Foo - Hyphenated last names...

Now that we've rolled through a generation or two since couples started hyphenating their last names in wedlock, it occured to me that children of those couples could be marrying partners with hyphenated last names also.

Is there any sort of strategy for selecting a last name for situations like Tom Jenkins-Tromble marrying Jennifer Smithfield-Wagner?

Or what if it's just Jennifer Smithfield?

As far as I know, I have not seen somebody with 3+ names hyphenated together.

Eh, none really. Just let them pick whichever names they like best (or even all of them) and let them do whatever the heck they want.

Men should not have hyphenated names. It's wrong.

Men should not have hyphenated names. It's wrong.

Why? If they like it, what's the problem?

it's a sign of indecision? :) I think I've seen 3 names put together, not four though. I thought it was usually done when the woman had a maiden name with some weight to it, either professionaly or socially, so she'd hyphenate. Then the kids would take the man's name? So says my guide to patriarchy 101.

I think the Spanish have had a handle on that for a long time now. Margaret Hilda (Roberts) Thatcher

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Married_and_maiden_names

Shrug. My wife has never changed her name. In fact, I prohibited her from changing it. It's her name; I wouldn't change mine, so why should she change hers?

a guy I used to work with got married and his wife didn't want his name. So she made him take hers first with no hyphen. They clearly thought they could rewrite the rules on this crap. Now they both have four separate names and they ain't spanish. Idiots.

Most of my fathers' sisters kept their maiden names. However, when it came to the kids, all but one gave the kids the father's name rather than a hyphenated name. Personally I think the hyphenated name thing is about as silly as being proud to be the 35th generation descendant of a member of British royalty who slept around, it has no real connection after a while. Also, why not give the boys the father's name and the girls the mother's name? It makes just as much sense as anything else.

I once had some neighbors where the kids got the mother's name as she wasn't married to the father and was going to raise the kids. At some point she became married, and hyphenated her name. The kids had the mother's maiden name, the mother had her maiden name hyphenated with the father's, and the father had his original name. Talk about confusing.

This is why the hyphenated names were stupid to begin with. Feminism be damned! ;)

If you feel attached to a name bump it down to a second middle name or something.

Taken to any sort of logical conclusion you gain on average one name every generation maybe, where does that put us 200 years from now? With attendance in schools taking 40 minutes to conduct.

Why? If they like it, what's the problem?It just is. I don't know why but it's like a guy driving a new Beetle. Wrong.

I didn't know that American hyphenated last names too... why?

Personally I think the hyphenated name thing is about as silly

You might feel differently if you were a female and expected to change your last name. Think about how it would feel to have an entirely different last name. A lot of women go through a bit of identity crisis after changing their last names.

You might feel differently if you were a female and expected to change your last name. Think about how it would feel to have an entirely different last name. A lot of women go through a bit of identity crisis after changing their last names.

perhaps...but one's identity should not be wrapped up in a name....if it were, my name would be ahole.

perhaps...but one's identity should not be wrapped up in a name....if it were, my name would be ahole.We're related!!

I once had some neighbors where the kids got the mother's name as she wasn't married to the father and was going to raise the kids. At some point she became married, and hyphenated her name. The kids had the mother's maiden name, the mother had her maiden name hyphenated with the father's, and the father had his original name. Talk about confusing.
There is nothing confusing about this. It is right. If a woman has a child, she does not have to give the fathers last name. She gives the kid hers. She gets married and takes on the mans name so she is hyphenated. Man keeps his name.
I am not married but to have a hyphenated name has a few benefits such as extra sweepstakes entries, several checking accounts and name identity is still kept as before the marriage (drivers license, passport, etc).

So don't change your last name, and certainly don't leave your kids with a hyphenated last name. Personally, whenever I get married I would prefer that my future wife keep her last name than hyphenate it if she doesn't want mine.

I think x136's family has it right. His parents x77 and x59 would agree with me I bet.

.... is stupid as hell.

There is nothing confusing about this. It is right. If a woman has a child, she does not have to give the fathers last name. She gives the kid hers. She gets married and takes on the mans name so she is hyphenated. Man keeps his name.
I am not married but to have a hyphenated name has a few benefits such as extra sweepstakes entries, several checking accounts and name identity is still kept as before the marriage (drivers license, passport, etc).

I'm not so sure about your claimed benefits. The extra sweepstakes entries are clearly against the sweepstakes rules (multiple entries), and all I need to do at my bank to get a second checking account in my same name is to say please.

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[QUOTE=rumrunn6;10466945]I think the Spanish have had a handle on that for a long time now.

No doubt...whew.

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ok..ARE so stupid. I'm not thinking straight. I'm too dehydrated.

ok..ARE so stupid. I'm not thinking straight. I'm too dehydrated.

can I interest you in a pint?

modo's sloppy seconds? i don't think so.

So if the wife keeps her maiden name, the husband keeps his name, then what name do the kids use?

So if the wife keeps her maiden name, the husband keeps his name, then what name do the kids use?

easy. call the boy "boy" and the girl ... you guess

modo's sloppy seconds? i don't think so.

seconds? Even the firsts are sloppy when I'm involved.

If a woman is so independent that she doesn't want her potential husband's last name, why is she getting married? Live 'in sin' if you want to keep your name. If you have a child out of wedlock, discuss it and work it out.

Hyphenated last names in America are trifling; the Brits are the only ones I'm aware of that ever did that anyway. Pretentious is the word.

So if the wife keeps her maiden name, the husband keeps his name, then what name do the kids use?

This is what we're doing. The kids will get his last name.

So if the wife keeps her maiden name, the husband keeps his name, then what name do the kids use?Whatever name they want. It's nobody else's business.

Shrug. My wife has never changed her name. In fact, I prohibited her from changing it. It's her name; I wouldn't change mine, so why should she change hers?

I'm with you on this one.

If a woman is so independent that she doesn't want her potential husband's last name, why is she getting married? Live 'in sin' if you want to keep your name.

Are you serious? So, the only reason a woman should want to get married is so that she can be dependent on her husband? Why, in your opinion, should a woman take her husband's last name? What if they don't plan on having kids?

...yeah! and what was she doing out of the kitchen???!!!!

oh dear. i shouldnt have said that. please don't kill me.

it works like this: Ann Jones-Smith marries Bob Adam-Thomas, Ann would become Ann Jones-Smith-Thomas, and Bob would remain Bob Adam-Thomas. Thier children would be (Child's 1st name) Smith-Thomas. You add the 2nd part of the hyphenated names together.

My brother & his ex did this to their kids because she was the last of her family name.

The BIG question is what are the initials? hypenated, 1st part or 2nd part?

Do any of you people realize how much of a royal PAIN IN THE BUTTHOLE it is to change ones last name? Who gives a flip if a woman wants to keep her last name? It doesn't mean she doesn't respect or love her husband. I can't really even see a reason that it is necessary for someone to change their name when they get married. It's not as if we can't keep track of who is related and who isn't if they don't.

Maybe 200 years ago, people needed to change names to keep heredity and genetics in order, but not today when everyone has 10 different serial numbers assigned to them...

I say it's up to the parties involved. My wife chose to take my last name when we married. She dropped her middle name, and made her maiden name her new middle name, so she went from First Middle Maiden to First Maiden MyLast. The only problem that arose from this was multiple credit cards and a box of checks were stolen out of the mail.

Since we're not having kids, what last name they would use is not an issue.

My sister-in-law kept her maiden name when she married my brother. Since she was already established in her field, it made sense to do so. Their daughter has my brother's last name.

My dad's 3rd wife kept her maiden name when they got married. It made her life easier when they divorced 7 years later. When she then remarried, she took her new husband's last name. They'll be celebrating their 25th anniversary this September.

As for the original question, what happens when a hyphenated last name man marries a hyphenated last name woman? I say they should hyphenate again.

I personally think we (and by "we" I mean the English-speaking world) should adopt the Spanish system. I doubt that will happen so, with a nod to tradition, everyone should take and keep his or her father's name. Not entirely fair, I grant you, but simple and consistent.

If a woman is so independent that she doesn't want her potential husband's last name, why is she getting married? Live 'in sin' if you want to keep your name. If you have a child out of wedlock, discuss it and work it out.

Hyphenated last names in America are trifling; the Brits are the only ones I'm aware of that ever did that anyway. Pretentious is the word.

In my wifes case it was becaseu she had been married before and had children from that marriage. They had her first husbands last name and she wanted a tie in name to continue with her children. I have no problem with that.

If a woman is so independent that she doesn't want her potential husband's last name, why is she getting married? Live 'in sin' if you want to keep your name. If you have a child out of wedlock, discuss it and work it out.

Hyphenated last names in America are trifling; the Brits are the only ones I'm aware of that ever did that anyway. Pretentious is the word.

Thanks, Arch.

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The rest o' youse: Stifle it!

My lady and I were recently discussing the possibility of creating a brand new surname from a portmanteau of both of our last names. In all likelihood neither of us will change names, but it was a fun idea. If just one of us were to change their name, it'd probably be me because her name is way cooler.

Loosing her father's last name was considered an insult by all my hispanic ex's. Personally, I don't see the big deal. I have a little girl and I don't care if she ever changes her name to Ms Whatchitmacallit. She will always be daddy's girl, regardless of her legal name.

My lady and I were recently discussing the possibility of creating a brand new surname from a portmanteau of both of our last names. In all likelihood neither of us will change names, but it was a fun idea. If just one of us were to change their name, it'd probably be me because her name is way cooler.

Strangely apropo, but if my wife and I did this, my last name would be Shardin.

I think the Spanish have had a handle on that for a long time now.

pretty much.


Shrug. My wife has never changed her name. In fact, I prohibited her from changing it. It's her name; I wouldn't change mine, so why should she change hers?

my sister didn't (brother in law has an odd sounding name).

my sister in law did (her maiden name is kind of dopey).

in the netherlands it's not very common.


So if the wife keeps her maiden name, the husband keeps his name, then what name do the kids use?

father's.


If a woman is so independent that she doesn't want her potential husband's last name, why is she getting married? Live 'in sin' if you want to keep your name. If you have a child out of wedlock, discuss it and work it out.

Hyphenated last names in America are trifling; the Brits are the only ones I'm aware of that ever did that anyway. Pretentious is the word.

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My lady and I were recently discussing the possibility of creating a brand new surname from a portmanteau of both of our last names. In all likelihood neither of us will change names, but it was a fun idea. If just one of us were to change their name, it'd probably be me because her name is way cooler.

Sweetcakes?

As far as I know, I have not seen somebody with 3+ names hyphenated together.

It gets worse than that, according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-barrelled_name) anyway:


A few upper-class families (e.g. Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe; Cave-Browne-Cave; Elliot-Murray-Kynynmound; Heathcote-Drummond-Willoughby; Vane-Tempest-Stewart) have "triple-barrelled" surnames (sometimes created when one spouse has a double-barrelled name and the other has a single surname). Nowadays, such names are almost always abbreviated in everyday use to a single or double-barrelled version. There are even a few "quadruple-barrelled" surnames (e.g. Montagu-Stuart-Wortley-Mackenzie, Hepburn-Stuart-Forbes-Trefusis, Stirling-Home-Drummond-Moray; Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax or the French/English surname Taylor-Jendernai-Eirron de Mountstuart, which is the family name for the Marquis de la Eirron) and the surname of the extinct family of the Dukes of Buckingham and Chandos was the quintuple-barrelled Temple-Nugent-Brydges-Chandos-Grenville. Captain Leone Sextus Denys Oswolf Fraudatifilius Tollemache-Tollemache de Orellana Plantagenet Tollemache-Tollemache is sometimes quoted as the man with the most ever "barrels" in his surname (six), but in fact all but the last two of these (Tollemache-Tollemache) were forenames.

Happily, Leone Sextus Denys Oswolf Fraudatifilius Tollemache-Tollemache de Orellana Plantagenet Tollemache-Tollemache has his own entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leone_Sextus_Denys_Oswolf_Fraudatifilius_Tollemache-Tollemache_de_Orellana_Plantagenet_Tollemache-Tollemache), too. If I didn't know he was a historical figure, I would have assumed he was a product of one of jsharr's fever dreams.

I'm sticking with Bob VanBob O'bob McBob Bobby. It seems to fit me well.

Why? If they like it, what's the problem?

They come off as being either indecisive or pretentious.
The Spanish method, on the other hand... retains some history without conveying the connotation of the upturned nose.