'completeness'

some minor differences between Chinese and Japanese characters.

Thank you, So is this the correct way to look at the characters? Sorry for dark picture.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u21/bgingerelli/noname-1.jpg

yep, that's the correct way.

I'm not sure what the 9 and 12 characters are, but the 9 is definitely money related.
anything with 貝 in it is usually money related.

i suggest you do not get a chinese word tatooed without having a chinese speaker with you. Imagine getting tagged "*******" on your bum.

i suggest you do not get a chinese word tatooed without having a chinese speaker with you. Imagine getting tagged "*******" on your bum.

Lol, wasnt planning on it.

i suggest you do not get a chinese word tatooed without having a chinese speaker with you. Imagine getting tagged "*******" on your bum.

worst thing ever is tattooing a word you think looks/sounds cool in a language you don't understand into yourself. Everybody will frown when they see it.

there seems to be some sort of trendy thing where chinese words are tattooed. so strange. why not do it in your own language?

there seems to be some sort of trendy thing where chinese words are tattooed. so strange. why not do it in your own language?

to some people the meaning of the character can have a strong symbolic meaning to the persons life and or spiritual path.

there seems to be some sort of trendy thing where chinese words are tattooed. so strange. why not do it in your own language?

same mentality as using latin and greek words in the sciences.

to some people the meaning of the character can have a strong symbolic meaning to the persons life and or spiritual path.


stop smoking that stuff. there may be long term effects we don't yet know about.

anyway, back to topic. I think you can tell it is a chinese coin because of the square hole. it has something to do with the way they used to stack them and count them.

stop smoking that stuff. there may be long term effects we don't yet know about.

lol:)

alright kids, let the native speaker handle this:

12 & 6 o'clock says Xian-Feng (咸豐, roughly pronounced sian-feng, meaning universal prosperity), which was a dynastic reign title for the emperor Aisin-Gioro I Ju. He was an emperor of the Manchu dynasty. The Manchus were a group of nomadic tribes who invaded China in the 1600's, and controlled China until 1911. Even though the Manchus reigned over China, they are actually ethnically different (and indeed spoke a different language) from the majority Han people of China.

3 & 9 o'clock says 通寳 (tung-bao), meaning standard jewel. This signifies that the coin is a standard monetary instrument, minted during the reign of Emperor Xianfeng, to be accepted as legal tender throughout China.

I'm sorry to inform you that this has nothing to do with the I-Ching, but if you live in the U.S., i suggest you sue the pants off of the seller for misinformation :p

AEO, most of your definitions are correct, but each Chinese character often have numerous meanings. If you are not a native speaker, I'm actually quite impressed with your knowledge. :thumb:

alright kids, let the native speaker handle this:

12 & 6 o'clock says Xian-Feng (咸豐, roughly pronounced sian-feng, meaning universal prosperity), which was a dynastic reign title for the emperor Aisin-Gioro I Ju. He was an emperor of the Manchu dynasty. The Manchus were a group of nomadic tribes who invaded China in the 1600's, and controlled China until 1911. Even though the Manchus reigned over China, they are actually ethnically different (and indeed spoke a different language) from the majority Han people of China.

3 & 9 o'clock says 通寳 (tung-bao), meaning standard jewel. This signifies that the coin is a standard monetary instrument, minted during the reign of Emperor Xianfeng, to be accepted as legal tender throughout China.

I'm sorry to inform you that this has nothing to do with the I-Ching, but if you live in the U.S., i suggest you sue the pants off of the seller for misinformation :p

AEO, most of your definitions are correct, but each Chinese character often have numerous meanings. If you are not a native speaker, I'm actually quite impressed with your knowledge. :thumb:

yeah, I was thinking that the characters were supposed to be grouped together, just not sure which ones.
I'm literate in japanese, which is why I can guess chinese characters, but they're not all the same, which makes it hard.

I have a friend that got this tattooed on his neck.

牲口的妓女

When he went to Beijing for the Olympics recently, he had a lot of trouble with customs. Go figure. ;)




yeah, I was thinking that the characters were supposed to be grouped together, just not sure which ones.
I'm literate in japanese, which is why I can guess chinese characters, but they're not all the same, which makes it hard.

I have a friend that got this tattooed on his neck.

牲口的妓女

When he went to Beijing for the Olympics recently, he had a lot of trouble with customs. Go figure. ;)

Fido needed google translate but still...

Fido is amused

http://wilk4.com/humor/img/346_dog_laughing.jpg

IMHO your coin definitely looks like a cheap modern reproduction. I hope yopu didn't pay much for it, being told it's a really old coin. They're a dime a dozen here in Taiwan.

Japanese?? Anyone??

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1517/dsc00330pa.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/dsc00330pa.jpg/)

Japanese?? Anyone??

made in (can't read province or city name), Japan


I have a friend that got this tattooed on his neck.

牲口的妓女

When he went to Beijing for the Olympics recently, he had a lot of trouble with customs. Go figure. ;)

lol...
strike one: tattoo (associated with mafias)
strike two: what it says (f....o)
strike three: going during olympics

:roflmao:

^^^Thanx...Hmmm...Anybody else???

Fido just emailed his feline friends Takashi in Japan and Mei Li in China

They thought it was amusing too but not roll around funny like Fido suggested.

Takashi says he smirked
http://meowcheese.com/files/lolpics/2008/06/laughing-cat.jpg

Mei Li giggled
http://static.open.salon.com/files/1591-animal-white-cat-fence-laugh1257203553.gif

Japanese?? Anyone??



alright, it's calligraphy, and that makes it hard to read. looks like it's all in kanji (meaning characters of the Han people, i.e., Mandarin Chinese). as AEO pointed out, the three on the right says great Japanese Empire (大日本）. I have no idea what's on the left as it's in some kind of freestyle calligraphy


I have a friend that got this tattooed on his neck.

牲口的妓女

When he went to Beijing for the Olympics recently, he had a lot of trouble with customs. Go figure. ;)

:roflmao::roflmao:

was your friend trying to say "son of a female dog" or "harlot of livestocks." Either way, he should get a refund or sue the proprietor of the tattoo parlor. Btw, who else here can speak Mandarin Chinese?

edit: Tom, why is that b-i-t-c-h is a bad word (or w-h-o-r-e) for that matter? I'm pretty sure that George Carlin didn't have them as in the seven dirty words, and the Bard was known for his liberal use of both.

edit 2: just realized Tom does not live in Canada. Umm, how is it that i saw the words Canada somewhere near his name?:twitchy:

:roflmao::roflmao:

was your friend trying to say "son of a female dog" or "harlot of livestocks." Either way, he should get a refund or sue the proprietor of the tattoo parlor. Btw, who else here can speak Mandarin Chinese?

edit: Tom, why is that b-i-t-c-h is a bad word (or w-h-o-r-e) for that matter? I'm pretty sure that George Carlin didn't have them as in the seven dirty words, and the Bard was known for his liberal use of both.

edit 2: just realized Tom does not live in Canada. Umm, how is it that i saw the words Canada somewhere near his name?:twitchy:

He was trying to say he was a stud, and the symbols translate roughly to "Prostitute for farm animals". The Tat artist did his tat about a week before he closed up shop and moved out of town because he was being treated like garbage by the local redneck crowd. I guess he took a small measure of revenge. :p

He was trying to say he was a stud, and the symbols translate roughly to "Prostitute for farm animals". The Tat artist did his tat about a week before he closed up shop and moved out of town because he was being treated like garbage by the local redneck crowd. I guess he took a small measure of revenge. :p

At least now I know how to translate ModoVncere into Chinese.........................

alright, it's calligraphy, and that makes it hard to read. looks like it's all in kanji (meaning characters of the Han people, i.e., Mandarin Chinese). as AEO pointed out, the three on the right says great Japanese Empire (大日本）. I have no idea what's on the left as it's in some kind of freestyle calligraphy

Thanks...it's a beautiful ginger jar that I picked up. I seem to have stumped the crowd. I searched around a little when I first got it but couldn't come up with anything. If it says the great Japanese Empire than it's definately pretty old.

It doesn't actually say "Great Japanese Empire", which would be 大日本帝国 ("Dai Nippon Teikoku")... Just 大日本, or "Dai Nippon" - Great Japan. I spent 45 minutes or so combing through real and online dictionaries for the other part, but couldn't figure it out. As people have said, it's in calligraphy, which makes it really hard to read. I then cheated by going through this site (http://gotheborg.com/marks/index_jap_marks.htm) (which I can't believe exists), and I think I've found the answer: "Made by Matsumura" (松村造).

http://gotheborg.com/marks/bild/982.jpg
"982. Mark: Matsumura zo. Tentative date given raised enamels and yellow/pink enamels probably late Taisho into early Showa, or around 1920s."

http://gotheborg.com/marks/bild/1140.jpg
"Vases. Mark: Matsumura Zo or "Made by Matsumura". They are in a style often seen in Yokohama decorated pieces and have some Kutani influence, but Matsumura is a relatively common name. Tentative date given raised enamels and yellow/pink enamels probably late Taisho into early Showa, or around 1920s"

More from that site:
"It is generally accepted that marks that includes "Dai Nippon" in Japanese characters on the whole date to the Meiji (1868-1912) period, reflecting the greatly increased nationalism of that period. However, in stamped versions it also occurred on mass produced export wares well into the 1930s."

So there you go!

Goobers you are badass. And more Chinese than I am. Dang.

The internets solved that one, not me... at most, maybe my Google skillz are badass ;)

All right, I'm back...Sorry it took so long. I've had the flu from hell. I wanted to die. Glad I didn't. Thanks gbcb for filling me in!! I thought I'd post a pic of what all the fuss was about. Thanks again...

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5393/dsc00334se.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/dsc00334se.jpg/)

Thanks for the pic! It looks quite at home between the hardcover books and antique lamp.

Glad to be of help. It was a fun problem to solve...

That's beautiful...:eek:

deleted becuase my link might be offensive.

It's a family urn, Jsharr. Have some respect, geeze.

I thought it was a ginger jar. no offense intended. will delete link, post, whatever if needed.

Dude. I was joking. My bad. :o

Besides. The link only led to Google search.

deleted becuase my link might be offensive.


you are teasing us now. come on. what was it?

Okay, here is my original post

What do you use it for? (http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m149/bonghy/?action=view&current=SNL-YouputyourWeedinhere.flv)

:lol: Oh no wonder you thought I was serious!! I'm sorry! But that's hella funny *snicker*

yeah, we were both talking ashes I think, but not of the same sort................

I swear the timing..we probably couldnt' duplicate that if we wanted to, huh?

Thanks everyone...It was one of my better finds. The fun isn't over though...Chinese silk embroidery anyone?? I added the one with the flash to try and show just how rich these colors are in the flowers and the crane feathers. It's hopeless...it has to be seen to be appreciated. Again, thanks to everyone for helping me out.



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i think that one says "eat mor chikin"

松鶴遐齡 - sōng hè xiá líng - literally "pine crane old age." It's an idiom that I'm wasn't familiar with before looking it up, but appears to mean something along the lines of "live as long as the pines and cranes." In other words, it's an embroidery celebrating longevity (perhaps through eatin mor chikin).

You rock, gbcb...I'll give you a break for a while. That's great...Mrs. Cloud and myself living long like the pines and cranes...(happy sigh) :love:

I swear. Goobers is way more Chinese than I am.