Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Lockring/Chainwhip Tool recommendation?

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matic
06-01-10, 04:40 PM
I'm thinking about getting the Shimano TL-SR22 Track Lockring/Chainwhip Tool. Are there any other combo tools that you guys recommend?


evilcryalotmore
06-01-10, 05:16 PM
Use the chain on your bike. Just wrap it around the cog. And spin your rim.

matic
06-01-10, 07:03 PM
Use the chain on your bike. Just wrap it around the cog. And spin your rim.

thanks for the advice. but looking for the tool


iFixed
06-01-10, 07:16 PM
That is the tool that I have, and it works perfectly. Not a lot of torque in it if you have a cog that is really stuck, but for the most part it works perfectly for lockrings and cogs.

jonsan
06-01-10, 07:28 PM
If money is no object I would get this:

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1369

Tomo_Ishi
06-01-10, 07:46 PM
That is the tool that I have, and it works perfectly. Not a lot of torque in it if you have a cog that is really stuck, but for the most part it works perfectly for lockrings and cogs.

Use a little bit of liquid wrench or something similar in the gap between the hub thread and cog/lockring. WD-40 should work well enough. Take utmost care as to no excess would go into bearings. Let it sit for a few minutes ... perhaps a smoke. Then try again with that tool and cog should come free. For me, cogs almost slip off without much more torque than I regularly give.

Correction: You're right, I have to work at it, but I don't jump or hammer on it. That's all I mean by "torque I regularly give". ...

cg1985
06-01-10, 07:56 PM
Raleigh owns this brand called 'Avenir' which makes pretty inexpensive tools. Maybe not the best quality, but I bought a lockring/chainwhip/15mm/14mm wrench + bottle opener for like 20 bucs.

seems to work well enough.

Scrodzilla
06-01-10, 07:57 PM
Use the chain on your bike. Just wrap it around the cog. And spin your rim.

How would your your chain be useful in installing/removing - or even tightening - a lockring?

PedallingATX
06-01-10, 08:07 PM
i just have a trixie tool. I use it for the lockring, and then I use the chain on my bike for the cogs. Not amazing, but it works. I've yet to strip a lockring or anything like that with it...

you can also attach some chain to it and make it into a chainwhip, but i don't do that b/c I want to keep it portable

Leukybear
06-01-10, 08:14 PM
If you want a portable combo tool; I recommend from ownership the sunlite 3 in 1 (chainwhip, lockring tool, universal pedal wrench) tool really handy and perfectly sized for torque and portability.

Combo tools are handy but if you want something that lasts way longer and performs easier and better, spend the extra money and get shop quality tools at home like the park tool sr1/2 (2 is way better in my opinion) and a hozan lock ring tool.



How would your your chain be useful in installing/removing - or even tightening - a lockring?

His talking about rotofixing.... google "rotafixa" ;)

Scrodzilla
06-01-10, 08:18 PM
I understand using the rotafix method to install or remove a cog. However, without being able to first remove your lockring, your cog ain't goin' nowhere.

Leukybear
06-01-10, 08:23 PM
A flathead and a hammer takes care of both loosening and tightening the lockring.... although I cannot guarantee effectiveness or not damaging to yourself or the lockring/ cog is going to happen... just like to mention aswell that I've only seen it being done.

Squirrelli
06-01-10, 08:25 PM
I understand using the rotafix method to install or remove a cog. However, without being able to first remove your lockring, your cog ain't goin' nowhere.
I was wondering about the same thing too...

I have the Hozan bb/headset/lockring tool, works great.

Brian
06-01-10, 08:44 PM
A flathead and a hammer takes care of both loosening and tightening the lockring.... although I cannot guarantee effectiveness or not damaging to yourself or the lockring/ cog is going to happen... just like to mention aswell that I've only seen it being done.

As far as bad ideas go, that's awesome.

f50fan
06-01-10, 09:49 PM
Hammers are like duct tape.

klaw091
06-01-10, 09:58 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Avenir-94-27-955-cinco-fixie-wrench/dp/B003BML4H2/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1275451084&sr=8-17

had this till it was confiscated at the airport -_-

Fugazi Dave
06-02-10, 12:27 AM
Use two different tools. Get the big Park chainwhip and Hozan lockring pliers. These are two tools that will not let you down. Even if you break the chain on the chainwhip (and I've done it), it's easily replaced.

Tomo_Ishi
06-02-10, 05:35 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Avenir-94-27-955-cinco-fixie-wrench/dp/B003BML4H2/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1275451084&sr=8-17

had this till it was confiscated at the airport -_-

How did that happen? It doesn't look like anything that could start a fire or anything. If I didn't know any better, I would imagine it's a kinky sex toy or something.

Brian
06-02-10, 05:38 AM
How did that happen? It doesn't look like anything that could start a fire or anything. If I didn't know any better, I would imagine it's a kinky sex toy or something.

Here in the US, they won't let you on a plane with nail clippers. That tool could actually be used as a weapon.

Tomo_Ishi
06-02-10, 05:44 AM
Here in the US, they won't let you on a plane with nail clippers. That tool could actually be used as a weapon.

You are lying to me, I distinctly remember Indy Jones putting a hand gun and a whip inside his carry-on in the Last Crusade. :p

Just kidding. Thanks for telling me. Stops at customs and trashed / searched suitcases just ruin the day. Not that I dislike customs people tho. Most of em are real nice to me.

Brian
06-02-10, 06:41 AM
I remember buying wax chain lube on sale, and thinking what a great deal I scored, then watching them toss it in the bin at the airport.

cg1985
06-02-10, 06:58 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Avenir-94-27-955-cinco-fixie-wrench/dp/B003BML4H2/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1275451084&sr=8-17

had this till it was confiscated at the airport -_-

Yep that's the tool I have. Works well enough.

muckymucky
06-03-10, 01:36 AM
http://www.benscycle.net/images/EAISuperTool1.jpg

one of our guys got one of these for $60 and it works if you run cogs lower than 16t and the lockring tool is freaking awesome.
its an all in one for cog and the lockring~

klaw091
06-03-10, 01:01 PM
How did that happen? It doesn't look like anything that could start a fire or anything. If I didn't know any better, I would imagine it's a kinky sex toy or something.

....no tools longer than 8" or 9"... -_-

Triple8Sol
06-04-10, 03:53 AM
If you want a portable combo tool; I recommend from ownership the sunlite 3 in 1 (chainwhip, lockring tool, universal pedal wrench) tool really handy and perfectly sized for torque and portability

+1 on that. I just picked one up recently and it's been working great. This guy:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41QTH5kk7oL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Brian
06-04-10, 09:08 AM
That EAI tool is pretty sweet.

c double
06-04-10, 01:25 PM
http://www.treefortbikes.com/cat/0/130/Tools-and-Maintenance.html#navbar=pro___333222352369___281

I got this. Works just fine.

http://tfe.me/images/raw/PakeChainwhip.jpg

Leukybear
06-04-10, 05:41 PM
Sunlite is one of pake's suppliers.... obviously you can sunlite's exact same version w/o pake's logo for cheaper on ebay or amazon.... and the combo tool comes with the 1/8 section of chain.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31gPfl6ozVL._SS500_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41QTH5kk7oL._SS500_.jpg

f50fan
06-06-10, 02:37 AM
I have that Sunlite combo tool and would have to say that I dont recommend it. Only reason is that the lockring wrench nib is semi rounded, and isnt very good at grippng lockring notches and mine eventually stripped to where the tool couldnt grip well enough to a point I would trust.

oldfixguy
06-06-10, 03:35 AM
Lockring and chain whip tools are definitely occasional use tools but they are also tools that if not quality cause unnecessary wailing and gnashing of teeth. I suggest what I have - Hozan lockring tool and Park SR-2 chain whip. I swapped out the chain portions with 1/8th but kept the pieces around if I ever need 3/32. It only takes a minute to change it around. Both I consider "best of breed" tools. They make life easier and are worth their asking prices.