Classic & Vintage - What would you do about this 86 Team Fuji?

Im not sure if this thread should belong in the appraisal section or not, so mods can move it if they feel it belongs there.

So im in the process of cleaning and rebuilding this 1986 team fuji. Well I was going to keep it for myself but I got the trek now and I know im keeping the trek honestly I would keep both but my apartment is getting way to small. As im mostly asking the question what would you do?

The only things I have done to it was clean parts and soak the frame to get all the rust off and sprayed with framesaver and also put new bearings in the bottom bracket and headset.

It still needs tires, tubes, cables, bar wrap, and bearings for the wheels, I would keep them but they where sticky when I would spin the wheels, and I need to find replacements for the hoods.

What I want to know is what would you do? I could get it running and flip it in the end, but I know that im not going to make much which is fine. I know how we are all about keeping it original but what if I was to part it out.

Right now im pretty unsure of what to do next.
Any suggestions would be helpful.

Do you have fun building ? if you enjoy the process then build it and flip it. Always a good learning experience. =If it feels like a chore then just either list it as is as a project build or part it out if you think youll make more on the parts (that should be easy enough to determine).

You can sell it to me for $50! :D

Put it in storage somewhere come back to it later, or sell it and focus on that nice Trek and getting it road going.
Sometimes decisions are clearer once a desired project is done.

Is this the blue and yellow or black and pink?

If the latter and 58cm we could talk...

Its to small for you Knatfull.

@WNG The only thing is the walls are closing in on me, my wife and daughter in the 2 bedroom apartment.

Grrr :)

Grrr :)

Sorry Keith, but :lol:. I certainly don't blame you for trying.

Project bikes sell cheap, real cheap. If you are really good at managing parts spending, you could probably finish that bike for about $40, and get $100 to $150 more for it. The choice is yours.

jamesj's problem is logistics. Space is a premium. I sympathize after coming from a tight 2-bedroom condo in the middle of Boston. Out here in the desert, I sure miss having a basement. I'm already running short on storage space.

@ khatfull
It is blue and yellow. ;)

@jamesj
Well should you decide to free yourself of it, give me a shout. IIRC, it was in my size. Maybe I'll sell the Prelude project bike since it's a bit big at 57cm.

Yep thats the problem, to tight a space for to many bikes...

but here is what i got so far.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/IMG_6181.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/IMG_6154.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/IMG_6182.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/IMG_6158.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/IMG_6156.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/IMG_6164.jpg

You have really made that look good. But I can relate to the "no space" problem. So you you should finish it up and sell it, or trade it away for what you need to finish that Trek.

I don't know what you need, but I have a Nishiki with dent in the top tube that I was considering stripping for parts. I have a bunch of other stuff as well. Just tell me what you need. . . .

Jared

the nishiki:

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt327/oldarizona/Nishiki%20Tri%20A/DSC_0204Large.jpg

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt327/oldarizona/Nishiki%20Tri%20A/DSC_0210Large.jpg

I still think you should consider holding onto it. Too purdy. Hang it up as artwork for a while. ;)
Darn looks like it's too small for me, I take a 54-55cm seat tube.

I still think you should consider holding onto it. Too purdy. Hang it up as artwork for a while. ;)
Darn looks like it's too small for me, I take a 54-55cm seat tube.

Yea, that Team is a gem .. I don't think I've ever seen one with such nice original paint.

Scott

Yeah it is a decent frame.
the only thing that was wrong with it cosmetically was it had some rust on the chrome here and there. There still is a tiny pin prick spot on the cable guide but nothing serious, and the "F" on the fork crown wouldn't get clean it is dark inside the letter, and the paint on the left side of the frame is sun burned. someone must have had it up against a wall and let the sun get to it. It doesn't look shiny like the other side, it is dull now. there was some rust in the bottom bracket but it cleaned out with a oxalic acid bath. The decals are a bit messed up the top coat on the decals was peeling off, I was actually going to run finger nail clear coat over the decals to stop them from peeling again.

Last night i started cleaning the bearings, i was able to pull off the seal and started scrubbing the bearings with wd-40 and then soap and water. Big improvement on those, now just to put them back in the wheels!






Yea, that Team is a gem .. I don't think I've ever seen one with such nice original paint.

Scott

I have an 86 Team, Black and Pink, 54cm. That's a really nice bike. I've been promising myself I would build it up as a brifter bike, but haven't gone there yet. It's one of the lightest vintage bikes I have weighing in at under 21 lbs. I'm biased, but I'd find a way to keep it.

@ sjpitts: Does the dent in the top tube just bother you because it's not perfect? FWIW, that dent is a non-factor in my book. Nice bike.

@ sjpitts: yeah that nishiki is pretty nice...
love the colors.

@roccobike nice i like the black and pink 80's retro colors!

so i have a question the brake levers had the original hoods on them but not they are falling apart. what would fit these?



http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/brake.jpg

so i have a question the brake levers had the original hoods on them but not they are falling apart. what would fit these?


They look to be a copy of Campy SR. I'm restoring a late 70s Competition G.S. for a friend that came equipped with Shimano 600 brakes/levers. The 600 levers were also SR copies, I believe. I ordered these (http://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi?d=single&c=Brake&sc=Lever%20Hoods&tc=Campagnolo&item_id=EA-BHNRG&id=582710724051) a few days ago. When they arrive I'll report back on how they fit.

They look to be a copy of Campy SR.

+1

I cannot confirm that they truly are a copy, but they do look it and that would make sense if Superbe hoods were a step above and another copy. If that is the case, A'me hoods seem to do the trick on my Superbe levers.

Thanx for the help everyone.

these are the hoods that i pulled off the brake levers.
i don't think the ones ColonelJLloyd posted will work since the have the whole in the top.

do they make a generic version with no holes in them?

here are the ones i have right now.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/hoods.jpg

Thanx for the help everyone.

these are the hoods that i pulled off the brake levers.
i don't think the ones ColonelJLloyd posted will work since the have the whole in the top.

do they make a generic version with no holes in them?

Are they aero levers? If so try these:
http://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi?d=single&c=Brake&sc=Lever%20Hoods&tc=Dia%20Compe&item_id=LS-2152RB&id=129222631946

@old fat guy yeah they are the aero levers thanx.

i was thinking those but wasnt to sure.

i don't think the ones ColonelJLloyd posted will work since the have the whole in the top.

do they make a generic version with no holes in them?


I didn't realize your levers were aero. That said, the hole wouldn't keep them from "working". :)

I took a few phone photos of the "generic" hoods from Loose Screws. The lever arm needed to be removed to install them without putting too much stress on the hood. I removed the lever arm, sprayed a Simple Green solution in the hood and slid the housing part of the lever in from the rear of the hood. I pushed the housing through the front of the hood to the point where the hinge pin that holds the lever arm could be accessed and reattached the arm. They're not as nice looking or feeling as the new Dia Compe hoods, but they're what I could find.
http://gallery.me.com/justinhughes/100082/My%20Photo/web.jpg?ver=12799070970001http://gallery.me.com/justinhughes/100082/My%20Photo_1/web.jpg?ver=12799071220001http://gallery.me.com/justinhughes/100082/My%20Photo_2/web.jpg?ver=12799071370001http://gallery.me.com/justinhughes/100082/My%20Photo_3/web.jpg?ver=12799071530001http://gallery.me.com/justinhughes/100082/My%20Photo_4/web.jpg?ver=12799071810001

Any NOS Ame, Dia Compe, Suntour, aero hood will fit. Shimano style aero hoods have slight difference around the lever cut out. Won't fit perfect.
I'd give the ones OFG (Old Fast Guy) ;)
linked a try, also the black ones from Nasbar for their cheap aero levers will fit.

The ones I linked to will work fine. I had about three sets on hand, and just used one set on a pair of Shimano 600's as shown in the Colonel's pics. I heated a nail punch to make a hole in the top and that worked just fine, too.

Cane Creek hoods will also work. Their levers are practically Diacombe copies

Cane Creek hoods will also work. Their levers are practically Diacombe copiesCane Creek hods will work, but the fit is horrid, and eventually they will split where the lever underneath constantly rubs on the hood. Fine for a flipper, I'd spring the extra $10 for a keeper.

I'd still send it to khatfull,
let his OCFujiD finish it up for you,
then reclaim it before it's unuseful size makes him crazy. er.

Cane Creek hoods will also work. Their levers are practically Diacombe copies
They are Dia Compe copies. However, the OP's Suntour levers are not.

Thanx for the help everyone.

I finished cleaning everything, now comes the putting it back together.

Currently i'm putting the axles back in the wheels, im not to sure how to do it with a QR i read on sheldon brown its a bit different, thats what i'm attempting tomorrow.
does anyone recommend any tires for the wheels? It had a 700x25c on it before. Im thinking all black tires, not to expensive but decent.

so thats the plan so far. And i plan on keeping it for now. Im getting excited thinking about riding it!

Guess what guys i think im moving in about a couple of months and im going o have room to store this machine!!!

im keeping it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac

Guess what guys i think im moving in about a couple of months and im going o have room to store this machine!!!

im keeping it!

The greatest reason in the world to move............more bikes......

Build it up as originally as possible, and then ride the heck out of it for the next twenty years. That's what I would do.

Well you beat me to it. I was going to demand you keep it otherwise, you would later regret it. I sure like my Ironman and I am guessing they are similar.

Guess what guys i think im moving in about a couple of months and im going o have room to store this machine!!!

im keeping it!
Yeah I was getting ready to tell you that you need to get that thing assembled and put a week or two's worth of miles on it before you sell it. So far every better fuji I have been on rides just a little nicer then a comparable Trek. ;) That said some treks are very nice. Wish I could find a $50 club in my size....The Lotus would have to go LOL.
Need more bikes!

Hey all does anyone have any recommendations on tires?

the tires need replacing before they had dry rotted 700x25c on the wheels just need tires now.

I just got the hoods and put them on the levers, man was it a tough fight but they fit perfectly, there is a tiny pin prick tear in the top portion that im going to seal up with some super glue, and im going to have to trim them to fit as they are a little longer than the older suntour hoods. Other than that i think they will look good on the bike.

Again any recommendations on tires?

I have run the Continental Ultra Sports on a few bikes and liked them fine for a Budget tire (REI has them $20 each). No complaints out of them.

Just put a set of Continental Gator Skins on my commuter and really liking them but Double the price.

I am about to try out a set of Gum wall Michelin Erilium 2 on my Lotus looking for a decent budget gum wall. Not mounted yet so no comment on the ride. Look good though. Liked thise becasue of the Red stripe matching the decals on the bike.
http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_info.php?products_id=422727

I would be very temped to put a set of Yellow Continental Grand Prix 4000's or simular on that bike if it was mine and I had some cash in my pocket.
http://www.rei.com/product/784576 ;)

I've just ordered a pair of these (http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Schwalbe_Schwalbe_Lugano_Road_Tyre/5360042613)... which seem good as a budget tire and come in a blue variant.

I am in the UK but they do ship to the USA although I don't know how long that'd take.

Great looking bike though... I cannot blame you for keeping it!

Yep thats the problem, to tight a space for to many bikes...

but here is what i got so far.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/IMG_6181.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/IMG_6154.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/IMG_6182.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/IMG_6158.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/IMG_6156.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/biosensor/IMG_6164.jpg


Fap, fap, fap

George Carlin... :D

-Kurt

I had to do a search on what "FAP" was. it made me laugh.....

and George Carlin was the best!

Hey all does anyone have any recommendations on tires?

the tires need replacing before they had dry rotted 700x25c on the wheels just need tires now.
As much as I like yellow, I'd go with the blue stripes....

Cheap: Hutchinson Equinox, roll nice, not heavy, pretty and cheap.
Mid: Kenda has some mid models that are not bad at all.
Upper: Vittoria Rubino or Mich Pro Race 3's. (in blue or yellow or one of each)

If you spend the money on Conti's, I recommend the Grand Prix 4000 in yellow, or the Attack/Force pair in yellow.

As much as I like yellow, I'd go with the blue stripes....

Cheap: Hutchinson Equinox, roll nice, not heavy, pretty and cheap.
Mid: Kenda has some mid models that are not bad at all.
Upper: Vittoria Rubino or Mich Pro Race 3's. (in blue or yellow or one of each)

If you spend the money on Conti's, I recommend the Grand Prix 4000 in yellow, or the Attack/Force pair in yellow.

Thanx for the suggestions all..

Im really having a hell of a time adjusting the bearings on the wheels. Im not sure if i'm doing it right, I was able to find some washers to put on the quick release and from what i have read i put the weight on the axle, and this is supposed to simulate what it would be in the frame. am i correct on this? Then i can go ahead and adjust the tension on the bearings, leaving a little play right?
I even put a screw on the end to simulate the pendulum effect it rolled till it got to the 6 o'clock position.

Am i missing something in doing this?
Honestly it feel like im not doing it right for whatever reason.