Training & Nutrition - Low Carb Eaters/Dieters

Those of you that eat a low carb diet, what is your typical day of meals like?

This is everything I eat in a week, you can pretty much guess what's for breakfast, lunch, dinner, snack, and after workout. I don't believe in low carb diets (not healthy), just eat healthy and try to be well balanced...i do know i need a little more balance in my meals though.

Egg, Lunch Meat, Spinach, Whole Grain Bread, Cheese, Milk, Oatmeal, Beans, Salmon, Sardines, Apple, Grapefruit, Whey Protein Shake

Diet Consists of about 65% fruits/vegtables 20% meat and 15% whole grains


Breakfast

1 instant oatmeal and as many fruits as I need to feel ready to work out

Lunch

Salad with vegetables and 1- 80 cal whole wheat pita

Dinner

slices of turkey or roast beef or roasted chicken. with green beans, arthichokces, etc. followed by dried fruit.

Snack

Nuts of all types (very sparingly) more fruit

none of those are close to a low carb diet

/\ Agreed.
The thing with carbs: If you want that altered metabolic state in which carbs are no longer the dominant source of energy, you gotta get rid of them. None of this, "Oh, just half a cup of oatmeal," half-assery.
Why you would ever want this is beyond my understanding, when you can simply
EAT LESS
MOVE MORE.

Edit: Heres an example of how I eat

Morning: Coffee, a fruit or two.
Lunch: Salad
Dinner: Huge salad, cooked broccoli and carrots, whatever protein I want with whatever fat I want with whatever carbs I want in whatever quantity I want.
Preworkout (if needed): Couple egg whites topped with a sliced banana and cinnamon
Post workout (if needed): Milk/yogurt/egg whites with some fruit, usually a banana.

breakfast:
scrambled egg sandwich - then I swim 1500 meters or do an hour of intense weight training. the toast is a minor concern due to the training

after training snack:
1 or 2 wakeup wraps from Dunkin Donuts, no cheese or bacon

morning snack:
granola bar

pre lunchtime run snack:
banana - then a 2 mile run

after run lunch:
McDonalds Southwest salad with grilled chicken, plus 1 crispy snack wrap

afternoon snack:
apple or orange

evening snack before driving home for dinner:
instant oatmeal

dinner:
2 ground turkey patties pan drilled with onions; peppers and mushrooms

evening snack:
Perdue breaded and baked chicken tenderloin toasted in the toaster overn

I think the OP wants to know whats a good days worth of high protein, low carb. I tried it and it didnt do anything but make me feel bleh..but anyhow, here you go....

Breakfast, 3 turkey sausage links.
snack cheese string.
lunch grilled chicken and salad, no dressing.
Snack, cheese string
Supper, 5 eggwhites, bologna, or turkey bacon.

You will feel like crap at bedtime but you will be ultra slim and deflated the next morning.

I think the OP wants to know whats a good days worth of high protein, low carb. I tried it and it didnt do anything but make me feel bleh..but anyhow, here you go.....

100% agree. I think that some body types/metabolisms can cope with it ok, but when I tried it I was lethargic and weak after a couple of days. Felt awful. I had zero motivation to ride the bike, and when I did I went like crap. I seem to lean down better just watching portions and eating high carb whilst putting the miles in.

oh yeah - if you're talking about a quick slim down over a 30 day period, then yeah tuna and carrots, etc is a good way to trim inches fast but also a good way not to have energy to exercise except for walking. it's a good way to jump start you and get you feeling good (slimmer) quickly but then when you start eating you better start exercising. it can be a tricky transition.

he said low carb not no carb, my example was a very practical example for an active person, if you want less carbs... good luck! you "carbs=satan" die hards are hilarious acting as if a serving of oatmeal is a bad thing. I would not be surprised to see you collapse of malnutrition or get a heart attack like old man Atkins himself.

What you are doing isn't low carb, though. No one here is saying what you are doing is bad, it's just not low carb.

It's sad that there are so many people that believe they are eating a low-carb diet and really have no idea how to define it (or they don't understand what a "carb" is, or what foods have them.)

I would define a low-carb diet as a diet that includes less than 30 grams of carbohydrate per day. I think this is pretty close to the Atkin's diet.

Oatmeal is not low carb - 100 grams of Oats include 67 grams of carbs (your allotment for more than two days)

1 slice of bread typically has 20-30 grams of carbs... a slice of toast in the morning, you're done with carbs for the day.

Fruit... is not low carb.

Carrots... are not low carb.

This guy, Charles Washington, is the ultimate low-carb athlete. He lives a "zero carb" lifestyle. He has phenomenal results. And... he participates in endurance events. He has reprogrammed his body to use fat for energy and not carbs.

http://blog.zeroinginonhealth.com/about/

I've done quite a lot of research on the effects of carbohydrates and insulin. I can't say that there is much benefit nutritionally from the "blood sugar/insulin cycle" that is the result of a diet that includes anything more than the minimum of 30 grams of carbs per day. I've heard about "healthy" eating habits for years. All of us have... and we have a rate of diabetes that is higher than it has ever been (I'm included in the numbers.)

It might be time to actually question what are "healthy eating habits."

Typical foods consumed on a low carb diet:

eggs, cheese, fish, poultry, beef, broccoli, green beans, lettuce,

avoided on a low carb diet:

pretty much eveything else that was not mentioned above. No milk, no fruit, no bread, no pasta, almost all sauces, anything with refined sugar or corn syrup, no cereals, no juices, no legumes. It sounds drastic... it is - so is diabetes and heart disease.

You can get to the 30 g of carbohydrates by eating low-carb vegetables such as the broccoli and green beans.

breakfast:
scrambled egg sandwich - then I swim 1500 meters or do an hour of intense weight training. the toast is a minor concern due to the training

after training snack:
1 or 2 wakeup wraps from Dunkin Donuts, no cheese or bacon

morning snack:
granola bar

pre lunchtime run snack:
banana - then a 2 mile run

after run lunch:
McDonalds Southwest salad with grilled chicken, plus 1 crispy snack wrap

afternoon snack:
apple or orange

evening snack before driving home for dinner:
instant oatmeal

dinner:
2 ground turkey patties pan drilled with onions; peppers and mushrooms

evening snack:
Perdue breaded and baked chicken tenderloin toasted in the toaster overn

What you have here, is a low-fat diet. It is not a low-carb diet.

I think the OP wants to know whats a good days worth of high protein, low carb. I tried it and it didnt do anything but make me feel bleh..but anyhow, here you go....


This is the thing that everyone keeps missing about low carb if they haven't read the books. You do NOT replace carbs with protein in low carb. You replace it with fat. Protein has roughly equal usefulness in both fat burning and carb burning metabolic modes. If you go low carb high protein and don't get enough fat you'll feel like dirt because at that point the only thing your body has to burn is protein (which it doesn't like doing) and your own fat. Atkins phase one calls for something like 65% of your daily calories coming from fat.

Granted I've only been doing this a few days now, but I wake up easier, don't experience the 2:30pm post lunch energy drop that I used to feel, and my endurance/ability to go to the gym is pretty much the same as its always been.

This is the thing that everyone keeps missing about low carb if they haven't read the books. You do NOT replace carbs with protein in low carb. You replace it with fat. Protein has roughly equal usefulness in both fat burning and carb burning metabolic modes. If you go low carb high protein and don't get enough fat you'll feel like dirt because at that point the only thing your body has to burn is protein (which it doesn't like doing) and your own fat. Atkins phase one calls for something like 65% of your daily calories coming from fat.

Granted I've only been doing this a few days now, but I wake up easier, don't experience the 2:30pm post lunch energy drop that I used to feel, and my endurance/ability to go to the gym is pretty much the same as its always been.

Check out books by Gary Taubes.

Also, not all carbs are equal. The main ones I avoid are easily digestible carbs -- sugar, sryups, non whole-grain bread, white pasta, polished rice, potatoes, etc.

/\ Agreed.
The thing with carbs: If you want that altered metabolic state in which carbs are no longer the dominant source of energy, you gotta get rid of them. None of this, "Oh, just half a cup of oatmeal," half-assery.
Why you would ever want this is beyond my understanding, when you can simply
EAT LESS
MOVE MORE.

Edit: Heres an example of how I eat

Morning: Coffee, a fruit or two.
Lunch: Salad
Dinner: Huge salad, cooked broccoli and carrots, whatever protein I want with whatever fat I want with whatever carbs I want in whatever quantity I want.
Preworkout (if needed): Couple egg whites topped with a sliced banana and cinnamon
Post workout (if needed): Milk/yogurt/egg whites with some fruit, usually a banana.

3 fruits a day? Those are nearly pure carbohydrate (simple ones at that), you do realize that, right? Much more than a half cup of oatmeal.

Look at the meal plans in the South Beach Diet book. It worked like a charm for me to lose the weight back in '05. I lost 70 lb. in 6 months, from 238 lb. to 168 (I'm 6'-2") unfortunately it worked too well and I purposely tried to put a few pounds back on. Then I kept going.

The tough part about a low carb diet like SBD is that if you're riding, you need some carb energy. The SBD (and other low carb plans) have a 2-3 week period at the beginning of the diet that includes almost no carbs at all, with the goal of reducing your craving for carbs. After that, a low level of carbs is reintroduced. If you try to ride during that first phase of the diet, you're gonna be in tough shape- no energy. But... IF you can get through the first phase, and IF you've lost at least about 8 pounds in that two weeks, you KNOW that the diet works for you and it is a powerful motivator to stick with it.

For myself, I still try to keep my carbs limited, but the foundation of my current weight loss plan is that I'm eating vegetarian dinners with my wife (who's been vegetarian for a few years now) and trying my best not to snack in the evenings. It seems to be getting traction.

You do NOT replace carbs with protein in low carb. You replace it with fat.
Exactly. I was about to post this, and glad someone got to it. Fat is not to be avoided. It is what you need for energy, and it doesn't make you fat at all. Getting energy from protein is very inefficient, and you will not feel good being active doing that. If you eat lots of fats (as opposed to more carbs) for energy, your blood sugar and insulin will be more stable, and so your energy level and appetite will be less spikey.

I don't specifically eat a low-carb diet, but my diet turns out to be pretty low-carb, though it could be more so without losing important nutrition. I eat nutritionally dense foods and avoid processed foods, grains, legumes, and sugar. I make sure to get lots of good fat. So, the end result is pretty low carb; I've probably gone into ketosis a couple times (not a problem), but that's not normal for me.

Whenever I cook vegetables, eggs, or meat (when needed), it's in a good amount of fat (like bacon fat (the best), coconut oil, olive oil, good butter, palm oil or ghee).

I will base this loosely on last week, but I can't remember all details. A week might be something like:
Monday:
Breakfast: 3 quality eggs scrambled maybe with some mushrooms, spinach, or other vegetables, 3 pieces of bacon
Lunch: Skip it. Busy and not hungry.
Dinner: Lamb Shoulder roast with sweet potatoes, carrots, onions, Jerusalem artichokes

Tuesday:
Breakfast: a little full fat plain greek yogurt with some berries
Lunch: leftover salad with chicken and bacon (avocados, tomatoes, mushrooms, onions, etc)
snack on some almonds
Dinner: Huge Cheeseburger with tomatoes, mushrooms, spinach, onions etc

Wednesday
Breakfast: 3 eggs with smoked salmon. handful of blackberries.
Lunch: an apple. Some pieces of it dipped in almond butter.
Dinner: Short Ribs with various vegetables

Thursday
Breakfast: Nothing. Not hungry
Lunch: Nothing. Might as well turn it into a fast.
Dinner (had an apple right before): Chuck roast (a lot of it) and veggies. Snacked on sweet potatoes after sprinting workout.

Friday:
Breakfast: short ribs and a few berries
lunch: Chuck roast and veggies
dinner: Salmon, asparagus, salad

Satuday:
Breakfast: Power omelet (4 eggs with all kinds of veggies), 4 pieces of bacon, a few bites of full fat yogurt with a few blueberries
Lunch: a little salmon and a few bites of salad. Some avocado. Snack on macadamia nuts, banana
Dinner: Bison chile (no beans). Snacked on some bacon after workout.

Sunday:
Breakfast: none
Lunch: Bison chile. Snack on a pear, shared a sausage, and had almonds dipped in guacamole.
Dinner: a lasagna-type dish with ground beef, but with zucchini instead of noodles.

I would not be surprised to see you collapse of malnutrition or get a heart attack like old man Atkins himself.Atkins didn't die of a heart attack. He fell and hit his head. I've never followed the Atkins diet or anything, but no reason to perpetuate lies about him.

Also, carbs themselves don't have any nutrition that you need, unlike other macronutrients which are essential. Carbs are an energy source (not the only one), but the idea that you will suffer severe malnutrition because you lack enough carbs is silly. Carb-heavy foods have vitamins of course, but so do low-carb animal products, at a much more efficient (and more complete) rate than carb-laden foods (including the healthiest fruits and vegetables). Vitamin C is about the only thing fruits and veggies are generally better for, but if you eat liver or some others you're fine there too, while there are some essential things you just can't get from fruits and vegetables (or the even less nutritious grains). But these are secondary things anyway. There's no requirement for carbs themselves.

The wife did a full month of almost zero-carb diet. She ate tons of hummus and salsa dipped with snap peas, cucumbers, bell peppers, etc. Ate tons of salad (oil and with-the-mother-apple-cider for dressing), LOTS of quinoa and carb-free pasta (made from quinoa I believe). Plain almond milk, almond cheese, etc. "Ate" plenty of chicken broth also. She declared it quite possible to live completely sugar-free and almost carb-free, but definitely something you really have to plan out.

The wife did a full month of almost zero-carb diet. She ate tons of hummus and salsa dipped with snap peas, cucumbers, bell peppers, etc. Ate tons of salad (oil and with-the-mother-apple-cider for dressing), LOTS of quinoa and carb-free pasta (made from quinoa I believe). Plain almond milk, almond cheese, etc. "Ate" plenty of chicken broth also. She declared it quite possible to live completely sugar-free and almost carb-free, but definitely something you really have to plan out.
Looks like you're confusing carbs with fats, as was done earlier in the thread. Although there is some fat in what is mentioned, it's very low fat, and not low carb. It is certainly possible to eat basically zero carbs. Many people do this optionally with no problems, and traditional hunter cultures like the Inuit always ate that way and were healthy. You can't live without fat, however.

Most of the energy source of the diet quoted is carbs, not protein or fat, and no one on that would go into ketosis and use ketones either,

I did low (nearly no) carbs for a while a while back and I had great results. it was a fabulous jump start to weight loss. tough to do while training though. I did it with a daily walkign routine and that seemed to work OK.

right now I'm doing 2 weeks of no bread cuz this winter has featured too many bagels etc. even no bread is tough and i find myself sneaking in small bits of flat bread or a few crackers here and there. even a burger with 1/2 the roll.

the point is if you reduce the junk that makes you fat even if you can't cut it out completely, you'll feel great and lose weight. no carbs works but if you can't hack it there is still something to be gained with variations using reduction of carbs, especially if you've been overeating them.

best carb I know is a banana before a workout!

Looks like you're confusing carbs with fats, as was done earlier in the thread. Although there is some fat in what is mentioned, it's very low fat, and not low carb. It is certainly possible to eat basically zero carbs. Many people do this optionally with no problems, and traditional hunter cultures like the Inuit always ate that way and were healthy. You can't live without fat, however.

Most of the energy source of the diet quoted is carbs, not protein or fat, and no one on that would go into ketosis and use ketones either,

What I meant was that she was an almost-zero SUGAR diet. You are correct that there are plenty of carbs, but they are all complex carbs with no simple sugars. She ate plenty of meat and eggs and oil, so fat wasn't too much of a concern. Most emphasis was on green veggies and legumes/quinoa though.

It would be helpful to know the reason behind the question maybe?

Just to let you know so you can take my two cents with a grain of salt, or however the sayings go- I'm just starting my attempt to be more healthy, which means doing something active and eating better.

My husband ordered P90X and we were doing well on it. It has workouts to follow and a nutrition plan with 3 phases. The phases shouldn't change in calorie amount, but you start with less carbs and more protein, and gradually add them back in to "normal" levels. It divides foods into groups such as protein, carb, dairy, etc, and then you get a set amount of each group per day. This is if you go by portions instead of following their particular menu plan.

So I am 120 pounds roughly, so I start at level One, which gives me 1800 calories a day. This must be 5 protein, 2 dairy, 1 fruit, 2 vegetables, 1 fat, 1 carb, and 3 snacks. Oh and 1 condiment. My husband has to eat tons more. Basically you jigsaw your daily meals to fit into that puzzle. They give you a list of acceptable choices to help you out. For example- a protein serving could be 6 egg whites, 2 slices turkey bacon, 3 oz. lean meat, 3 oz. fish, etc. More importantly, because various products may not come in exact pretty portions, it tells you the calories to shoot for.

So breakfast could be 6 egg whites with mushrooms and cheese in a scrambled egg creation, with a glass of milk and orange juice. That takes care of 1 protein, 1 veg, 1 dairy, and 1 fruit. Easy!
Your snacks are also given in a list and are counted completely separate from your other categories, even though some things obviously are a dairy, like yogurt. You would have your yogurt snack AND your other dairy servings. This gives you wiggle room in the type of snack you want.

Of course, this diet emphasizes low fat and even goes as far as to discuss healthier methods of cooking to achieve it. It really helped me realize just how badly you could be eating even when you think you're doing alright. To state again, that first "low carb?" phase is only one of 3 for a 90 day program and isn't meant to be long-term. Basically it also showed me exactly how much the type of food you eat and when and how much can affect you. I felt GREAT following this guide. When I ate junk, I'd feel like junk, and not just from guilt at the indulgence. Stopping most of the sugars and things caused me to lose all weird cravings, eating every few hours kept (and keeps) me from being hungry, and the small portions really are deceiving. I "normally" would eat way under my recommended calories- such as a bowl of cereal, then a sandwich for lunch, and then the usual meat, carb and veggie dinner- but nothing else in between. Not eatting so much salt from ready-made meals also had a huge impact on us. It took less spice to make a meal tasty, you appreciate the natural flavors more. I actually drank unsweet tea AND added the lemon, which was delicious. I didn't like lemons. I didn't like sausage, and now I can eat some kinds. When we did eat salt like when the brother-in-law cooked (oh my gosh talk about a shock), we both really noticed a chubbiness from retained water the few days afterwards.

Anyway, I'll get down off my enthusiastic soapbox. I just never knew all that stuff and it excites me to find out how really easy it is to fix the problem. My opinion is that eating right isn't a matter of low-carb or anything. Its making sure you eat a balance of good things and only as much as you need- whether its balanced by exercise or reduced amounts to compensate inactivity- what you eat makes a difference. Like I said, this is all just me and my uneducated opinion, take it for what its worth to you :)

I do not eat low anything. Just try to be healthy overall.
Recently for strength training purposes I changed from 70/20/10 (carbs/fat/protein) to 50/20/30. A wee bit annoying as a vegetarian.
My exceptionally twitchy stomach seems wonderful at the moment and hopefully keeps it up. Finally gaining some muscle mass at long last.

Breakfast today was eggs mousseline, bacon with thyme, coffee, lavender crepes.
Mid morning snack was smoked trout, cracker bread, lemon aioli. Micro greens salad with roasted golden beets.
Lunch was smoked duck breast, green beans with brown butter and toasted pine nuts, stilton souffle.
Teatime was an apple chiboust tart, more coffee.
Dinner was roasted lamb roulade with pancetta, risotto milanese, vegetable terrine.

As an actual low carb eater, rather than someone who wants to rattle off whatever they had for dinner last night, I'd like to answer the OP's question.

Breakfast is usually eggs with sausage or bacon and coffee.

Lunch is usually a big green salad with chicken or turkey.

Dinner is a large meat entree (beef, chicken or pork) with vegetables - kale or other cooked greens usually.

I don't need a lot of variety, but mix up the dinner choices enough that I don't get bored.

The best resource for this kind of eating is http://www.marksdailyapple.com

Check out books by Gary Taubes.

Also, not all carbs are equal. The main ones I avoid are easily digestible carbs -- sugar, sryups, non whole-grain bread, white pasta, polished rice, potatoes, etc.


Same here. I eat a lot of vegetables, fruits and meats. Olive oil and butter. I think the low-fat obsession has gotten out of hand. It certainly hasn't made anyone thinner. I will have some carbs during a ride; I've bonked once and won't risk that again.

I cut out most junk food years ago and recently have added chips, crackers, and most pasta and white rice to the banned list. I could eat a whole bag of chips while watching Paris-Roubaix and then feel terrible but still not full. I think that's the problem with a lot of today's processed foods; they don't trigger that "I'm full" feeling and so people overeat.

Very hard to get rid of everything in one's diet and I'm not going to insult my host if they are serving mashed potatoes or lasagna.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Glycemic Index Load as a means of low-carb/healthy eating plan. It's not enough to know the carbs or where they fit on the glycemic index, but what is a proper serving size and how much the TOTAL is. While I wish I could just do it on my own, I can't and I find this is a great aid. You don't have to cut out carbs, just pick better ones.

The best resource for this kind of eating is http://www.marksdailyapple.com

Yep.

I started reducing carbohydrates yesterday after watching Fathead. Took a couple of weeks for it to sink in, but I figure I could experiment on myself.

Today so far I have eaten eggs, yogurt, mixed nuts, cheese, lettuce, carrots, chicken and salad dressing.

I'm not eliminating carbohydrates. I'm simply making better choices in terms of which carbs I eat. Fruits and vegetables are loaded with vitamins and minerals, while bread and pasta and oatmeal, etc. are pretty "empty".

I don't know how some people can cycle and eat low carb..

Maybe it's just me but I just can't cycle as good on low carb/high fat/moderate protein compared to a higher carb diet. :P

[QUOTE=InTheRain;10681611]Typical foods consumed on a low carb diet:

eggs, cheese, fish, poultry, beef, broccoli, green beans, lettuce,

avoided on a low carb diet:

pretty much eveything else that was not mentioned above. No milk, no fruit, no bread, no pasta, almost all sauces, anything with refined sugar or corn syrup, no cereals, no juices, no legumes. It sounds drastic... it is - so is diabetes and heart disease.

You can get to the 30 g of carbohydrates by eating low-carb vegetables such as the broccoli and green beans.[/QUOTE

As cyclists, we now both follow the newest version of Atkins, with good success for weight loss. But on rides, we DO use Hammer gels and low carb trail mix or Kind bars, because those carbs are burned off during excercise and not stored as fat.
Check out the marathoner Bowulf on Youtube for great meals( flax bread is now a diet staple here).
You can easily see if you are burning fat by checking with a Ketostix.

This is the thing that everyone keeps missing about low carb if they haven't read the books. You do NOT replace carbs with protein in low carb. You replace it with fat. Protein has roughly equal usefulness in both fat burning and carb burning metabolic modes. If you go low carb high protein and don't get enough fat you'll feel like dirt because at that point the only thing your body has to burn is protein (which it doesn't like doing) and your own fat. Atkins phase one calls for something like 65% of your daily calories coming from fat.

Granted I've only been doing this a few days now, but I wake up easier, don't experience the 2:30pm post lunch energy drop that I used to feel, and my endurance/ability to go to the gym is pretty much the same as its always been.

I believe you just described Atkins. Atkins is a type of low carb, but it's not the ONLY low carb diet.

koffee

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Glycemic Index Load as a means of low-carb/healthy eating plan. It's not enough to know the carbs or where they fit on the glycemic index, but what is a proper serving size and how much the TOTAL is. While I wish I could just do it on my own, I can't and I find this is a great aid. You don't have to cut out carbs, just pick better ones.

+1. And I'm glad you said Glycemic INDEX, not Glycemic SCALE. Big difference!

koffee

I've done quite a lot of research on the effects of carbohydrates and insulin. I can't say that there is much benefit nutritionally from the "blood sugar/insulin cycle" that is the result of a diet that includes anything more than the minimum of 30 grams of carbs per day. I've heard about "healthy" eating habits for years. All of us have... and we have a rate of diabetes that is higher than it has ever been (I'm included in the numbers.)

It might be time to actually question what are "healthy eating habits."Low carb diets are for people that have no clue whatsoever about human/animal anatomy. If we were designed to run off a low carb diet, we would have sharp teeth for tearing meat, and a short digestive track like other predators. Instead we have flat teeth and a long digestive track designed to remove nutrients from high density, low calorie foods(read: fruits, veggies).

Even if you try this "no/low carb" crap, your body is still going to turn fats and proteins into glucose and run it through the Krebs cycle. No matter what you do, your body is going to run off sugars. You might as well eat right in the first place and eat reasonable portions, and not force your body to run off fuel it wants to use for rebuilding muscle.

Low carb diets are for people that have no clue whatsoever about human/animal anatomy. If we were designed to run off a low carb diet, we would have sharp teeth for tearing meat, and a short digestive track like other predators. Instead we have flat teeth and a long digestive track designed to remove nutrients from high density, low calorie foods(read: fruits, veggies).

Even if you try this "no/low carb" crap, your body is still going to turn fats and proteins into glucose and run it through the Krebs cycle. No matter what you do, your body is going to run off sugars. You might as well eat right in the first place and eat reasonable portions, and not force your body to run off fuel it wants to use for rebuilding muscle.

+ oh, say, 5.3 million. An intro biology class would pretty much kill any notion of no/low carb diets being healthy, or even logical.

When I increased my protein intake I went on a low carb diet accidentally until I nailed down my diet. I felt absolutely horrible.

So +5.4 million.

+ oh, say, 5.3 million. An intro biology class would pretty much kill any notion of no/low carb diets being healthy, or even logical.
Maybe you should tell that to Dr. Robert Lustig, professor of clinical pediatrics in the department of endocrinology at the Univ. of California SF.

Low carb diets are for people that have no clue whatsoever about human/animal anatomy. If we were designed to run off a low carb diet, we would have sharp teeth for tearing meat, and a short digestive track like other predators. Instead we have flat teeth and a long digestive track designed to remove nutrients from high density, low calorie foods(read: fruits, veggies).

Even if you try this "no/low carb" crap, your body is still going to turn fats and proteins into glucose and run it through the Krebs cycle. No matter what you do, your body is going to run off sugars. You might as well eat right in the first place and eat reasonable portions, and not force your body to run off fuel it wants to use for rebuilding muscle.

Amen....

Maybe you should tell that to Dr. Robert Lustig, professor of clinical pediatrics in the department of endocrinology at the Univ. of California SF.
As well as the past 200 years of clinical evidence, scientific research, the Masai, the Inuit, and myriad successful low-carb/high-fat eaters.

Dietary fat != (high serum cholesterol or atherosclerosis or heart disease)
Low fat (especially low saturated fat) and/or low cholesterol are, however, strongly correlated to cancer.
Carbohydrate consumption is strongly correlated to heart disease, high triglycerides, and cancers.

Ref: legion, but "Good Calories, Bad Calories" is a fount of scientific references.

I have noticed a drastic difference in my twitchy stomach when I went from a high carb low fat low protein diet (maybe a 70 20 10 split) to 50 20 30.
I briefly dropped to 35 35 30 and I felt terrible on the bike and off of it. No energy at all.
I think there maybe something to reducing carbs and increasing protein but going to a low carb or no carb diet seems utterly idiotic to me.