Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - 2005 Pista

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x2mars
09-15-04, 08:32 AM
Hi, new member here. I've heard that the 2005 Pistas are arriving in store now. Has anyone seen one? What color are they? I'm hoping they are chrome again, I love those 2004s :rolleyes:


motion sickness
09-15-04, 09:29 AM
The Bianchi rep was in our store yesterday. He said the 2005 pista was gonna be chrome with a white panel.

unaesthetic
09-15-04, 09:40 AM
I've seen it, looks like it just has new decals to me.


auroch
09-15-04, 09:53 AM
not too shocked
jeff

jurnaza
09-15-04, 11:58 AM
Mine is on order right now. Bianchi told me they are due to ship the first week of October. It is the same chrome with a new decal (woohoo). As far as I know that is the only change for the 2005 and the price is the same as well. The big change for the Bianchi track bikes that I heard is that the "Pista Concept" is now going to be available as a complete bike, instead of just frame & fork, now directly from Bianchi with an estimated retail of $1400.

unaesthetic
09-15-04, 07:00 PM
I'd be interested in seeing what components the concept comes with. It has potential to be a really tight complete if they do it right..

nocoins
09-15-04, 08:07 PM
ugh.... why the chrome? I like the pistas, but I wont be buying one as long as they are chrome... I just dont trust keeping anything that shiney in the city.

x2mars
09-15-04, 09:01 PM
here's what i hear from sheldon brown (the guy with the awesome website)

"Actually, we just started getting in 2005s, which look even nicer than the 2004s
They're chrome with a white band on the seat tube and down tube,
generally nicer graphics. They also now have a double/fixed rear hub."

anyone know what a "double/fixed rear hub" is?

progre-ss
09-15-04, 09:10 PM
anyone know what a "double/fixed rear hub" is?

Instead of a flip flop hub were one side is fixed and one side is free (as in freewheel) the double /fixed rear is fixed on both sides.

merztime
09-15-04, 09:19 PM
which makes sense because I don't think Pistas come drilled for a rear brake - at least my '03 didn't

dgs
09-15-04, 10:09 PM
When i was down in miami, John at business cycles made an interesting point: a fixed/free flip-flop is pointless. better to get a fixed/fixed flip-flop. That way, you have the option of putting a fixed OR free on the other side. Without that left-threaded lockring, you're stuck with a freewheel.

glomarduck
09-16-04, 11:12 AM
ugh.... why the chrome? I like the pistas, but I wont be buying one as long as they are chrome... I just dont trust keeping anything that shiney in the city.


NOT MADE FOR STREET USE YEAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2Rodies
09-16-04, 01:14 PM
which makes sense because I don't think Pistas come drilled for a rear brake - at least my '03 didn't

My '04 doesn't isn't drilled for a rear brake either.

JWalton215
09-16-04, 03:11 PM
Please tell me they are changing that crome seat. That thing is so hideous.

glomarduck
09-16-04, 03:25 PM
Please tell me they are changing that crome seat. That thing is so hideous.


YOU CAN DO IT YOUR SELF YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

eric w
09-16-04, 10:18 PM
i have to agree...while the chrome bianchi might look all shiny and nice on the website, it really isn't that aesthetically pleasing on the road or even on display in the shop.
maybe all that *bling bling* appeals to some people, but not to me. I was really hoping they'd come out with something nicer for '05.

I'm looking to buy a 2nd track bike when the 2005's come out. I loved the '04 pinarello pista maybe they'll impress me with their new model.

then again i should wait until after interbike to see what the shops near me find out, or wait and just go to t-town and hope for a sweet deal.

BlastRadius
09-17-04, 01:38 AM
The Pacific Bicycle on 4th street in San Francisco has a ton of 2005 Pistas. Looks like the cranks are different, and the white panels are bordered by "World Champion" Rainbow colored stripes.

glomarduck
09-17-04, 06:12 AM
is the paint job somthing like this?

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/heros/moser-ttbike.jpg

Oni
09-17-04, 05:46 PM
I don't know why any of you are supporting the chroming of a bike. Chroming is one of the most horribly environmentally destructive processes used in the bike industry, right after Titanium mining. Bicycles are supposed to be a "green industry" that's why you should all feel proud to not create pollution and waste, chroming just ruins that. besides, chrome is ugly as F*ck and shiny things get stolen quicker.

x2mars
09-17-04, 07:38 PM
no kiddin, huh....did not know that. the chrome one i saw looked great, but today a black pista with red lettering blew by me and my pedicab today on the park loop. the black with red was killer.

gen129ss
09-17-04, 08:19 PM
I think the black is the '03 model. It is a much nicer looking bike. I think the black with the celest. green would look killer.

sxe fbm rider
09-17-04, 08:47 PM
The 2003 is grey.. the black with red is 2002

Jose Cuervo
09-18-04, 04:36 PM
You guys are nuts. I think the chrome 04's are beautiful. Bling Bling baby!

Cynikal
09-18-04, 05:47 PM
Chrome is destructive? Cool, I'll run out and chrome everything on my Hummer!!! I'll stop at the store on the way home and fill the trunk with veal. mmmmmmmmm!

goatmeal
09-18-04, 06:56 PM
Dont forget the first of the current pistas was black with celeste in 2001, that's a nice looking bike. Though I like the 02 red version the best, the chrome just looks cheesy.

wildjim
09-20-04, 03:29 AM
Bianchi 2005 120 Years

I just bought a Bianchi Pista 2005.

The Frame is CHROME! White Label with Black Bianchi Writing and World Cup Color Stripes circling tube at ends of labels. The hubs are changed, extremely smooth! and rear is fixed on both sides - Sugino RD Crank(Silver) - Bianchi Deda "Track" Handlebar(White Bianchi Cork Tape) - Alexrims AT400(Silver) 32 Hole, Laced 3X with Butted Spokes - WTB Camino Tires(Black/Gray) - VP Components SPD Pedals(Silver) - Cane Creek Aheadset VP-A34C - KMC Chain(Black) - The Bianchi Seat Post(Silver) has Bianchi written in Black and a small Celeste Stripe. The Stem and Bottom Bracket are unknown to me at this time(Silver). The Seat is a WTB Rocket V(Silver).

A few nice upgrades for 2005?

The Bianchi representative said that they will publish the specifications on their Web Site next month. (October 2004)

I would prefer the Celeste Frame color and Mavic Rims. . . Maybe in 2006?

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=16581&stc=1

glomarduck
09-20-04, 05:52 AM
Pictures people pictures

South Fulcrum
09-20-04, 06:29 AM
Pictures people pictures

Yeah! WTF

allikzar
09-20-04, 11:34 AM
We need to see some pictures.

The seat off my '04 was the first thing to go.

jukt
09-20-04, 03:25 PM
It is painted, not chromed.

Helloooo !!!!

wildjim
09-20-04, 05:07 PM
It is painted, not chromed.

Helloooo !!!!

I am not too familar with the exact process; but the frame appears to be chrome?

andrew young
09-20-04, 05:14 PM
i have not seen them yet, although i still have my eyes on the '04 models.
Very curious though about the new models...

andrew young
09-20-04, 05:18 PM
Man, some interesting specs. does anyone know of some bike shops here in minne-apple-less that might have 'em? just curious....

glomarduck
09-20-04, 05:22 PM
thats a hot ass bike I really want one

wildjim
09-20-04, 05:23 PM
Man, some interesting specs. does anyone know of some bike shops here in minne-apple-less that might have 'em? just curious....

I ordered the Bicycle 5 weeks ago from Bianchi

glomarduck
09-20-04, 05:56 PM
funny the paint job is the same exact thing as the moser tt bike I posted on the last page

HereNT
09-20-04, 07:34 PM
Can somebody post some ******** PICTURES ALREADY!?!?!?!

Um, there's a small one in the bike pics thread...

labratmatt
09-20-04, 08:22 PM
um...check post #27 of THIS thread.

Top to bottom, left to right, form letters to words, words to sentances... (Tommy Boy)

dgs
09-20-04, 10:55 PM
um...check post #27 of THIS thread.

Top to bottom, left to right, form letters to words, words to sentances... (Tommy Boy)

Not fair. that post was edited after I posted. The picture wasn't there initially. I am not dumb. Weep.

Oni
09-26-04, 02:51 AM
chrome is still ugly and you're all still contributing to the destruction of all that is holy.
~Oni

wildjim
09-27-04, 03:28 AM
chrome is still ugly and you're all still contributing to the destruction of all that is holy.
~Oni

I somewhat agree as it wasn't my color of choice. Although it doesn't appear to be Chrome from a distance of 5 feet or more, it appears to be Blue. Anyway it seems to have the best specifications to satisfy my curiosity of a Track/Fixed Gear Bicycle.

I would have preferred the 2001 color scheme of Black with Celeste Lettering. I really wanted a Celeste Bianchi Pista.

BlastRadius
09-27-04, 08:32 AM
I thought the "chrome" on the Pista is just polished steel with clearcoat over it.
You could strip the clearcoat and paint it Celeste I suppose.

Anyway, is the bottom bracket square-taper with those Sugino cranks? Hardly an upgrade.

wildjim
09-27-04, 09:55 AM
I thought the "chrome" on the Pista is just polished steel with clearcoat over it.
You could strip the clearcoat and paint it Celeste I suppose.

Anyway, is the bottom bracket square-taper with those Sugino cranks? Hardly an upgrade.

The finish appears to be "Chrome"

I would not alter the stock finish. I'll just wait for a new model with the Celeste painted finish.

The bottom bracket seems to be Square Taper as is my 1981 Peugeot and 2003 Cannondale with Campagnolo Record components. I also own a few other bicycles with Shimano Ultegra Octalink Bottom Brackets. I can't notice a difference between Square Taper or Splined BB spindles while pedaling.

I have not had a problem with Square Taper Spindles. I also noticed that Alessandro Petacchi (World Top Sprinter) is using the Campagnolo Record Alloy Square Taper Crank this year (2005) as the newer carbon cranks (FSA) (Campagnolo) were failing for him and some other top level sprinters.

bostontrevor
09-27-04, 12:00 PM
Yeah, there's nothing terrible about square taper spindles. Hell, Phil Wood doesn't even make a splined bottom bracket. If there was truly something magical about it, I would think Phil would make it.

There are a few problems with ST: cranks can be a challenge to torque just right. Too loose and you can round them out as they shift around, too tight and they can walk up the spindle or crack. They can be a pain to get cranks off. I've never done any work on a splined BB, so I can't say for sure, but as far as I know, they have no taper, so those issues go away.

I suspect that Octalink was a pure marketing ploy. What better way to lock you into the Shimano world than with a BB/crankset that only work with other Shimano gear? Ok, that's not entirely true. They'd be more than happy to license it to a 3rd party manufacturer for a price. All of this was predicated on some dodgy arguments that didn't really amount to enough of a difference to make it worth changing a decades old standard.

ISIS is a response to Octalink. It's still snake oil, but at least it's non-proprietary snake oil.

Meanwhile, I can get square taper stuff at nearly all levels of cost and quality and they play just fine with different components (obviously I can't get ST 1-piece cranksets).

danielmolloy
09-27-04, 06:05 PM
The white panel with black letters looks much better than last year's model. I think with a seat change the bike actually looks pretty good. I'd like to know who makes the hubs though. But no matter how cool the pista is, my old steel ex pro track bike is better!

BlastRadius
09-27-04, 08:52 PM
I don't dislike square-taper, in fact I have a bike with Dura-Ace 7410 square-taper and a Bianchi Axis with a generic no-name (probably) square-taper BB. The Dura-Ace BB is awesome; light and strong. The no-name Bianchi OEM spec'd on the Axis however flexed like crazy, enough to cause derailer cage rubbing in out-of-the-saddle hammering. I suspect the BB they spec'd on the '05 Pista is no better. At least with the ISIS crank and BB, there is a minimum stiffness that comes with a hollow billet spindle.

wildjim
09-28-04, 03:39 AM
I don't dislike square-taper, in fact I have a bike with Dura-Ace 7410 square-taper and a Bianchi Axis with a generic no-name (probably) square-taper BB. The Dura-Ace BB is awesome; light and strong. The no-name Bianchi OEM spec'd on the Axis however flexed like crazy, enough to cause derailer cage rubbing in out-of-the-saddle hammering. I suspect the BB they spec'd on the '05 Pista is no better. At least with the ISIS crank and BB, there is a minimum stiffness that comes with a hollow billet spindle.

In you much negativity I sense?

I don't notice any flexing at all when climbing or sprinting. You pedal and it goes. That is comparing it to the Campagnolo Record or Shimano Ultregra it feels equally as stiff. All the components seem of high quality; especially the Bianchi hubs which are the smoothest I've felt.

It's my first Bianchi and I can actually say that I am pleased with the 2005 Bianchi Pista. I would buy it again and may buy another Bianchi Pista next year if a Celeste Color Version is made. I think that it's a great value for the price.

BlastRadius
09-28-04, 09:12 AM
In you much negativity I sense?

I don't notice any flexing at all when climbing or sprinting. You pedal and it goes. That is comparing it to the Campagnolo Record or Shimano Ultregra it feels equally as stiff. All the components seem of high quality; especially the Bianchi hubs which are the smoothest I've felt.

It's my first Bianchi and I can actually say that I am pleased with the 2005 Bianchi Pista. I would buy it again and may buy another Bianchi Pista next year if a Celeste Color Version is made. I think that it's a great value for the price.

Nah, just frustrated with Bianchi a bit. Too many cut corners at a premium price, like the '04 Axis. The Pista is priced OK though. I built a Soma Rush but it would have been less costly going with a Pista.