Electric Bikes - Do I need steel?

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Mike B.
04-10-10, 10:26 PM
I have a Schwinn bicycle. The frame and forks is an aluminum alloy, anyways it is not steel.

I've heard that it's not a good idea to convert an aluminum framed bike into an electric. Is that true? I'm tempted to try it anyways. I really don't want to buy a new bicycle, just to convert it, when I already have one that may work. (Yep...you guessed it...I'm a tight wad.)

Is a steel frame (forks) really necessary?

What's your experience?

Thanks!


cvenstrom
04-10-10, 11:04 PM
4/10/10

For what it is worth. I had my 1200 W Cyclone motor mount welded to my Aluminum frame Diamond Back Recoil mountain bike. It is a 3 wheel chain drive system. I am very happy with the bike. I am still have some issues with my kit; I burned up a controller after less than 150 miles & I am disappointed how it takes the hills. It is great on relatively flat paved bike paths.

Carlsbad Carl

morph999
04-11-10, 01:34 AM
Are you sure your Schwinn is not steel? Most are I think. If it's Aluminum 6061, that's steel.


rscamp
04-11-10, 07:48 AM
Are you sure your Schwinn is not steel? Most are I think. If it's Aluminum 6061, that's steel.

6061 is an aluminum alloy.

The issue with aluminum isn't strength alone. The failure mode can be catastrophic...

Mike B.
04-11-10, 09:32 AM
6061 is an aluminum alloy.

The issue with aluminum isn't strength alone. The failure mode can be catastrophic...

I'm sure it's not steel. A magnet will not stick to it. I've heard that steel is more flexible than aluminum, which is needed to handle the torque. Is that right?

rscamp
04-11-10, 01:50 PM
Mild or tempered steel flexes and yields (deforms) more before failure which gives you more warning. The aluminum is more prone to sudden fracture. If this occurs, the result can be nasty - I would think the rider would take to the air over the handlebars...

CowtownPeddler
04-11-10, 02:43 PM
My Katmandu frame is all Aluminum. I decided to buy the rear wheel conversion and it's been working just fine. Sometimes it worries me, that seems to be a lot of weight, but so far no issues.

I wouldn't use a front wheel drive kit.

yopappamon
04-11-10, 03:07 PM
My Giant Suede is aluminum so I went with the rear drive amped system with a torque arm.

Mike B.
04-11-10, 06:23 PM
So, would anyone happen to have a link(s) to rear wheel conversion kits? I have no idea, as to what company would be producing a good product.

Thanks!

morph999
04-11-10, 08:56 PM
the nine continent are pretty good motors.

ampedbikes.com
e-bikekit.com

both use nine continent motors.

Hightekbikes.com uses aotema motors and those are pretty good too.

http://ebikes.ca has a lot of different motors to choose from.

If you want some decent lifepo4 batteries that aren't too expensive, check out the "looking for battery recommendation" thread here in this forum.
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?631390-Looking-for-battery-recommendations
They were dirt cheap, about $104 per 12v pack but they raised prices a little but they are still a good buy at $120 per 12v pack. That thread also tells you what to buy and how to charge them properly so that you don't destroy any cells.