Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - help im in the zone wheel building and am confused!

ok im building my phil double fixed flip-flop right now and umm how do you build a wheel with two drive sides? sorry its my first time. i think i understand, but if someone could give me some reassurance id appreciate it.
thanks.

Uh I may be very wrong but I don't think it matters? maybe...

I just build it with two drive sides, it doesn't seem to affect the ride, I do notice though that if I've riden on one side longer then the other say a 16 over the 18, that if I flip it I have a tendency to bust a spoke. So I've started examining them and flipping them more often so when I need the 18 over the 16 I'm not going to damage the wheel all together.

ok i checked my other bike and now i am even more confused. what i am gonna do is lace the hub with the pulling spokes on (either) drive side facing head out. but my other wheel is laced (never noticed) with the opposite of this -- head out, pulling spokes on the non-drive side. this seems weaker so i hope the former method is actually a good one.

any help anyone??

wow replies already didnt see them. wow i dont want any broken spokes yo. someone tell me how to do this please? sounds like i am doing like what you said, naisme. two drive sides, each built a little weaker than a single drive side wheel. are double drive side wheels just weaker? maybe they suck? sounds like a pain in the ass to have to worry about breaking spokes. :(

sheldon brown

cant find anything specific on sheldons site about flip-flop lacing. can you?

center-dish the wheel. lace it normally.

or, take it to someone who knows what they're doing.

errrm, but then what happens when you flip it over and the wheel (and spokes) are being pulled in the opposite direction? wouldnt that be bad???

i would lace both sides 3-cross and if you do a lot of skidding, hill riding with a lot of weight or if your just generally a powerful rider look into getting the crosses soldered together. i've never soldered wheels myself but i hear it helps with stiffness and strength.

christ no one gets what im talking about. have you not built wheels. aargh.

Leading - trailing - Doesn't mean much cause when you skid you apply as much or more stress to the wheel than when you accelerate, so either way is fine.

So a normal 3 cross will do fine either way you turn the wheel

Leading - trailing - Doesn't mean much cause when you skid you apply as much or more stress to the wheel than when you accelerate, so either way is fine.

I think we have a winner. Makes sense.

Don't stress out over nothing. Just lace up the wheel like any other 3-cross wheel and go ride it. It's no big deal. The wheel will be perfectly happy whether you flip it or flop it.

I'v got a double fixed Phil 32 hole laced 3 cross. No probs

thanks yall. sorry for being a spazz.

Don't feel bad, I just asked a very similar question without reading the post list tonight.
I have not built any wheels before.

I will go with 3-X, tied and soldered on mine.

Just make sure you get a good chainline. If you don't have a good chainline and you have to dish the wheel to one side to compensate, I think that would make flipping the wheel prone to spoke breakage. And a bad chain line.