Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - looking for better wheelset suggestions

I'm starting to think about upgrading my wheels. starting looking at some hed 3's and deep carbon cane creeks.

what are some other good carbon wheels out there? my main problem is i don't want to spend a grand on wheels. but i want a decent improvement if i'm going to get anything new at all.

i currently have dp18s and they're good enough but i want something better.

i really like the way aerospokes look, but i only hear negative things about their performance. so my question is, what are my options? looking at clinchers only.

If you don't want to spend a grand, then you won't get carbon wheels.

Um still waiting for these Reynolds Recons to show up again on the internets for $500 or less!!!!
:cry: :cry::cry:

http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz130/bcbikeguy/Geartrade%20Bikes/ReyTrack1.jpg

These are $480ish but freakin Machined!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Milwaukee-Bicycle-Company-Track-Carbon-Wheelset-/200489535284?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eae1b8734
WTF! I want full carbon Clinchers!!!

If you don't want to spend a grand, then you won't get carbon wheels.

yeah i thought so, i'm just trying to broadening my search so i can snag up a good deal on ebay or something. i just need to know about other brands and models so i can keep an eye out better.

for instance if i found that reynolds wheel set for less than 500, i'd be all over it. just didn't know about those wheels until now.

These are $480ish but freakin Machined!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Milwaukee-Bicycle-Company-Track-Carbon-Wheelset-/200489535284?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eae1b8734
WTF! I want full carbon Clinchers!!!

are these any good? or are they going to randomly explode on me.

if you look on ebay, there are carbon (aluminum rim with carbon fairing) clincher rims for $100.
There are also some full carbon tubular rims for a lot more.

Those carbon wheels with AL rims are pretty hefty---weight wise. Carbon toobulars are the way to go.

I'd smack my gramma for a set of S80s: http://greatdividecyclery.com/product/2010-sram-s80-rear-clincher-wheel-black-w-red-decal-sku-we4535-qc53.htm

http://greatdividecyclery.com/images/library/catalogs/soc/p350X350m/WE4535.jpg

Nevermind they're heavier than my formula/open pros... look how goddamn sexy they are.

Hot wheels.

no separate question. is it better to have a more aero wheel in front or rear?

front has more benefits for aero.
rear wheel has the seat tube in front of it, so there's not a lot of benefits to aero.

On the other hand, on windy days, you might wish for a front wheel that doesn't catch as much wind.

looking on ebay i notice that these carbon rims are often made for geared bikes. i would definitely need track hubs right?

also any suggestions for 3-5 spoke wheels?

OP - Sorry to tell ya, but you are about 6 months late. Cane Creek had an insane blowout of their carbon tubular wheels, and I picked up a set for $500 and an additional rear for $200. They retailed for $1600 a set, but Cane Creek has gotten out of the wheel business, so about the best you can hope for is a used set on eBay. I also have the tubular version of the Milwaukee Bicycle Company track wheels, and the hubs and rims are excellent, but the build quality was terrible and I had to true them up a bunch before using them.

OP - Sorry to tell ya, but you are about 6 months late. Cane Creek had an insane blowout of their carbon tubular wheels, and I picked up a set for $500 and an additional rear for $200. They retailed for $1600 a set, but Cane Creek has gotten out of the wheel business, so about the best you can hope for is a used set on eBay. I also have the tubular version of the Milwaukee Bicycle Company track wheels, and the hubs and rims are excellent, but the built quality was terrible and I had to true them up a bunch before using them.

yeah i saw that earlier when i started looking into those cane creeks. i guess it wasn't meant to be.

when you say the build quality, you mean the lacing right? i don't have a truing stand but i have messed with my wheels before using my fork.

when you say the build quality, you mean the lacing right? i don't have a truing stand but i have messed with my wheels before using my fork.

What I mean is that the wheels were not true, round and centered with even and sufficient spoke tension. By contrast, the Cane Creeks were built perfectly with high spoke tension, and have remained perfect since I started using them.

What I mean is that the wheels were not true, round and centered with even and sufficient spoke tension. By contrast, the Cane Creeks were built perfectly with high spoke tension, and have remained perfect since I started using them.

so if i get the ebay wheels, do you think i should bring them to a shop or you think i could handle it? i wouldn't be able to fix it if it was out of round i don't think. i can easily fix left/right adjustments though. i also don't know much about dish.

OP - Sorry to tell ya, but you are about 6 months late. Cane Creek had an insane blowout of their carbon tubular wheels, and I picked up a set for $500 and an additional rear for $200. They retailed for $1600 a set, but Cane Creek has gotten out of the wheel business, so about the best you can hope for is a used set on eBay. I also have the tubular version of the Milwaukee Bicycle Company track wheels, and the hubs and rims are excellent, but the build quality was terrible and I had to true them up a bunch before using them.

Stop it!
Regret always overwhelms to my mind whenever I remember this.

Only if the sale was 2 weeks later...... :rolleyes: I would've had the money to buy a set! :notamused:

so if i get the ebay wheels, do you think i should bring them to a shop or you think i could handle it? i wouldn't be able to fix it if it was out of round i don't think. i can easily fix left/right adjustments though. i also don't know much about dish.

Yeah, you prolly need to take them to a shop if they're anything like mine were. To get the wheels centered you need a dishing tool or a good truing stand. One good thing about these wheels is that since the rear is a fixed/fixed flip/flop, they are completely symmetric and there is no dish, so the spoke tension is the same on both sides. Also, they include a special Park spoke wrench, which is needed to work on the internal spoke nipples that are inside the rim.

before i buy these Milwaukee wheels. are there any 3-5 spoke wheel suggestions?

before i buy these Milwaukee wheels. are there any 3-5 spoke wheel suggestions?

Everyone is using deep section carbon wheels nowadays. Wheels design such as HED3 is pretty much outdated.

Those carbon wheels with AL rims are pretty hefty---weight wise. Carbon toobulars are the way to go.

I agree. I keep trying to find a wheelset that beats my stock bontrager wheels on my T1 for weight and keep coming up short. 1950g for the pair is damn light. Those carbon ones above are just shy of 2300g.

Everyone is using deep section carbon wheels nowadays. Wheels design such as HED3 is pretty much outdated.

what about the mavic io?

if i own a mavic io it will never see the streets.
plus u can get 5+ Hed3s for the price of a io

if i own a mavic io it will never see the streets.
plus u can get 5+ Hed3s for the price of a io

yeah i figured. just asking about the design of the wheel being outdated.

yeah i figured. just asking about the design of the wheel being outdated.

Actually, the hottest carbon spoke wheels IMO are the Corima 4-spokes >>> http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=36317

I had an IO but had to sell it because I couldn't control it in windy conditions; it's really intended to be used on indoor velodromes where there is no wind. Also, they are rather heavy, almost as heavy as a carbon disc. It was freakishly fast though, and I would have set my best times on it if I just could have controlled it.

Um still waiting for these Reynolds Recons to show up again on the internets for $500 or less!!!!
:cry: :cry::cry:

http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz130/bcbikeguy/Geartrade%20Bikes/ReyTrack1.jpg

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WTF! I want full carbon Clinchers!!!

been researching and i see that these were selling regularly at 400. wonder what the chances are that these pop up again for that price.

been researching and i see that these were selling regularly at 400. wonder what the chances are that these pop up again for that price.

slim to none...

there should be a thread dedicated to amazing deals on bike accessories. i've missed two now. cane creeks and the recons

I'm starting to think about upgrading my wheels. starting looking at some hed 3's and deep carbon cane creeks.

what are some other good carbon wheels out there? my main problem is i don't want to spend a grand on wheels. but i want a decent improvement if i'm going to get anything new at all.

i currently have dp18s and they're good enough but i want something better.

i really like the way aerospokes look, but i only hear negative things about their performance. so my question is, what are my options? looking at clinchers only.

Are you looking to race or just want to look "race"?

Are you planning to use them daily? I hope not. I have carbon wheels (zipp 808 track set plus a zipp 900 disc) and I only use them in races or when training requires it. But, 90% of the time I'm on my training set which are velocity pro elite tubular rims (same rim as Deep Vs) laced to Dura Ace hubs. Most folks with carbon wheels operate like that, even pros.

Most carbon rims are tubular. Want to deal with that riding on the road?

Most name-brand carbon wheels (zipp, hed, etc...)will cost over $1,000 each (new). You might want to try budget carbon from the cheap importers. Some are really good, but Buyer Beware.

Are you looking to race or just want to look "race"?

Are you planning to use them daily? I hope not. I have carbon wheels (zipp 808 track set plus a zipp 900 disc) and I only use them in races or when training requires it. But, 90% of the time I'm on my training set which are velocity pro elite tubular rims (same rim as Deep Vs) laced to Dura Ace hubs. Most folks with carbon wheels operate like that, even pros.

Most carbon rims are tubular. Want to deal with that riding on the road?

Most name-brand carbon wheels (zipp, hed, etc...)will cost over $1,000 each (new). You might want to try budget carbon from the cheap importers. Some are really good, but Buyer Beware.

planning on racing but these would most likely be used on the street as well. i don't commute to work every day on my bike or anything. just bike 3-4 times a week for exercise.

I'm definitely looking at getting clinchers. i just want to benefit from better parts. that's my main goal. if i wanted to look cool, i'd just get some b43s or aerospokes.

is the Milwaukee bicycle company one of those cheap imported budget carbon wheels you speak of? I'm thinking of getting those, but i don't want to waste my money if they're risky.

Those cheap wheels are probably OK. Just find a company with a good reputation (or at least not a bad one).

Remember, Miluakee Bikes doesn't make wheels. There are manufacturing companies in Asia that have ENTIRE catalogs of bike parts that you can import and put your company's name on them. Inexpensive carbon parts are a relatively new phenomenon in the retail bike world. So, the verdict is still out on it all.

Sometimes they are cheap enough to take a gamble on.

there should be a thread dedicated to amazing deals on bike accessories. i've missed two now. cane creeks and the recons
+ ten thousand

actually just pulled the trigger on some recons. much lighter for just a little more than the Milwaukee wheels.

Unless your already riding in an aero tuck wearing a skin suit and aero helmet, getting aero rims is a complete waste of money. The aero benifits of rims are so small that your looking at shaving maby a min off your time for a 40k TT, which isn't much.

Unless your already riding in an aero tuck wearing a skin suit and aero helmet, getting aero rims is a complete waste of money. The aero benifits of rims are so small that your looking at shaving maby a min off your time for a 40k TT, which isn't much.

Yup.

no mention of the Mavic Ellipse? I've had my set for 6 years already with no major problems. Small dent from riding with low tire pressure, my fault completely.

i love my box section rims,

but my aerodynammy jawns are quite nice.

American classic 420! or the carbon 58's are pretty sweet too.
http://www.velodromeshop.org.uk/images/products/american%20classic%20carbon%2058trac.jpg