Touring - Attaching Ortliebs to Tubus racks

Hey folks, just got a set of ortliebs and a couple tubus racks (tara / logo), and am just curious as to how you attach them.

On the front I put both top hooks to the front of the fork. Would it be wise to put the rear hook to the rear of the fork (so one is on each side of the fork)?

On the back, with the logo, I put both top hooks in front of the rear vertical tube. Should I have put the rear top hook to the rear of the vertical arm? I know that sounds confusing, hopefully you understand what I'm getting at.

And with the bottom hooks of the panniers, I guess all I did with those was to point them in some sort of horizontal direction and had all 4 facing to the rear of the bike. Is that wise?

Thanks.

I use the tara front rack with Ortlieb panniers, and I put one hook behind the fork, because the clip at the bottom faces to the rear and can come off if the pannier slides forward.

On the rear, I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I would recommend that you mount the pannier as far forward as possible without hitting it with your heel.

The bottom hooks are meant to keep the bag from swinging outward when you lean the bike and to keep the bag from sliding back and forth on the rail. Whatever configuration that achieves both those goals is a good configuration. I have a Cosmo, and the bottom hooks on my rear panniers point down into the main V of the rack. Easy to mount and unmount the bag, and the bag won't go anywhere when I put the hook into that small area.

Space the top hooks as widely as possible to prevent sliding and to provide as stable a mount as possible. Use the full length of the rail if you can.

When you space out the top hooks, you likely will have only three inches or so that you can move the back bag forwards or backwards. Position the bag to eliminate heelstrike and all other possible interference. If you must shove the bag all the way to the back to achieve that, that would be fine.

The rail on the front rack will probably be longer than the maximum spacing on your small panniers, but one hook will likely have to go behind the fork. It would probably be best to center the bag on the rail and use the bottom hook to hold it there. Doesn't make much of a difference where it goes exactly, as long as it doesn't interfere with anything.

got a photo? it tells a lot more this way.