Southern California - Cyclist Killed in Highland...

Breaking news that a cyclist was killed by streetracing teens in the city of Highland....

http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_W_webcyclist09.13dabb5.html

Too sad! I don't understand the stupidity!:mad:

The article says no one has been arrested yet, after saying the cars were street-racing:mad:

What are the effing cops waiting for?

My condolences to Mr. Alvarado's family.

I must say you have a very very odd system there. He killed a cyclist - so we are talking about a human being, not an inanimate object here - a human being. And yet he was not arrested? And they will decide whether they will charge him at all? Sorry, but that's just un-f-believable. When I have to express myself like that. But it deserves even some heavier language, but...I will refrain. And racing trough city and on public roads is beyond stupidity. It is irresponsibility coupled with a few other things. Such a person should not be allowed to drive ever again, and he should be taken care of by the system, since it was no accident if he was racing, something was bound to happen.

pretty un-effing-believable that no arrests were made at the scene of such a tragic accident. it doesn't take a genius to figure out exactly what happened and what parties were responsible. the sheriff's dept needs time to investigate what??? law enforcement is absurd out here.

hopefully, the story will continue to circulate and enough eyes will be on it to ensure that justice is served. no doubt the driver should deserve jail time and the other parties involved as well. a message needs to be sent that speed contests will not be tolerated.

is it me or does it just seem that cycling/ auto related fatalities just doesn't grab peoples attention like it should? not sure if SB county is a big cycling hotbed but i hope enough residents there make a big enough uproar to see this thing through to justice.

This what piss me off the most these days and stupid kid racing on the street and giving bad rep to the people who race on the track and keeping it safe....

Sooner or later thats gonna happen on GMR

true most of those guys go during the night....

For some reason the courts are lenient when a cyclist is involved.. Over the years I have seen it over and over again.. Very Sad, hopefully a diligent DA will get the case and send him away for a long time.

Sooner or later thats gonna happen on GMR



Riding GMR up yesterday I heard a car screeching around the turns. Turns out an SUV full of kids were riding up to the start point for their skateboards down. I heard them coming so I just pulled over and let them by as they peeled some rubber around the turn with a few hanging out shouting out and shouting from the windows like a bunch of fools. Now I know why the cops chase them off the mtn.:mad:

Very sad indeed -- and more-so because it was "one of our own" who was killed.

But whether the victim was a cyclist, pedestrian, motorcyclist, skateboarder, motorist, adult or child, the driver needs to be held to the same standard: whatever law(s) were violated should be charged.

By our own, I hope you mean human.

He should have been detained at the very least for his own safety. Without being there or having conducted a full investigation, the reason the accident happened is unkown. An arrest without proper charges becomes a difficult conviction.

It is horrible that a life was lost. But judicious course is warranted.

Riding GMR up yesterday I heard a car screeching around the turns. Turns out an SUV full of kids were riding up to the start point for their skateboards down. I heard them coming so I just pulled over and let them by as they peeled some rubber around the turn with a few hanging out shouting out and shouting from the windows like a bunch of fools. Now I know why the cops chase them off the mtn.:mad:
It's almost amazing how they will drive up the mountain with a blatant disregard for safety when they are minutes away from being the vulnerable ones themselves.

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Riding GMR up yesterday I heard a car screeching around the turns. Turns out an SUV full of kids were riding up to the start point for their skateboards down. I heard them coming so I just pulled over and let them by as they peeled some rubber around the turn with a few hanging out shouting out and shouting from the windows like a bunch of fools. Now I know why the cops chase them off the mtn.:mad:What Cops? I've never seen one up there except after a crash.:mad:

By our own, I hope you mean human.
I'm pretty sure he meant cyclist, since it's the main topic of the news article, in the title of this thread and posted on a cycling forum.

I had posted this here because along with the fact that a cyclist is one of our own, he was also noted and beginning a pro level involvment with the sport. I would suspect he was a fairly careful rider if he was at this level. I was more than a little surprised at the lack of coverage in other news outlets, and believe that the word should be spread when stupity takes a life. It's up to all of us to send letters, go to courts and do what it takes to see laws get enforced.

Last year a notable friend of mine, a member of the National Vet's Fencing Team, was killed by a drunk driver. I took the time to write the judge asking for a stiff sentance for the killer. She did not hand one down, so I took the time to write another letter expressing my disgust at her handing down such a light sentance. The judges need to know the public expects them to handdown fitting punishment. I am rather unsure how to keep up the details of this incident, but I still want to believe that the public getting involved in expecting laws to be enforced matters.

The Greenspot area is a favored riding area for many cyclists around here. There is a quaint little store in the actual location called Greenspot, and a couple of roads extending away from it that are a nice ride. I believe this death occured between Greenspot and the Highland area on a stretch of road with little to no buildings along it.

There is also a difference between street racing, and driving like a moron all the time. Street racing used to be when people who took the time to mod cars challengd each other, went to a secluded, safe place and raced each other. As devolpment took those areas, true racers took it to the track to maintain their interest in racing. In the IE, there seems to be an ever-increasing amount of Import types driving like morons all the time. Maybe I'm getting old or something, but at my worst I never dove through traffic and cut cars off like these clowns do. I think it's unfair to lump these drivers in with racers, they are nothing of the sort. Perhaps budget cuts removing driver's d classes are a bad idea. Driving is a skill that needs to be understood. For myself, I would rather they cut the football teams and stadiums than Drivers Ed. I will never have to play football in public, but I will have to deal with drivers every day.

Let's keep track of this case for the memory of the rider, and our own future safety.

Well Said!!!!, I think the parents should also be held accountable. They buy these kids the cars, but don't take time to moniter what there doing with them.

I was referring to a fellow cyclist when I said "one of our own".
We (any group of folks who come together around a shared interest) always mourn the loss of a member or friend.

As the second part of my post tried to mention, 1) our ultimate concern should extend to anyone (humans) who suffers as a result of such an event and 2) the law should be enforced in all circumstances, not selectively.
The law requires an investigation of the facts and due process. Our outrage when hearing a "news story" should always be tempered by patience within the judicial system.

Hope that clears it up.


By our own, I hope you mean human.

He should have been detained at the very least for his own safety. Without being there or having conducted a full investigation, the reason the accident happened is unkown. An arrest without proper charges becomes a difficult conviction.

It is horrible that a life was lost. But judicious course is warranted.

Current update to the information on what happened is this:

Three Redlands East Valley HS students (in three cars) who live in the Highland area were racing each other to school. One tried to pass another, lost control and hit the cyclist at around 70mph. Locals to the area say the same three have been racing each other to school for an extended time and law enforcement has done nothing about it.

REV is a fairly new school (known as being for the rich and priveliged of the area), and it's sports program is known for poaching atheletes from all other area districts with shady deals to get the students at their school. Jocks seem exempt from the rules the rest of the campus have to follow. Last month the football QB beat up a coach and was arrested, with charges amounting to no more than a slap on the wrist. The driver of the car that actually hit the rider is a 4.0 student with a soccer scholarship lined up. That said, locals supporting the school have already started the "He's a great kid who made one tiny mistake" type of talk to try and get him out of facing the charges.

I do not feel this is a tragedy of any sort. Tragedy means something inevitable that can't be prevented. This was stupidity, and I may be an a**, but don't feel the need to extend a hand of friendship to someone doing something stupid that painfully kills someone else. My feelings are colored from nearly dying in a car wreck myself...so I admit to being more blunt than most folks on the subject.

Perhaps too, my anger stems from having to drive and ride on the same local streets as these idiots and their classmates, many of whom exhibit the same stupid habits behind the wheel....

Get him sentenced and get him do some time - because he killed an human being. Lets think about that for a second - trough his own stupidity, he killed him. He needs to learn that such things have consequences, and your cycling community should make sure, in any way that they can, that he gets a good sentence. Anything less is not enough, and he will only learn that he can get away with anything if nothing is done. Don't let that happen, keep the stupid ones responsible. Being stupid does NOT excuse them of killing another human being.

+1. He needs jail time. And take away his friggin' soccer scholarship.

Sooner or later thats gonna happen on GMR
Hate to agree with you, but if you are up there often enough, you see some ugly stuff.

Current update to the information on what happened is this:

Three Redlands East Valley HS students (in three cars) who live in the Highland area were racing each other to school. One tried to pass another, lost control and hit the cyclist at around 70mph. Locals to the area say the same three have been racing each other to school for an extended time and law enforcement has done nothing about it.

REV is a fairly new school (known as being for the rich and priveliged of the area), and it's sports program is known for poaching atheletes from all other area districts with shady deals to get the students at their school. Jocks seem exempt from the rules the rest of the campus have to follow. Last month the football QB beat up a coach and was arrested, with charges amounting to no more than a slap on the wrist. The driver of the car that actually hit the rider is a 4.0 student with a soccer scholarship lined up. That said, locals supporting the school have already started the "He's a great kid who made one tiny mistake" type of talk to try and get him out of facing the charges.

I do not feel this is a tragedy of any sort. Tragedy means something inevitable that can't be prevented. This was stupidity, and I may be an a**, but don't feel the need to extend a hand of friendship to someone doing something stupid that painfully kills someone else. My feelings are colored from nearly dying in a car wreck myself...so I admit to being more blunt than most folks on the subject.

Perhaps too, my anger stems from having to drive and ride on the same local streets as these idiots and their classmates, many of whom exhibit the same stupid habits behind the wheel....

If they were racing to school, they must have really been running late....

Didn't the accident happen between 9:30 - 10:00 AM?

Jerks! Wah wah, "I have a soccer scholarship and made just one mistake..."

If that's the reason to "give a kid a second chance" things are pretty messed up....

I've seen too many teens "mess up" because they knew they would be bailed out by their parents....

Too bad this is WAY BEYOND messing up!

Current update to the information on what happened is this:

Three Redlands East Valley HS students (in three cars) who live in the Highland area were racing each other to school.

REV is a fairly new school (known as being for the rich and priveliged of the area),


That said, locals supporting the school have already started the "He's a great kid who made one tiny mistake" type of talk to try and get him out of facing the charges.





I love how people present therories as fact.

I am aware that there was at least one passenger in one of the cars, there for there must have been at least four students. Others have reported that the fact is there were four cars. Interesting facts.

REV is a public high school. Don't know where the priveleldged thing comes from. I think probably more of the well to do's at Redlands high school, since its area has some pretty upscale housing in it.

Based on that I question what you present as fact.

Fact, car versus bicycle, Car will win. Cars can be dangerous if not used responsibly. Fact, Greenspot road is narrow, and many people who use the road do drive too fast. Fact, the city of Redlands has no bike lanes. IT is home to the Redlands Bicycle Classic but it does not support biking.

I am not condoning the kids driving habits. Only that the facts are bad enough, no need to embellish. LEt's stick to facts.

I do agree with getting the dangers out there by making sure people know of this accident and learn from the mistakes of others.

I do agree with getting the dangers out there by making sure people know of this accident and learn from the mistakes of others.

And of course punishing those responsible.

BTW, you make it seem like it was Jorge's fault for cycling at the wrong place at the wrong time.

I love how people present therories as fact.

I am aware that there was at least one passenger in one of the cars, there for there must have been at least four students. Others have reported that the fact is there were four cars. Interesting facts.

REV is a public high school. Don't know where the priveleldged thing comes from. I think probably more of the well to do's at Redlands high school, since its area has some pretty upscale housing in it.

Based on that I question what you present as fact.

Fact, car versus bicycle, Car will win. Cars can be dangerous if not used responsibly. Fact, Greenspot road is narrow, and many people who use the road do drive too fast. Fact, the city of Redlands has no bike lanes. IT is home to the Redlands Bicycle Classic but it does not support biking.

I am not condoning the kids driving habits. Only that the facts are bad enough, no need to embellish. LEt's stick to facts.

I do agree with getting the dangers out there by making sure people know of this accident and learn from the mistakes of others.

ratherbpiping,

I have some facts too. Greenspot is a narrow road and cars drive fast, but I was on that road last year with 100s of other cyclists and no one was killed. Another fact. Bike lanes do not make a road safer. Fact. The kids were racing causing the death of an individual. Just because what some say are not your narrow definition of facts doesn't mean that they're not true. Another fact. The other poster did not say the school wasn't public. He said privileged.

Maybe you should get some facts and come back and see us. :)

:mad:What Cops? I've never seen one up there except after a crash.:mad:

On one ride, Hillbasher and I saw a couple of motorcyle cops and a heli chasing people off the mtn. There was a group of motorcyclists acting rather crazy while a phototgrapher was shooting pics. Rather busy one minute then dead quiet the next. That was a Monday Holiday though, might have been the difference.

I've also seen the police Blazer/Bronco (whatever it is?) up there a few times.

I knew Jorge from many years of officiating races in SoCal. I will miss his smiling face and great racing.

I've also seen the police Blazer/Bronco (whatever it is?) up there a few times.
Not sure about there, but I've been told that where I grew up (Calabasas/Agoura area), that car is driven by the Sheriff chief.

ratherbpiping,

Just because what some say are not your narrow definition of facts doesn't mean that they're not true. Another fact. The other poster did not say the school wasn't public. He said privileged.

Maybe you should get some facts and come back and see us. :)

FActs are truth, is that narrow?

Public schools are not made up of privilaged kids. They are open to public kids who are resident in the distrct.

Sorry you don't like that

BTW, I am not condoning the actions of the kids, Just saying over exageration takes away from credibility. The facts speak lots,

FActs are truth, is that narrow?

Public schools are not made up of privilaged kids. They are open to public kids who are resident in the distrct.

Sorry you don't like that

BTW, I am not condoning the actions of the kids, Just saying over exageration takes away from credibility. The facts speak lots,

Do you know the definition of privileged? Public schools and privileged children are not mutually exclusive. Maybe you should do some research on some of the public schools' students and their families' median income. The guy said privilege not private. And what you consider over exaggeration is just your opinion--not facts.

I guess that means that the students attending Beverly Hills High School aren't privileged. Looks pretty swanky to me.

http://bhhs.bhusd.org/

FACT- Innocent Cyclist was killed

FACT- The law does not favor cyclists

FACT- This kid will have to live with this the rest of his life

FACT- Nothing will happen to the kid or kids

FACT- The Judicial system in the USA is probably the worst of any country

FACT- They have been racing in the 909 since I was in high school

FACT- Bahati is raising money right now to give him the proper burial in Mexico with his family.



Did anyone contribute? or are the kids in Redlands going to take care of that?

^ I'd like to see some of your support for a few of your "facts", especially the one about our country having the worst judicial system. Where's umd to help argue the definition of the word "fact"?

For what it's worth, I went to a public school where my upper middle class family was considered on the "poor side" of the student population. Many of my classmates had country club memberships since birth, got $30,000 to $100,000 cars for their 16h birthdays, and never applied for scholarships because mommy and daddy would pay for college.

Privileged or not, the driver was irresponsible.

The driver's age was reported to be 18 at time of the accident. He's an adult, not a kid, and will be tried as one. Enjoy your time at Chino young Patrick.

I appreciate the fact you are trying to dismantle my point however it would be hard to argue the injustices of the US judicial system. Now if you want cases sighted we can do that as well.

I appreciate the fact you are trying to dismantle my point however it would be hard to argue the injustices of the US judicial system. Now if you want cases sighted we can do that as well.
Actually, I agree with your point on the whole. I just take exception to you using a word with blatant disregard for its definition. A few of the things you said are "opinion" and not "fact". I'm not saying they're true or false, just that they do not meet the requirements to be called a fact. Actually, the words "fact" and "probably" do not work well together. I could bring up many countries which I believe to have a worse judicial system than the US, but that would still be a matter of opinion.

Sorry to go off topic. I hope the driver gets a stiff sentence, but nothing will bring back the cyclist's life.

FACT- Innocent Cyclist was killed

FACT- The law does not favor cyclists

FACT- This kid will have to live with this the rest of his life

FACT- Nothing will happen to the kid or kids

FACT- The Judicial system in the USA is probably the worst of any country

FACT- They have been racing in the 909 since I was in high school

FACT- Bahati is raising money right now to give him the proper burial in Mexico with his family.



Did anyone contribute? or are the kids in Redlands going to take care of that?

yes an innocent cyclist diesd that is a fact.

The law does not favour cyclist? That is an opinion but the law should be fair to all and not favour cyclist , pedestrian etc.

This kid and those with him will live with this for ever, that is fact.

Nothing will happen to the kid/kids is conjecture. Fact is Police were at REV this week questioning people. (I have been told from a reiable source)


The judicial system in the USA is the worst in the world; Fiction, travel dude, I think you might get your eyes opened up.

They have been racing in the 909 since you were a kid, probably true in the 714, 626, 310, and every other area in So Cal. and elsewhere in this greast country.

Did anyone contribute? or are the kids in Redlands going to take care of that. I know this is a question. Good news to get out there. I wonder if the kids families would kick something in. But in this one statement you have lumped all the kids in REdlands into one big bowl. Just as others have made sweeping statements of the parents, the school, corupt systems.

I repeat, I am not condoning the actions of the kids.

But things that are being presented as fact such as "The Judicial system in the USA is probably the worst of any country" Do not help push the cause for safer biking.


One poster compared Redlands to Beverly Hills. Get real. REV is a school for previlleged kids, NO, REV is a public school that has kids from low income right through to upper middle class. I think someone has been watching too much 90210.

Others state as fact that the parents are working deals with the authorities. I guess it is possible that that person really has information to prove that, but if so, take it to Court, not an internet forum. Oh that is right the US judicial system is the wosrt in the world.

There have been suggestions of death penalty. Come on people.

This was a tragic event that could have been avoided. IT involved what appears to be wreckless Driving, too much speed for the situation, an unsafe driving manuver, and loss of control of the car due to these things. The result was the death of an innocent man who was perfectly within his rights to be where he was. The police are investigating, I would like hear news as that progresses. Also, it would be nice if there were other things to make this route safer. I like riding this loop, but it is dangerous. There will be bad drivers up there and even though we are within our rights to ride there, when bikes tangle with cars, bikes come out second best. You can aurgue all day that it is within your rights, but Fact, car @4000 lbs moving at 50 MPH versus bicycle 170 pounds including rider. is not a fair match up.

Rather than feed the rumour mill about corupt parent, privlaged high schools, and unrully teen agers lets discuss how to avoid this from happening again here or other similar popular biking routes.

Another thought, the law has to protect these teens from the lynch mob as well. Let's help them focus on investigatin gth eincident rather than make them protect the kid's that many are screaming should be put in prison for ever.

Sorry one more. When I was 18, I made some bad judgments. My parents were fuddy duddies and did not understand teenage life. I made many bad judgments and good ones. I am not alone. Fortunately noo one got hurt but some one could have. Kid's make bad judgemnts. That also is fact. I am not saying that should go unpunished. But even sever punishment will not stop this from happening again.

Do you know the definition of privileged? Public schools and privileged children are not mutually exclusive. Maybe you should do some research on some of the public schools' students and their families' median income. The guy said privilege not private. And what you consider over exaggeration is just your opinion--not facts.

We are not talking about some schools we are talking about REV! IT is not a school for over privilleged.

I guess that means that the students attending Beverly Hills High School aren't privileged. Looks pretty swanky to me.

http://bhhs.bhusd.org/

PRiveliged kids may got to various schools, but a kid whose parents make $20,000 going to Beverly Hills High would not be in my mind privillaged.
Getting a bit off topic here .

It's not off topic to point out the issues that create dangerous situations, such as the priviledged attitude of REV students. To state that Redlands High is the school with more students with a wealthy background attending is a point outdated by at least 10 years. I live 30 yards from the Redlands High, and see their students everyday. The school is over-crowded by almost 4 times the number of students it was built to handle. A large percent of the students walk to school. Few that drive to school have cars newer than 5 years old.

The REV campus is state of the art, and better than a great number of private school around the country. If you drive by the school, the STUDENT parking lot is filled with BMW's, Porches, Lexas, etc; most of which are less than 3 years old. It's a sad situation when the students drive better cars than the staff. :notamused:District lines were drawn to exclude specific portions of the city, to allow only certain neighborhoods access to it. It's a known "fact" that if you attend REV over RH you are "better" than everyone else.

To add to the attitude, a sports menality runs rampant at the school. Parents in the area start their kids in first grade a year late, to allow them to be older for sports when they reach high school, hence the driver's 18 year old age. (As for the time of the killing, who says that the studnt had a first period or even second period class to attend? They could start later than first period).REV signs students from out of their area through any means needed to enhance their teams. These students are the most spoiled. Just a few weeks ago a football/ baseball player attacked a coach and he is only being considered for a minor charge as a result. The school's backers are using the same arguement that's starting over the cyclist's death, "He's a great kid who made one little mistake". In this case that one mistake was KILLING SOMEONE!

While driving my sports car, I have been cut off, yelled at, threatened and damn near killed by these brats with REV stickers on their cars and trucks. On my bike, I no longer even ride in this part of town. In my F-250 they don't display the same attitude towards me. (I'm certain that if I didn't avoid their careening Hondas and managed to run over and kill one of them, I would never see the light of day outside of prison again; why shouldn't they be held to the same standards?).


This driver is a soccer player of note at the school, much like the FB player who beat up the coach. That means nothing in the real world, but you can be assured that lots of people will be blowing off the value of the rider's life to get severly reduced charges against the driver.

It frankly sounds like you have students at REV and are defending the attitudes like all the rest that have an association with them. Yes, I am disgusted with REV students and their actions and attitudes. Yes, I would have this idiot pay with his life for killing someone. Yes, many people would disagree with me on that point- many people have not been through the pain and suffering of a near death wreck and cringe at the thought of the young rider's final moments.


Redlands hosts the Bike Classic, and I have actually found most drivers in the rest of town to be very considerate. More so than any other place I've lived. They stay clear of riders in San Timitaeo Canyon, they give berth everywhere else. This isn't an issue of everybody or the area being a bad place for riders. This is an issue of spoiled kids with no responsibility killing people.

If the charges are light, perhaps cycling as a group should consider no longer holding the Classic in this town.....

PRiveliged kids may got to various schools, but a kid whose parents make $20,000 going to Beverly Hills High would not be in my mind privillaged.
Getting a bit off topic here .
Did you verify that this kid's parents make $20,000 a year? My understanding is that anyone making that little can't afford to live in the service area of BHHS. That school also doesn't grant transfers very easily. Read up on that city and you'll see why it has privilege built into it and well contained.

I apologize for my wanton use of the word "facts". I forgot how official cyclists are especially roadies.

To the REV super fan, You have said you don't condone what the kids did but you have really not offered what
would be a solution. You appear to be defending the actions of these privileged kids even though you say your not.
I guess if you rode a bike instead of acting as a public defendant for these "careless" kids you would understand.

No problem, I think we should give those kids all the support they need in their time of despair and let the Alvarado family figure it out.

The judicial system in the USA is the worst in the world; Fiction, travel dude, I think you might get your eyes opened up.



True dat.




One poster compared Redlands to Beverly Hills. Get real. REV is a school for previlleged kids, NO, REV is a public school that has kids from low income right through to upper middle class. I think someone has been watching too much 90210.



This poster was responding to your suggestion that a kid going to public school is not privileged. It ain't so. Students in families making $20,000 a year and attending Beverly Hills High School? I'd say that is a fiction.




Sorry one more. When I was 18, I made some bad judgments. My parents were fuddy duddies and did not understand teenage life. I made many bad judgments and good ones. I am not alone. Fortunately noo one got hurt but some one could have. Kid's make bad judgemnts. That also is fact. I am not saying that should go unpunished. But even sever punishment will not stop this from happening again.



On this, I agree. I did effing stupid things too ... maybe not as stupid as these knuckleheads, but ...

I also do not see the handing out long jail sentences when the person is unlikely to repeat the behavior, and when it is unlikely to deter others from doing the same thing.

Assuming the facts are true as reported, I'd give him a choice of: (1) a long jail sentence or (2) a lengthy commitment to specifically directed public service. In this case, that would be spending at least one day a week for a period of years visiting drivers training programs, telling people what he did, how it impacted others, and why they should never do the same.

That might just prevent the same thing from happening as often, and it would give him a chance at redemption.

If he's truly sorry and understands the weight of what he's done, he should welcome the chance to do (2). If not, as far as I'm concerned, it's jail time.

I apologize for my wanton use of the word "facts". I forgot how official cyclists are especially roadies.

No problem. It's probably because I'm a teacher, though, and not because I'm a roadie. As for my anal retentiveness, that's probably due to both :D




Assuming the facts are true as reported, I'd give him a choice...
You really seem to like giving convicted people choices. Considering it makes them think, and your "nicer" choice tends to be directly related to the crime, I wonder if it would be effective at getting the person to truly contemplate his/her actions.

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QUOTE]Fact, car versus bicycle, Car will win. Cars can be dangerous if not used responsibly. Fact, Greenspot road is narrow, and many people who use the road do drive too fast. Fact, the city of Redlands has no bike lanes. IT is home to the Redlands Bicycle Classic but it does not support biking.[/QUOTE]
So the answer is what, don't ride your bike in Redlands. Do you think that a bike lane would have prevented this accident? I think jail time and loosing a scholarship might not be enough. This kid can still put his life back together in a few years. I don't think the cyclist will be able to do that ever. They don't have bicycle races in heaven, hell or whatever place we go to after death if any.