Commuting - Four older bikeriders killed in Belgium 18.03.10

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badmother
03-18-10, 05:20 PM
Looks like they were touring, or at least out on some sort of groupride. A group of 10 older riders was hit from behind by a tractor. The farmer said he could not see them becouse of sun in his eyes, but in the pictures I found on another webside the tractor has got a front "fork" in front of the front window, blocking the wiew. You can see the tractor if you click the link for the TV news to the right. Apart from the four dead two are injured and one is badly injured. I hope you can find a program to transelate this, I could not find it on BBC. Wery sad.

http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/regio/limburg/100318_Bree

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00793/traktor_793604i.jpg


vrkelley
03-18-10, 05:38 PM
Wow. Sorry to hear that.

jefferee
03-18-10, 05:56 PM
Looks like the loader bucket is up in the air in the video. However, NOBODY would drive down the road with the bucket in that position (first of all, because you can't see, and secondly because you don't want to needlessly raise the center of gravity and risk a rollover when going over bumpy terrain). I imagine it must have been raised after the collision in an attempt to free somebody trapped underneath.

When the sun is low in the sky, cyclists can easily get lost in the glare, especially when windshields are scratched or dirty. Be careful out there, folks.


badmother
03-18-10, 06:06 PM
Looks like the loader bucket is up in the air in the video. However, NOBODY would drive down the road with the bucket in that position (first of all, because you can't see, and secondly because you don't want to needlessly raise the center of gravity and risk a rollover when going over bumpy terrain). I imagine it must have been raised after the collision in an attempt to free somebody trapped underneath.

When the sun is low in the sky, cyclists can easily get lost in the glare, especially when windshields are scratched or dirty. Be careful out there, folks.

I know what you are saying, but it is done all the time. Done it myself, several times. Kept lower you can hit cars and pedestrains with it. Not sure if you are allowed to drive on a public road with it (empty) low around here. He should have lifted it more when driving so he could look under it. They are going to "reconstruct" the accident tomorrow, so I guess we`ll find out then.

irclean
03-18-10, 06:36 PM
...I hope you can find a program to transelate this, I could not find it on BBC. Wery sad.

Actually, at the top of the page there is a button to translate the page to English labeled "EN".

electrik
03-18-10, 07:46 PM
One of my closest calls was with a person driving into the setting sun without sunglasses.

If you can't see what is ahead, stop. I hope the Belgium police can come to the conclusion that what this man did was reckless, just like the man who almost killed me by simply flooring it when he could not see anything.

Effective sunglasses cost $10 anybody would have bought this farmer a pair in exchange for their lives.

Keep a few pairs around in your car

TFS Jake
03-18-10, 07:52 PM
One of my closest calls was with a person driving into the setting sun without sunglasses.

If you can't see what is ahead, stop. I hope the Belgium police can come to the conclusion that what this man did was reckless, just like the man who almost killed me by simply flooring it when he could not see anything.

Effective sunglasses cost $10 anybody would have bought this farmer a pair in exchange for their lives.

Keep a few pairs around in your car

Sunglasses don't help me, or anyone I know. If the sun is in your eyes, it's in your eyes. I use the visor 10x more than I use sunglasses.

To the guy that said it shouldn't be raised, I feel as if it's at a fine height. Any lower and you ram cars. Any higher and your COM is really high. I'm pretty sure you can see people in front of you with that height.

electrik
03-18-10, 08:00 PM
Sunglasses don't help me, or anyone I know. If the sun is in your eyes, it's in your eyes. I use the visor 10x more than I use sunglasses.

To the guy that said it shouldn't be raised, I feel as if it's at a fine height. Any lower and you ram cars. Any higher and your COM is really high. I'm pretty sure you can see people in front of you with that height.

Uh, ok... are you sure you don't want to rephrase that bit about sunglasses not helping?

TFS Jake
03-18-10, 08:58 PM
Uh, ok... are you sure you don't want to rephrase that bit about sunglasses not helping?

I don't think so...

Timber_8
03-19-10, 03:45 AM
That is a round bale clamp on the loader. I own a tractor and grew up on a farm and I can tell you that you always drive with the loader as low as possible. That tractor pictured can probably move at 45 mph. It is a very sad story but more than likely just an accident. If you in a farming community there is always AG equipment in the road. I have even seen Combines in the road. AG equipment is the most dangerous stuff to be around regardless of where it is. It is just sad when this happens

AdamDZ
03-19-10, 05:36 AM
Very sad story indeed. The worst bike related accident I ever heard about: 4 cyclists killed, oh my.