Fifty Plus (50+) - Got stopped by cops today...

While driving my vehicle back from a bike ride at a National Park, I got stopped by a county deputy for having an expired inspection sticker and the fact that my bikes blocked my license plate.

I use a Saris T Rax, which does block the view of my license number. I was ticketed for the inspection sticker infraction but he let me off on the bike rack infraction. My son said that he was looking to tack on another charge and not to worry about trying to figure out how to better display my back license plate on the next outing. I kinda agree. Most of the time you won't get stopped for this sort of thing and, when you do, they don't write you up.

What's been your experience ?

Law enforcement is finicky. You got off easy. They usually like to collect signatures. Sometimes, when you have a youth with you they won't totally rain on a father son day. Can you lift your rack higher.

I thought you were going to tell us you were stopped for speeding riding your bike. :D I've found that if you're polite to the officer it helps, not that I've had a lot of experience of being stopped by them that is.

I thought you were going to tell us you were stopped for speeding riding your bike. :D I've found that if you're polite to the officer it helps, not that I've had a lot of experience of being stopped by them that is.

I was polite but I can't help but wonder why the racks are designed to obscure the license number when it's an issue with some law enforcement. The Saris post mounts on a receiver directly below the plate. Even without bikes it partially obscures the plate. Oh yeah, speeding? I think i'd gladly pay that one given my usual pace.

get the car inspected immediately then go to court to appeal the ticket. tell them you were sorry to have missed the inspection date and show them that you got it inspected right away. they should dismiss the ticket.

It is sad that some states still enforce the inspection sticker racket, but laws are laws be they good or bad.

I quit using rear-mounted racks after being rear-ended. Fortunately, my bike was not on the rack at the time of the accident. I switched to a roof-rack, but ultimately bought a mini-van with fold-down rear seats so that I could carry my bike safely inside.

Not sure where I was headed with this. Blame it on the beer . . .

First, see if they'll let you get a duplicate plate. I'm not sure about normal ones, but I've got at least two extras of my Radio Operator plates around. Then you can mount one permanently on the end of the rack or hang it on with bungee cords or something when you have the rack in place.

Trailers........which attach to the same hitch also obscure the plate.............:notamused:

Trailers........which attach to the same hitch also obscure the plate.............:notamused:

Trailers are issued their own plates in most, if not all, states. The cops are technically correct for stopping anyone with obscured plates. Most, however, will enforce the spirit of the law, not the letter of the law...thus, a warning instead of a ticket. It is legal "Probable Cause" for them to conduct a traffic enforcement stop on the motorist to see who's behind the wheel if they choose. They just never know what they'll find :eek:

Trailers are issued their own plates in most, if not all, states. The cops are technically correct for stopping anyone with obscured plates. Most, however, will enforce the spirit of the law, not the letter of the law...thus, a warning instead of a ticket. It is legal "Probable Cause" for them to conduct a traffic enforcement stop on the motorist to see who's behind the wheel if they choose. They just never know what they'll find :eek:

That may be the case here. Another cop car also arrived at the scene and I thought that was strange. Maybe they thought they had a fish on the line. But everything else checked out okay and they let me go.

Trailers........which attach to the same hitch also obscure the plate.............:notamused:

while riding home we noticed a small trailer hauling a SeaDo, which totally obscured the plate. No trailer license either.

First, see if they'll let you get a duplicate plate. I'm not sure about normal ones, but I've got at least two extras of my Radio Operator plates around. Then you can mount one permanently on the end of the rack or hang it on with bungee cords or something when you have the rack in place.

Good idea.

State and local governments are so desperate for money I am afraid it is going to get lots worse on these type of things.

Just a guess-while technically correct it almost sounds like you were stopped by someone who was looking for a reason to stop bike riders.

In Maine, you are supposed to have a front plate, I got stopped once because I had a custom plate instead of the state issued one.
I was told once by a officer that most of the time when they stop you for the front plate violation, they just want to check you out, like someone above posted.

In Maine, you are supposed to have a front plate, I got stopped once because I had a custom plate instead of the state issued one.
I was told once by a officer that most of the time when they stop you for the front plate violation, they just want to check you out, like someone above posted.

In municipalities that have traffic cameras, a state issued front plate is required, and usually comes with a substantial fine for having a missing or custom front plate.

It is sad that some states still enforce the inspection sticker racket, but laws are laws be they good or bad.

I quit using rear-mounted racks after being rear-ended. Fortunately, my bike was not on the rack at the time of the accident. I switched to a roof-rack . . . [/I]

Not an option for me - I have a Corvette convertible. My Cadillac STS won't accept a roof rack or a trunk mount rack either. My only option is a bicycle rack that fits into a trailer hitch receiver.

As for roof racks: I saw a guy in a Honda destroy 2 very nice road bikes by driving under a canopy.

My (Allen) rack is nice and high, and my plate is nice and low. 160453

and usually comes with a substantial fine for having a missing or custom front plate.

It would be $50 in Maryland( missing). I know this to be so true too.

In Ohio, as long as the numer is visible and you can show that you've got the plate & registration, you're in the clear. You don't need a state-issued duplicate plate, you just need something showing the state and license no.

ecrider, The inspection sticker is a non moving violation. Get a recipt from the inspection station and present it in court, they're often dismissed, but then again these are hard times for most towns.

Brad

PS ciocc_cat, Inspections are a pain in the butt, especially if one has a hot rod or two, but I'd rather have them than not. My youngest went to school in Oklahoma (I don't know where I went wrong!) and there are some rat traps on the road up there.

In MA, I have not heard of anyone getting ticketed for this, but that does not mean is isn't happening. I frequently see motor vehicles going along, with bikes hanging on the back, positioned in such a way as to block a clear view of the license plate. That is a citable offense.

Cities and towns in MA are all scrambling for cash, and the motorists of this state have always been treated as private ATM's. I am hearing of people getting nailed for going only a few miles over the posted speed limits. A few years ago, most cops here would give you a verbal warning for that, and just ask you to please slow it down. Not today.

As for roof racks: I saw a guy in a Honda destroy 2 very nice road bikes by driving under a canopy.

Which is one of the reasons why I got the mini-van. Memories of the time my buddy Mark almost drove our "team van" with a roof rack carrying some very expensive bikes under the roof of a drive-up liquor store in 1977 have always haunted me.

Another cop car also arrived at the scene and I thought that was strange.

Police officers back each other up as a precaution, not necessarily because they think they have an overtly dangerous situation. Also it gets lonely sitting in a patrol car for eight hours or more a day, sometimes they do it as an excuse to talk to a buddy.

A mini van is a great way to transport bikes or other cargo. It also has an advantage over pick-up trucks in improved security.

I love my autos and I have no payments. I don't want to give up my autos and have a capital expenditure.

A mini van is a great way to transport bikes or other cargo. It also has an advantage over pick-up trucks in improved security.

I love my autos and I have no payments. I don't want to give up my autos and have a capital expenditure.

Yeah, but now that I'm in the 50 plus bracket I was hoping to get a sports car on the next go around! This is not going as I envisioned. :>)

Just a guess-while technically correct it almost sounds like you were stopped by someone who was looking for a reason to stop bike riders.

More likely, just another cop who's tired of Bubba and his trailer hitch that blocks 1-2 digits of the plate number. I listen to the scanner a lot at work, and a ridiculous number of reckless drivers are never caught because one character short of a full plate number and a vehicle description of "white pickup" is practically useless, even in a small town.

While driving my vehicle back from a bike ride at a National Park, I got stopped by a county deputy for having an expired inspection sticker and the fact that my bikes blocked my license plate.

I use a Saris T Rax, which does block the view of my license number. I was ticketed for the inspection sticker infraction but he let me off on the bike rack infraction. My son said that he was looking to tack on another charge and not to worry about trying to figure out how to better display my back license plate on the next outing. I kinda agree. Most of the time you won't get stopped for this sort of thing and, when you do, they don't write you up.

What's been your experience ?

Holy smokes you guys are lucky! Here in Ca. they set up check points, sometimes 2 or 3 a week. If you don't have up to date stickers, license, insurance, your vehicle is towed by one of the 25or so tow trucks waiting for business.:eek:

I got stopped once for "one" of the lightbulbs being out on my rear plate.:eek:

What else were you doing? Most of the obsucured license plate stops I'm aware of are the excuse for a LEO to act because you are doing something else that elicits attention.

What else were you doing? Most of the obsucured license plate stops I'm aware of are the excuse for a LEO to act because you are doing something else that elicits attention.

Q probably directed towards the OP, but I was also stopped because the cop would not see my shoulders.:eek:

I was drivign through Chino Hills, nice place. We ride there during the day so the wife and I for relaxation went for a drive through the hills inthe cool evening air. A cop sitting at an intersection saw me drive by, no signal lights and I had no stop, his street T'd into the one I was on so I was clear sailing. I'm a tall dude, 6'1 and my window frame rather low compared to my shoulders. SO he startes me in the eye as I drive by. Next thing I know he's pulling me over. :eek:

Know why I stopped you? Uhh no!

Cause I couldn't see into your truck.

That's funny cause I clearly saw you in the eyes as you sat at the corner watching me.

Well, I couldn't see your shoulders through the window

uhh but you were on the other side of my truck

well it was dark in your truck

uuh yeah, windows are tinted legally and I was not driving with the dome light on

well I couldn't see you at shoulder height so I had the right to stop you if I see something supsicious

so what was it?

I couldn' see the driver

but you were on the other side so I would think it would be hard to see from that side anyways.

well where are you going?

The wife and I are taking a leisure cruise in the cool air

Are you sure you aren't coming from the bar?

What bar? I don't drink at all!

Oh, well lots of peopel drive through here after hitting the bar.

Uhh, I wouldn't be leaving the bar at 10 pm with my wife dressed in her snoopy pajamas?

OK, have a nice evening sir!

:rolleyes:

What else were you doing? Most of the obsucured license plate stops I'm aware of are the excuse for a LEO to act because you are doing something else that elicits attention.

Hmmm. I don't know we had just stopped at the Burget King for a couple of sodas. I looked pretty sweaty after a long ride and my hair wasn't combed. I'm sure we looked like something the cat drug in.

If they stop enough people maybe they can put in something other than chip-seal roads.

I don't have the "pleasure" of riding them locally, but when I was up in Ohio I had the distinct displeasure of riding on freshly surfaced chip-seal. I can understand why you hate it.

Yeah, but now that I'm in the 50 plus bracket I was hoping to get a sports car on the next go around! This is not going as I envisioned. :>)

I'm 55 and passed the transient "sports car phase" over 10 years ago. Okay, so it was just a "pretend" sports car: a sexy bright red Pontiac Sunfire with a spoiler and a nice stereo, but everything else was typical GM junk. Get a mini-van (I have a Honda Odyssey) - they're more practical for hauling bikes and lots more fun, if you know what I mean.

I'm 55 and passed the transient "sports car phase" over 10 years ago. Okay, so it was just a "pretend" sports car: a sexy bright red Pontiac Sunfire with a spoiler and a nice stereo, but everything else was typical GM junk. Get a mini-van (I have a Honda Odyssey) - they're more practical for hauling bikes and lots more fun, if you know what I mean.

Sigh... It's really a moot point until I get this next one out of college.

Sigh... It's really a moot point until I get this next one out of college.

Know what you mean . . . I've got a daughter headed for LSU!

A mini van is a great way to transport bikes or other cargo. It also has an advantage over pick-up trucks in improved security.

I love my autos and I have no payments. I don't want to give up my autos and have a capital expenditure.

Here in DUH- common-wealth there's a requirement to ticket so many violation in a given period, to prove you actually are looking for problems this usally occurs around the 29-31, hence the term making quota, or what is the flavor of the week example : inspection stickers each officer needs to get 10 this week...:eek: sometimes the troopers hang out at the exit ramps so your trapped and they really run up the quota. this usally involves a warning and a fine plus you need to find a garage that isn't backed up for 2 days trying to complete this months inspections prior to the deadline.
Some garages like to offer new tires, brakes, tail-lights, exhaust systems. I feel this is good for the economy so I usally unplug a light or place a blown bulb in the outlet this prevents the need for the more expensive repairs like brakes, and tail pipes.
:lol:

Make a donation to a Poliemans/Firemans memorial fund. They usually will send you a sticker for your car window. Display it proudly on your car window. Makes a difference when you get pulled over.

Make a donation to a Poliemans/Firemans memorial fund. They usually will send you a sticker for your car window. Display it proudly on your car window. Makes a difference when you get pulled over.

Haha. I used to be a member of the 100 Club and placed their sticker on the back window. Come to think of it, I don't remember being stopped during that time. You may be on to something.