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...jeff
08-24-04, 10:18 AM
With all the negative performancebike.com feedback I thought I'd share my experience with velowear.com (http://www.velowear.com)

I purchased their 6oz. training shorts (on sale for $26.95) last wednesday, got tracking email the next morning and recieved package Monday morning.

They included a postage paid priority mail return envelope for exchanges or exchanges, 3 velor stickers and 3 tootsie pops! I'm really impressed with the product... great feel with a large chafe free chamois. 100% made in the US of A too!

These guys deserve your business! :D


cyclingute
08-24-04, 10:21 AM
I've never used Voler products, but have heard nothing but good things about them. Glad to see the trend continue.

Big R
08-24-04, 10:53 AM
You beat me to the punch on this one....

I've bought a few things from velowear.com recently, and LOVE them as a company. They really couldn't be any easier to deal with

On a slightly more negative shopping experience...I also just purchased a Nike DryFit jersey, and I'm sorry to say that I love that as well. I'm no fan of Nike, but that material is the best!


Tennessee
08-24-04, 11:25 AM
Why aren't you a fan of Nike? Just wondering.

2Rodies
08-24-04, 11:43 AM
Why aren't you a fan of Nike? Just wondering.

Because they represent the worst in corporate America. Nike was exploiting workers in 4th world nations before it became vogue for every corp to do it. For the most part their shoes suck. I have bought two pair of Nike shoes in my life one was a size 8.5 the other 12. I've bought about 15 pair of New Balance and every single pair is the same size, a 10. Nike has absolutely no quality control but I guess when you are paying 6 year olds 10 cents a day you can't expect to much.


As for Velowear I have to say, along with Oakley, they have some of the best customer service I've ever delt with. I'm not a huge fan of the their shorts, their chamios and I don't get along, but the quality v $$$ is right up there.

MelloBoy
08-24-04, 11:49 AM
Because they represent the worst in corporate America. Nike was exploiting workers in 4th world nations before it became vogue for every corp to do it. For the most part their shoes suck. I have bought two pair of Nike shoes in my life one was a size 8.5 the other 12. I've bought about 15 pair of New Balance and every single pair is the same size, a 10. Nike has absolutely no quality control but I guess when you are paying 6 year olds 10 cents a day you can't expect to much.


As for Velowear I have to say, along with Oakley, they have some of the best customer service I've ever delt with. I'm not a huge fan of the their shorts, their chamios and I don't get along, but the quality v $$$ is right up there.

nike cycling shoes are made in italy, not china i believe :) i don't think in italy, 6 year olds at 10 cents a day is allowed :P

2Rodies
08-24-04, 12:03 PM
nike cycling shoes are made in italy, not china i believe :) i don't think in italy, 6 year olds at 10 cents a day is allowed :P


What about the rest of the company? I wasn't reffering to just the cycling part of the company which is just a drop in bucket for Nike. The question was why don't you like Nike, not why don't you like Nike's cycling division.

john_ford
08-24-04, 12:09 PM
Voler does have good service and descent quality but read the fine print on the return instructions. The envelope is post paid but they will deduct the cost of the postage from the refund you receive.

dragracer
08-24-04, 12:26 PM
I have to agree that velowear.com has much better and faster service than Performancebike.....

...but.....

I'm not at all sold on the quality of their stuff....at least their shorts. I also ordered a pair of their cheaper shorts a while back and I was not real wild about the quality. The stitching was very raggedy looking and there are no grippers on the legs at all so I'm constantly tugging them back down. The "cantara" chamois is pretty nice, but the quality in the rest of the shorts is pretty low. I just bought another pair of of shorts but this time from Performance. I paid about $10 more for this second pair. The difference in quality is like night and day between the two garments. The fabric is much nicer looking and heavier, the leg grippers work great, and they just seem to have an overall better fit. Maybe it's just because I have skinny "bird" legs but I REALLY lilke the Performance shorts much better. :D

I'll definately order another pair from Performance and wait the extra 2 weeks before I'll order the lesser quality shorts from velowear again. The difference in quality makes up more than the $10 difference in price...IMO. That is not to say that the higher-end Voler shorts are not as good as the Performance shorts and that will still be an option. Just have to see what they have when the time comes to order again.

...jeff
08-24-04, 12:36 PM
hmmm dragracer, that can't be the same pair I just picked up.. these have excellent stitching with leg grippers emblazoned with the velor logo.

dragracer
08-24-04, 12:49 PM
hmmm dragracer, that can't be the same pair I just picked up.. these have excellent stitching with leg grippers emblazoned with the velor logo.

I must have ordered the cheapest junk they had...LOL. These shorts I got are really shabby looking. I think they were called the "training" short....or something like that. Think it may have been these right here. (http://www.velowear.com/store/prodinfo.asp?number=111030&variation=&aitem=6&mitem=28) I'd suggest NOT ordering these. :o

...jeff
08-24-04, 01:33 PM
That's the pair I got! check the specs... yours didn't have leg grippers??!

zensuit
08-24-04, 01:52 PM
Because they represent the worst in corporate America. Nike was exploiting workers in 4th world nations before it became vogue for every corp to do it. For the most part their shoes suck. I have bought two pair of Nike shoes in my life one was a size 8.5 the other 12. I've bought about 15 pair of New Balance and every single pair is the same size, a 10. Nike has absolutely no quality control but I guess when you are paying 6 year olds 10 cents a day you can't expect to much.


As for Velowear I have to say, along with Oakley, they have some of the best customer service I've ever delt with. I'm not a huge fan of the their shorts, their chamios and I don't get along, but the quality v $$$ is right up there.

Absolutely

RonH
08-24-04, 02:41 PM
Over the past 15 months I've bought 2 pairs of shorts, 5 pairs of bibs, arm warmers, leg warmers, shoe covers, and 4 jerseys from them. Very satisfied. :)

dragracer
08-24-04, 03:29 PM
That's the pair I got! check the specs... yours didn't have leg grippers??!

Nope! Damn it, I musta got ripped off!! :(

If I can remember, I'll take a pic and post it. The seams are just totally nasty. :rolleyes:

bac
08-24-04, 03:35 PM
Because they represent the worst in corporate America. Nike was exploiting workers in 4th world nations before it became vogue for every corp to do it. For the most part their shoes suck. I have bought two pair of Nike shoes in my life one was a size 8.5 the other 12. I've bought about 15 pair of New Balance and every single pair is the same size, a 10. Nike has absolutely no quality control but I guess when you are paying 6 year olds 10 cents a day you can't expect to much.


As for Velowear I have to say, along with Oakley, they have some of the best customer service I've ever delt with. I'm not a huge fan of the their shorts, their chamios and I don't get along, but the quality v $$$ is right up there.

Your issue is really with our government - not NIKE. They could stop NIKE, and other companies that take advantage of mankind in a real global sense. However, that's for the political forum ... I'll move on.

I bought one pair of bibs from velowear.com over a year ago, and I'm satisfied that I got a good value. Are they as nice as some of the top-dollar stuff - no. Are they a good bib @ a great price - yup! Would I buy again - yup! :)

2Rodies
08-24-04, 04:18 PM
Your issue is really with our government - not NIKE. They could stop NIKE, and other companies that take advantage of mankind in a real global sense. However, that's for the political forum ... I'll move on.

I bought one pair of bibs from velowear.com over a year ago, and I'm satisfied that I got a good value. Are they as nice as some of the top-dollar stuff - no. Are they a good bib @ a great price - yup! Would I buy again - yup! :)

Yes they could stop Nike but that doesn't lessen the culpability of Nike nor it's responsibility to "just do" the right thing. Believe me Nike has been doing this virtually since it came into existance. This isn't the post-NAFTA rush to ship all production off shore. Nike was doing this in the '80's.

Pedal Wench
08-24-04, 06:13 PM
Hey - not fair! I ordered a jersey, received it promptly, but I didn't get stickers and only got two Tootsie Rolls!





They included a postage paid priority mail return envelope for returns or exchanges, 3 velor stickers and 3 tootsie pops! I'm really impressed with the product... great feel with a large chafe free chamois. 100% made in the US of A too!

These guys deserve your business! :D

Big R
08-25-04, 05:46 AM
I think the Nike question was directed to me....

FWIW...I'm not so high-minded. (1) I've just never been comfortable in their shoes, and (2) I tend to favor the underdog...Nike's just such a behemoth, that there are other companies I'd rather support. Granted this is perhaps totally irrational. I buy mostly Budweiser products (grew up in St. Louis though, so I have a legit bias). But I'd be very DIS-inclined to buy a bike from Trek solely b/c everyone has one....not saying this makes sense.

RonH
08-25-04, 05:52 AM
Hey - not fair! I ordered a jersey, received it promptly, but I didn't get stickers and only got two Tootsie Rolls!
When we all get together for the Silver Comet ride I'll bring you one of the stickers I got with an order. ;)

...jeff
08-25-04, 07:02 AM
No shame in that Big R, I rather support and buy something that's still made in the USA.

After skimming their website, the free exchange policy envelope isn't extended to returns... which is completely understandable.

demoncyclist
08-25-04, 10:24 AM
My team gets its jerseys from Voler. Last year we got the Tie Dye jerseys, and one of the guys I ride with did the sublimation of our logos. This year we went with a full custom jersey. Got a great price, and the service from their production staff has been great.

Pedal Wench
08-25-04, 12:20 PM
When we all get together for the Silver Comet ride I'll bring you one of the stickers I got with an order. ;)

Can't help but notice that you're not offering to share the extra Tootsie Roll! :rolleyes:

blueorder
08-25-04, 01:01 PM
All this talk of Voler had me thinking so much I had to go to their website and order a jersey just to see how they are...

cyclingshane73
08-25-04, 01:29 PM
I have Kona team Voleur jersey and have no complaints. It fits nice and the material is light and comfortable. Great. All the traffic you guys have been giving the site has made them close shop. Hopefully it will be back up soon.

jwm
08-25-04, 05:55 PM
Another really good place to do business with is excelsports.com, IMHO. Fast shipping, easy to deal with.As for the refund deducting postage policy of velowear.com mentioned by another poster, I think most companies expect the customer to pay for the return shipping; the fact that they provide the label makes it that much more convenient for the customer, which is a great thing.

Kris Flatlander
08-25-04, 06:16 PM
and 3 tootsie pops!

you got tootsie pops! Just reading that made me scrounge around my house only to find one tootsie pop which was slightly dusty and very hard, but it satisfied my tootsie pop craving! Damn U!

Big R
08-26-04, 08:13 AM
Tootsie POPS?? No Way! That's way too frivolous....they give out Tootsie ROLLS!

...jeff
08-26-04, 01:54 PM
Believe It.

Phatman
08-26-04, 04:42 PM
Another really good place to do business with is excelsports.com, IMHO. Fast shipping, easy to deal with.

amen to that. I got my wheels built and shipped in three days.

rustynail02
08-26-04, 11:36 PM
If I can read I believe this post was about the quality of Velo Gear garments.I don't care for Nike myself .But lets talk about the subject at hand.I think Velo shorts and jersey's are sa good as anything out there.I've no problems at all,and plan to get all my cycle wear from them.

Freestyle
08-27-04, 04:44 AM
I agree on nike. My son is a tennis pro and a rep came into talk to him and set-up a sponser deal. So when he is teaching tennis on the court,he is always in the latest nike shoes, clothes, hat, and rackett ect. to the tune of ten thousand dollars a year. He sales a lot of nike product each year. At the end of the year he gets a 1099 from nike for his 10 grand, and not a cent on comission from nike. I think that sucks. When you sponser , a product for advertising, and sales it is not wages. Do you agree?

otoman
08-27-04, 09:09 AM
I have two Voler Echelon Race Jerseys - love them. The tailored fit is great and I like the extra long zipper. I have had a little trouble finding race cut jerseys that don't have Euro trade team logos emblazoned all over them, but these fit the bill perfectly.
I also have two pairs of their Team Cycling Shorts (not the 6 oz. "training" shorts) and I think they are great too - good gripper on the legs, very comfortable chamois and the fabric feels very supportive. Overall, great value.

Phatman
08-27-04, 09:20 AM
I think that the nike dri-fit fabric is one of the best in the business. I come back drier then in any of my other jerseys. however, I dont really like the fit of the nike jerseys that i have, they are too loose, and the shoulders are also too loose, the elastic at the bottom of the sleeve causes the sleeve to billow out like the shoulders on those dresses from the early 1990s. you know what I'm talking about.

2Rodies
08-27-04, 09:20 AM
I've got a pair of the VOLER Titano Team Bib Short in royal blue size large that have been worn once. If anyone is interested they can be yours for $30.00 + shipping.

AeroDog
08-27-04, 10:28 AM
I've never used Voler products, but have heard nothing but good things about them. Glad to see the trend continue.

I always thought Voler was a strange name for a company since voler means "to steal" in French. It also means "to go fast or to fly" -- I suppose that's what they had in mind :D

As far as Nike being the root of all evil, is it exploitation when Nike goes into a third world country and provides jobs for people who otherwise wouldn't have a job even if the pay is low by our standards? These so-called exploiters typically pay higher wages than other companies in the region. And, it's sure as hell not the business of our government

2Rodies
08-27-04, 11:02 AM
I always thought Voler was a strange name for a company since voler means "to steal" in French. It also means "to go fast or to fly" -- I suppose that's what they had in mind :D

As far as Nike being the root of all evil, is it exploitation when Nike goes into a third world country and provides jobs for people who otherwise wouldn't have a job even if the pay is low by our standards? These so-called exploiters typically pay higher wages than other companies in the region. And, it's sure as hell not the business of our government


Gee your right Nike is the greatest co on the planet. I hadn't realized that when an American co uses 6 year olds and works them 12 hours a day for 10 cents an hour it moves them into Saint hood. Thank you for clarafying that. Who give a fk if the "other" companies in the region exploit their workers it doesn't give Nike the right to do it. Here is what really piss's me off about supporters of the WTO and NAFTA. They rationalize US co doing business of shore by saying this is the only way for 3rd and 4th world countries to get caught up with the US and Europe. All the while these US co are doing the exact same thing that the locals are doing. Paying pennies on the dollar compared to US standards. I don't belive for one minute that a worker in Viet Nam should be paid the same as worker in the US, the cost of living isn't the same. But I do however believe that if co like Nike are going to have everthing made in south east Asia they have a responsobility to pay them a living wage. BTW untill Nike was outed about this in the mid-90's they were paying no more than the local companies.