Mountain Biking - Confused about how to J-Hop
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09-15-04, 09:35 PM
Well im sure all of you know it by different names but since i have seen J-hop i will just use that :)
I can bunny hop a bit less than a foot (havent been trying for very long and havent measured it) but when i do it both wheels come up at the same time. I have been trying to do it so the front wheel comes up first then the back wheel but i cant seem to pull it off. I was under the impression that it was meant to be done by pulling up the front then sort of jumping and pushing forward to level the bike out.
Unfortunately when i do i go up like i am about to go in to a wheelie and then when i jump off it just pushes the front of the bike back down. Does anyone have any advice because being able to do this well would really help me clear some obstacles on my local trails.
09-15-04, 09:39 PM
I am also learning how to do this, and I hate not being able to hop over stuff. My friend that I ride with can do this quite well, and he pretty much says that you lift, and then at the right moment you have to push forward to make the back tire come up. He says jumping like this on a MTB is nothing like a BMX and it actually has nothing to do with the legs... I hope that helps.
09-15-04, 09:55 PM
Thanks that does sort of help, i think i just need to keep practicing until i can get the hang of it. Especially being able to lift the back without dropping the front down.
09-15-04, 11:11 PM
there have been a lot of posts about how to do bunnyhop properly here on the forum. i'm sure if you use the search function you'll find quite a bit of info on how to do it. there's also a link to a bmx trick site, i forget the link at the moment, but it's got some good info on how to do them properly.
09-16-04, 06:41 AM
Yeah i did do a search and did read some of the old topics but it didnt really help, and i wasnt going to go the bmx section because a few people have told me that its a different style for a mountain bike due to size. Although i have just found one i missed before by hooligan... I might see if that one helps
09-16-04, 09:22 AM
i wasnt going to go the bmx section because a few people have told me that its a different style for a mountain bike due to size. Although i have just found one i missed before by hooligan... I might see if that one helps
i just recently got the "real" bunny hop down and now just have to really work on height and perfecting the technique. the tips that helped me the most were from that bmx trick sight i mentioned above. i believe the guy who runs the site posts here on bikeforums.
i haven't tried bunnyhopping on a bmx yet (i'm seriously considering getting one to play around on though), but from what i gather, the only real difference between the two would be that the movements on the mtb would be more exaggerated.
if you know how to manual, or can get the front wheel up as if you were going to manual, learning to bunny hop shouldn't be too difficult. what you do is lean back (not too far back), while keeping your knees bent and arms straight, pulling on your bars to bring the front end up. when your wheel is at the desired height, straighten your legs quickly and point your toes downward to help grip the pedals. doing this should be enough to hop over curbs. to get the rear up higher, just curl your legs once up in the air and this should pull your rear up further.
hope this helps.
09-16-04, 03:50 PM
Well Ive been trying to learn a little urban rising and i just finished learnning a pretty decent j-hop. Heres how i do it: I stand up with my weight back and do a little manual and then once the front tire is fairly high I lean forward and jump up. When you jump squeeze your feet into the crank arms and then pull up on the handle bars. Your arms should be almost straight up and down and just pull up to your chest. If thats a little confusing you can talk to me at harescbl905 and ill try to explain better.
09-16-04, 08:01 PM
i'm just learning as well, maybe can do it only about as well as sammy. just thinking physics-wise, the leg curl rasheed mentioned brings the back wheel up higher, shifting the weight forward unweights the back a bit more, and there's where the problem is for the handlebars coming down. i've read that you do one/combo of a few things: "throw" the bike up and forwards using your grip on the handles, and/or pull up on the handlebars. if you dont shift wour weight forward when in the air, you can lift the back wheel by getting a good grip on your handlebars and twisting your wrists forward - basically pivoting the bike in the air with your wrists.
my problem is lifting front properly :P but that's another story
09-16-04, 08:37 PM
One method for clearing obstacles such as logs is a modified "j-hop" (or whatever you're calling it...*shrugs*). The technique involves manualing into the log and just barely setting the front wheel on top of it. At the same time the front wheel touches, you can slightly weight the front wheel and hop/lunge forward while lifting the back wheel and let the front roll over the obstacle. Make sure you shift your weight back at this point so you don't eat it. If you do it right, your rear wheel will just tap the top of the log on your way through.
The key is getting the timing down. Once you become proficient at slower speeds, you can gradually try it faster and faster. As your skills progress (and depending on the size of the log), you will find it unnecessary to touch with the front, and voila, you've hopped it.
As always, practice, practice. Bonus points are given for manualing out the back side. :)
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