Classic & Vintage - CL ****blocked

Please pardon my french. This beautiful, beautiful Masi I found on CL with a Campagnolo C-Record groupset and delta brake calipers was going for $75. Apparently the dude just found it on his rental property.

Then some guy named John apparently emails the guy, tells him it's worth more, and suddenly the guy gets dollar signs in his eyes and raises the price by over a factor of 20.

http://austin.craigslist.org/bik/1855546129.html

ARGH! The fool didn't even know the beauty of what he had!!

Oh well, ........getting the chance to buy a Masi like that for crazy low prices is a long shot for anyone anyway. It was bound to happen that way as many are always looking for Masis out there, so he ws bound to find out.
You have a better chance of snagging something listed erroneously under a wrong or misspelled brand name.
C'est La Vie!

Chombi

You have a better chance of snagging something listed erroneously under a wrong or misspelled brand name.
C'est La Vie!


C'est La Vie indeed! I will settle knowing that I've already had one great deal come through. Sometimes they only come once in a lifetime.

Seems he's listing a fair price now, but is his suggesting people should bid on it kosher on CL?

Sorry to hear about that but the seller says it's a 52 inch frame so it probably doesn't fit you. :)

Seems he's listing a fair price now, but is his suggesting people should bid on it kosher on CL?

I think technically, anything goes on CL. I've got great respect for people who honor the first price they name and the first person who responds, but I think a good number of people are a little less patient. And at the very least, there are quite a few "make me an offer" posts, which seems just like a silent auction.


Sorry to hear about that but the seller says it's a 52 inch frame so it probably doesn't fit you. :)

Haha, that's true. I'm more curious to know how you know my frame size, Ranman .:wtf:

Nice of you to respect the fact that he didn't know what he had and were willing to pretty much steal it from him.

Poor you. I really feel bad for you.:cry:

I tend to put "make me an offer" in my C/L posts, but only because I'm not 100% set on my price. If somebody shows up with a reasonable offer, BAM, sold. Even if it was less money. I sold a light on C/L last week for $40, I had it listed for $50, but the dude who inquired about it worked about 6 miles from me, I drove over, exchanged money and bought some lunch.
But people who insist on making it a bidding war have issues. Some people, if they get the slightest little inkling that it's valuable flip out decide they want top dollar. I just don't get that. You put no value on it before, why's it different now that somebody thinks it is?
Meh... people.
-Gene-

I saw it listed at $75 and figured it was a troll


I'm still not convinced it's not






either way, you're out nothing

I saw it listed at $75 and figured it was a troll


I'm still not convinced it's not





either way, you're out nothing

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But people who insist on making it a bidding war have issues. Some people, if they get the slightest little inkling that it's valuable flip out decide they want top dollar. I just don't get that. You put no value on it before, why's it different now that somebody thinks it is?


Concurred. I'm not always set on price either, so most of the times I'll just do as you did and add an OBO to my price, making clear. That's kind of what irks me in bidding wars, that there's no understanding of why the thing is worth something.


Nice of you to respect the fact that he didn't know what he had and were willing to pretty much steal it from him.

Point taken, though my friends and I each offered him more than he was asking for the bike (just not $1725 more...). Please, no sarcasm next time though, I get enough of that on the unfriendly non-BF side of the internet as it is.

Point taken, though my friends and I each offered him more than he was asking for the bike (just not $1725 more...). Please, no sarcasm next time though, I get enough of that on the unfriendly non-BF side of the internet as it is.

Then don't title your post with an obscenity, and I'll temper the sarcasm.

Did you you offer him $800, or $200? The former is reasonable, the latter is still theft.

There is no "John"; he's messing with your head.

Seems he's listing a fair price now, but is his suggesting people should bid on it kosher on CL?

Isn't that what OBO means?

Then don't title your post with an obscenity, and I'll temper the sarcasm.

Point taken. I thought the star would be enough, but if not, I'll make sure to leave it out then.

Isn't that what OBO means?

I think OBO means more that you can underbid, as opposed to an auction, where you can forseeably keep raising the price.

Point taken. I thought the star would be enough, but if not, I'll make sure to leave it out then.

I laughed

+10 Typical Craigs List behavior. Many people selling on C/L are selling stuff because they need money now. When they find out what they have is worth a lot more than they thought, they often will raise the price.

Part of doing business on C/L. We are all OK when we snag outstanding deals, and we are all bummed when they disappear, or the terms change.

OP,

I was C-blocked recently as well by one of our own:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?644346-Please-help-me-buy-this-Mondia-Special&highlight=mondia+special

ugh. I feel your pain.

I think OBO means more that you can underbid, as opposed to an auction, where you can forseeably keep raising the price.

I agree that OBO usually translates to "Thats my price but feel free to offer me less".....but OBO does stand for Or Best Offer. To me, if I'm the seller, the Best offer is the highest....far be it from me to interrupt a bidding war between two bike nuts who both want my bike.

Thats like 2 girls arguing over who gets to take me home at the end of the night....it never happens and if it does I'm holding out for the best offer :lol:

hahaha I totally saw that on CL today too...oh well =[

I was C-blocked recently as well by one of our own:


That sucks man. I think C-blocking may be a bit strong. Really, I just feel let down - had my hopes up - but in the end, it's the seller's right to do as he/she'd like after all.


Thats like 2 girls arguing over who gets to take me home at the end of the night....it never happens and if it does I'm holding out for the best offer :lol:

I would make a crass remark here concerning a compromise involving both of them, but I think I've already maxed out my vulgar talk for the day.

So people leave $2000 bikes when they move out of $600/mo apts?
Yeah,I do that all the time.
This guy is just foolin' with a bunch of "greedy" flippers.

So people leave $2000 bikes when they move out of $600/mo apts?
Yeah,I do that all the time.
This guy is just foolin' with a bunch of "greedy" flippers.

It could be even more nefarious that that - It's equally likely that it's hot. (Don't dismiss the idea of someone blatantly listing a stolen item on CL.)

It could be even more nefarious that that - It's equally likely that it's hot. (Don't dismiss the idea of someone blatantly listing a stolen item on CL.)

That's possible, though this is one very very unique and easily identifiable stolen bike if that's true...

That's possible, though this is one very very unique and easily identifiable stolen bike if that's true...

Often these guys are not mental giants - Trust me, the jails are full of them. (The smart ones are probably stealing millions and sipping Margaritas).

So people leave $2000 bikes when they move out of $600/mo apts?
Yeah,I do that all the time.
This guy is just foolin' with a bunch of "greedy" flippers.

Well, Many a person had been known to leave to do things like go to war and leave his/her treasures with love ones that do not know anything about them.
In the late 70's My dad bought a close to mint 1955 MGA roadster from an old lady that had it stored under blankets in her garage for many years after her son, the owner left for Vietnam. Yes, he did not come back. She did not know how to price the classic car and simply asked my dad what he can offer her for it. My dad was able to buy the almost mint roadster from her for a very good but also very fair price. Anyone else selling such a thing might have been greedy and held off for much higher inlated prices. Who knows, a similar situation can certainly happen with bikes too.

Chombi

... a close to mint 1955 MGA roadster from an old lady that had it stored under blankets in her garage for many years after her son, the owner left for Vietnam. Yes, he did not come back...

... Chombi - I have the feeling that the situation with this seller is not at all like that poor womans. -Granted, it may NOT be hot, but I really don't think he has any emotional attachment to it and either way, he probably did get it for nothing.

... Chombi - I have the feeling that the situation with this seller is not at all like that poor womans. -Granted, it may NOT be hot, but I really don't think he has any emotional attachment to it and either way, he probably did get it for nothing.

No, I'm not saying it's the same situation, just saying that "treasures" can be still be found in the least obvious places once in a while because of different situations we might not think of most of the time, so we should not dismiss accounts of things like this as probable hoaxes or stunts by people right away.....that's all...

Chombi

No, I'm not saying it's the same situation, just saying that "treasures" can be still be found in the least obvious places once in a while because of different situations we might not think of most of the time, so we should not dismiss accounts of things like this as probable hoaxes or stunts by people right away.....that's all...

Chombi
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I agree that OBO usually translates to "Thats my price but feel free to offer me less".....but OBO does stand for Or Best Offer. To me, if I'm the seller, the Best offer is the highest....far be it from me to interrupt a bidding war between two bike nuts who both want my bike.

Thats like 2 girls arguing over who gets to take me home at the end of the night....it never happens and if it does I'm holding out for the best offer :lol:

Well said.

Seems he's listing a fair price now, but is his suggesting people should bid on it kosher on CL?

Yes, it's allowed. I've seen it a few times in the Raleigh area. It works if you've got a couple of bidders willing to pay more than its worth, but backfires most of the time. One guy finally put a price on his bike and relisted when the "bids" didn't come close to what he wanted. It hurt his final price because some folks were fed up with his antics. People forget, this isn't ebay, you don't have an international audience of hundreds or thousands. There's maybe a dozen buyers. If they get PO'd, the lister lands up selling the item for less than what they should have gotten. I always list at a fair price and always sell any bike I list.

Yes, it's allowed.

Actually, sellers on CL must post a price. It is in the TOS.

...craigslist is not an auction site. If you have something to offer, please post a set price. Please do not scalp or solicit bidding contests on craigslist, and do not link to offsite auctions on eBay or elsewhere.

http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/faq#prohibited

Hey, you never know, the landlord guy could have been out a few months rent with a damaged unit full of hazmat. These are tough times. CL is business, and that business means more than making a flip so you can get some cherished part that is 20+ years old to some people. My neighbor hasn't worked in over a year and is hocking bikes.
Riding is way more fun than flipping anyway. and flipping is fun!

CL is a hit or miss world. I've had really good luck (Raleigh DL-1 for $100) and less than good luck (ad for a $20 Peugeot UO-8 I responded to turned out to be a "misprint"-- $200 UO-8, and thus a no-go).