Touring - drive side spokes on tour
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06-12-10, 10:21 AM
Hey, I've been reading a mechanics book at the library and it says you cannot change a chain side spoke without removing the cassette. And that requires a chain whip.
From my reading, I've seen no mention of the whip, but it seems the drive side is the most commonly broke spoke.
How do you handle it?
06-12-10, 10:32 AM
1. get rid of that plastic ring if you have one on the wheel.
2. get a fiber fix spoke for emergencies.
I have a freewheel and have taken out spokes with out removing the freewheel but it would be easier.
I carry a freewheel tool and have stopped at auto garages to us a vice when absolutely necesary.
If you have good trued wheels / good spokes you shouldn't be breaking too many spokes.
FiberFix spokes (http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fiberfix.htm ) are a great thing to have in this situation. If you insist on being able to get your cassette off, and if it's a shimano cassette, try this: http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=519699423873&d=single&c=Tools&sc=Cassette-and-Freewheel&tc=Cassette-Lockring-Tools&item_id=SN-HC
A good way to avoid the whole issue is to make sure your wheels are in top shape before you start a long tour, or maybe even start the tour with newly built wheels.
06-12-10, 12:13 PM
you can do these ways: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/forum/board/message/?o=RrzKj&thread_id=149428&v=a&page=1&nested=0
06-12-10, 07:30 PM
I've used this little bugger. It works like a charm. Just put a piece of plastic or wood between your frame and the tool when you use it.
P.S. the sooner you replace that spoke after it fails, the less chance there is that it will over stress other spokes and the whole wheel goes to h eee double ell.
In the Tips & Tricks thread (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?128270-Tips-and-Tricks/page12) there is a spoke modification that keeps you from needing a tool....scroll down almost to the bottom.
Another option that has been posted before. Just modify a few spokes before you go on tour
An emergency spoke is one that can be inserted in a wheel without removing the wheel from the bike or removing the cassette cogs, tire and tube. To make one, you get a spoke that’s the same type as what’s in your wheel (so that it’ll screw into the nipples in your wheel). A shop can help you with this. But get that spoke about 5 mm longer than what you have now. To turn it into an emergency spoke, cut the head off the bottom of the spoke (non-threaded end) and bend two 90-degree bends into the spoke so the end looks like and upside-down L. With this bend in the end of the spoke, if you break a spoke on the road and you have your emergency spoke, you’ll be able to extract the broken spoke and easily replace it with the emergency spoke. Because the emergency spoke has no head, you just poke the bend into the hub hole, weave the spoke through the others, screw it into a nipple and tension the spoke. No wheel disassembly required! This trick also allows you to repurpose long spokes and cut them down to use in smaller wheels for bicycle repairs (so you don’t have to search for the right size spokes
edit: sorry KLW2, didn't see you had already covered this option
It worked!!!!! I love it when I learn something new. I don't know if it was this thread of the "lightening your tools" thread, but someone suggested zip tying the cassette to the spokes. I just gave it a try with my typical removal nut with splines, and the Leatherman Crunch that I carry. It worked!!!! Easy breezy. I gave up a hypercracker for a length of heavy cord with a knot, but now I'm down to a few zip ties to use as a chain whip.
06-16-10, 02:50 AM
+1 I just got back from a tour where I used this to remove the lockring and it worked as advertised. The spoke broke on the first day of a 34 day tour so I was glad I was able to fix it with a new spoke and not have to worry about an emergency spoke holding up for the rest of the tour. The spoke replacement took about an hour all together because the spoke broke right at the nipple so I had to take the tire off and rim tape to remove the old nipple. BTW, it wouldn't have been much faster with the emergency spoke because I would still have had to remove the tire to get the nipple out. Also, remember to bring a spare nipple along with your spare spoke just in case you get a break like mine.
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