Classic & Vintage - Hi everyone - Miyata "Team" road bike - 1990 -

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jaguiler
05-10-10, 08:23 AM
Hi Everyone,

I am new here. I used to be a USCF racer back in the late 80's. Before I stopped racing I purchased a 1990 Team Miyata - this was 1990 that I bought it in.
It has full Dura Ace - everything - I used it for a few training rides and then had to stop cycling due to a car accident - so I never picked it up again.... ugh.
So needless to say the bike is in my garage - I used it maybe a dozen times for neighborhood rides in the past 10 years. It still has original tires, tubes, handle bar tape...etc... only missing a crankarm dust cover.

Anyway - I was thinking of selling it on Ebay or Craigslist - or parting it out for the Dura Ace collectors.
But I happened across this forum and I thought someone here might appreciate it more - as it looks like there are a few Miyata collectors .....

Should I list it for sale here first ? I am in no real hurry - but I do want to pick up a cheap hybrid or something to ride with the kids during the summer.

My old race bike is a Falcon - and I am holding on to that one - making it a fixed gear.

Thanks
John


jet sanchEz
05-10-10, 08:46 AM
Hi John, sure, sell it here as there is a "Classic and Vintage Sale" subforum and a Team Miyata will garner a lot of interest. If you have an eBay account, you can search for completed sales on Team Miyata bikes and you will see that they usually fetch in the neighbourhood of $600, depending on the size and condition.

edit: I should mention that I am interested in it if it is my size ;)

Zaphod Beeblebrox
05-10-10, 08:50 AM
A Team Miyata will certainly fetch a lot of interest, You might look to trade it for a Hybrid + some cash.


Those are great bikes. I just rode mine today.


KonAaron Snake
05-10-10, 08:51 AM
Generally things go a little cheaper here than they do on Ebay, but you don't have sellers fees...you don't have to deal with ebay questions and ebay idiots...and you get the knowledge and comfort that it's going to a good home, where it will be loved.

norskagent
05-10-10, 09:00 AM
well without the crankarm dust cover, it's practically worthless. If it's 54cm, send it my way and I'll try to salvage what little value is left for you!

Zaphod Beeblebrox
05-10-10, 09:01 AM
this really is worthless without pics.

(hint, hint)

KonAaron Snake
05-10-10, 09:04 AM
Norskagent...I'm a 54cm too...I'll wrestle you for it!

rothenfield1
05-10-10, 09:09 AM
I would say, also; that depending on where you live, you may get just as much for the bike on the Craigslist in a major market area near you. I live a couple of hours away from the SF Bay Area and have had buyers met me half way. Craigs will sometimes take longer to sell than Ebay. However, you don't have to hassle with shipping, unless you opt for local pick-up only. Either way, I think you will be happy with your responses.

jaguiler
05-10-10, 09:12 AM
OK for those of you that want to salvage it since it is missing the dust cover... sorry - it is actually a 56 cm. Just measured it and checked with the catalog from 1990. If it were a 54 I would have just sent it to you... I would have charged just $10.00 shipping as well.

But seeing that it is a 56 - then it has more value - :)

Here are the pics! I have more if you need it -

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http://www.bikeforums.net/images/misc/pencil.png150146
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=150146&d=1273504358

KonAaron Snake
05-10-10, 09:15 AM
Sighhh...so close, yet so far. I wonder if a rack would stretch my legs enough?!?

jaguiler
05-10-10, 09:15 AM
Snake -

I also make regular work trips to Philli as well... too bad

khatfull
05-10-10, 09:29 AM
Oh my, that's beautiful. :love::eek::twitchy::D:cry::thumb::)

How many PMs have your received after posting the pics?

KonAaron Snake
05-10-10, 09:32 AM
Oh my, that's beautiful. :love::eek::twitchy::D:cry::thumb::)

How many PMs have your received after posting the pics?

I didn't think you liked anything that didn't say Fuji!

I have a serious love affair with Miyatas...one day I'll get a Team in my size.

khatfull
05-10-10, 09:41 AM
Miyatas would be the second target, no question. I like lots of things that don't say Fuji...believe me, but as I explained to Collin at some point my "targeting" Fuji serves two purposes:

1) I simply like the way the mid-80's to early-90's Fujis are styled. They really pushed it at times graphically and stylistically and I like that.
2) I don't feel bad when something, like this Team Miyata, comes and goes. I just tell myself "That's a beautiful bike, but it's not a Fuji." :)

It's my way of self-throttling...

The OPs Team Miyata is an absolutely stunning bike, no question. Would I kick it out of bed? Heck no! At the very least I'd love to ride it for 40-50 miles just to do it. If I came across that bike locally and bought it for a song I'd be in a serious predicament. :)

miamijim
05-10-10, 09:52 AM
Kind of looks 58-ish...

Zaphod Beeblebrox
05-10-10, 10:04 AM
Kind of looks 58-ish...

+1 looks bigger than 56

khatfull
05-10-10, 10:25 AM
+1 looks bigger than 56

Actually it's a 57.31415926cm frame and as such is EXACTLY MY SIZE. Given that it's such an odd size and will fit ONLY me I think the OP would be fortunate to ship it to me for the cost of shipping plus a case of beer....I mean, it won't fit ANYONE else :)

jet sanchEz
05-10-10, 10:52 AM
Crap, that does look like a 58cm frame which means it is my size...double crap.

John, do you think you could give us some measurements of the seat tube and top tube, centre to centre?

jamesss
05-10-10, 11:09 AM
How much did you buy it for in 1990? Its worth that much today right?

jaguiler
05-10-10, 11:15 AM
Hi -

You know I went out and measured the top tube. It is 55 cm from the center of the headset to the center of the seat post. Attached is the Miyata catalog. It points out that the 56 and 58 have the same measurements for the TEAM. So it looks like the 56 and the 58 are the same.

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khatfull
05-10-10, 11:42 AM
How much did you buy it for in 1990? Its worth that much today right?

That would be fun to know, just to know :)

jaguiler
05-10-10, 11:46 AM
It would be fun - wouldn't it ? ;)
It was the top of the line Miyata. The bikes under it was the Titanium Team - which was less $, I think something like $1600. I wanted steel. The Team was listed at close to $2000.

KonAaron Snake
05-10-10, 11:47 AM
As I recall, and my memory is a tenuous thing, these went for around $1,800.

jaguiler
05-10-10, 11:49 AM
good memory !

jamesss
05-10-10, 11:51 AM
Dang thats a whole lot a bike! Is there anywhere on the internet to that lists the prices?

KonAaron Snake
05-10-10, 11:56 AM
The sick thing is that 1,800 actually made it one of the less expensive dura ace bikes of its time. The Cannondales went around $2,000 and the Italian stuff was usually in the 2500-3500 range.

miyata man
05-10-10, 12:26 PM
So, there is a good chance it's a 58 and I'm throwing my dustcap in the ring so to speak. I speak a little Japanese and promise to treat her to at least one dinner ride a week.

jet sanchEz
05-10-10, 01:26 PM
Hrm, I guess that is why 58s never turn up, because they are actually 56s! Is this because of the Dura Ace AX cranks making the measurements different? There was discussion on this forum recently about a Team Miyata eBay auction where the BB was stamped with both 56 and 58

Fred Smedley
05-10-10, 01:56 PM
Nice bike, too bad you are not able to ride it........to bad my wife would boot me out the door if I brought it home!

khatfull
05-10-10, 02:02 PM
Nice bike, too bad you are not able to ride it.......to bad my wife would boot me out the door if I brought it home!

I'm going through that little mental exercise internally right now...about a different bike, but same exercise.

miamijim
05-10-10, 08:04 PM
Dang thats a whole lot a bike! Is there anywhere on the internet to that lists the prices?

No. But if memory serves me right we sold that very model for $1799. I remember Teams being $999 around '84, they jumped to $1200+/- around '85/6, stayed there for a few years and jumped to $1800+/- when the 2 tone paint schemes came out. The jump to $1200 was probably due to the new Dura Ace group in '85 while the jump to $1800 was more than likely due to the yen/dollar exchange rate.

zmensing
05-25-11, 01:37 PM
I see this thread is a little older, but did you ever end up selling the bike? If not, OVER HERE! :) I'm looking for a Team, and that one is a beauty!

Elev12k
05-25-11, 02:02 PM
What size are you looking for?

Zaphod Beeblebrox
05-25-11, 02:13 PM
Might enjoy reading this: I did.

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=148567&d=1272580798
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=148568&d=1272580802

zmensing
05-25-11, 02:50 PM
What size are you looking for?

Anywhere from 56-59cm would work. My 618GT is a 57cm and it's really comfy to ride.

Elev12k
05-25-11, 03:13 PM
Okay

There is a 1991 Koga FullPro ex-Tulip computers advertised on eBay. In 59 flavour.

zmensing
05-25-11, 03:42 PM
I believe I've seen the one you're mentioning. That's a beautiful frame. Do you think the "additional headset (working poor, need lubrication)"is anything to worry about? Any idea why the decals are gone (I found the velobase page you had posted about the model).

zmensing
05-25-11, 03:53 PM
Hmm, I also see that the 59cm is c-c, not c-t as normal, according to the ad. Since you posted about it, do you/did you have one of these frames yourself?

Elev12k
05-25-11, 04:18 PM
Yes, I had. It is pretty much similar to the Team Miyata. The Koga Pro for the 1991MY was finished in the same paint, but didn't have the bare chrome fork and stays. It is typical for the Tulip FullPro frames. The FullPro for the market for that year had exposed chrome too, but the paint was with blue spider. The decals typical for this frame are not the most durable I've seen. Probably with the eBay frame they were gone for a substantial bit, what made the owner decide to completely remove them.

I do still own a FullPro of the same era, but with other paint/graphics. A MY90 example with the full original kit incl Dura-Ace. All catalogues with the bikes in it can be viewed through koga.com.