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ilikebikes
08-11-10, 06:32 PM
Can anyone here help? I need to replace the cheapo rubber nolleen shocks that those of you in the know....know melt away when they got hot. :twitchy: I've seen these rubber carappy shocks replaced with springs as the shock is the oil damping system (ODS) by Girven so the spring replacement works out perfectly and actually better than the orig rubber crappy shock. So waht I need to know is what size lenth and diameter spring do I need to replace both front and back? Its the same bike pictured below but its green.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/stumpyspic/oldproflex.jpg
I was looking at restoring a proflex a few years back and these guys carried some of the elastomer shocks. http://www.rapiddescentscotland.co.uk/
Other than maybe ask in the mechanics forum, I am out of ideas.
ilikebikes
08-11-10, 06:47 PM
I found a Flea Bay post by these guys in which they mention the shock they are selling is the last of their stock. Heres the main page, thanks for trying dude. =0)
"We used to sell Proflex and K2 parts (1997 to 2010) but now are concentrating on local trails and actually getting out riding! This website continues to keep all the old documentation for our customers and now serves as a trail advocacy blog."
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn53/RubenX_Longwood/Huyndai/IMG_1020.jpg
You gonna need a spring compressor and... oh wait... nevermind
Siu Blue Wind
08-11-10, 08:44 PM
Ruben? Kitchen table????
Geeze Maneeze.
Dannihilator
08-11-10, 08:46 PM
Measure eye to eye and the length of the rubber piece.
bigbenaugust
08-11-10, 09:58 PM
I would have Ruben fix it.
Wordbiker
08-11-10, 10:39 PM
flip it
Dannihilator
08-11-10, 10:41 PM
flip it
Front or Back. It'd actually be pretty hard to flip that given the wheelbase.
ilikebikes
08-11-10, 10:54 PM
flip it
Keepin' it, its the grand-daddy to my carbon K2 ProFlex. ;0)
ilikebikes
08-11-10, 10:56 PM
Measure eye to eye and the length of the rubber piece.
No eye to eye, this bike has an unusual shock that bolts on from underneath, but the elastomer is three inches long if that helps. =0)
DannoXYZ
08-12-10, 12:13 AM
No eye to eye, this bike has an unusual shock that bolts on from underneath, but the elastomer is three inches long if that helps. =0)Yeah, the bottom of the damper is cylindrical and fits into forks that go down to the swingarm. You can use regular dampers with an adapter:
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k316/sammydogg/bike/955_shock.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k316/sammydogg/bike/955_shock.jpg
Look up Risse Racing, I think they can provide the adapter. I'm not sure what kind of increased performance you're looking for, but if you're going to upgrade, might as well go for a damper with adjustments for the following:
1. spring-preload
2. low-velocity compression damping
3. high-velocity compression damping
4. knee-point for compression
5. low-velocity rebound damping
6. high-velocity rebound damping
7. knee-point for rebound
Siu Blue Wind
08-12-10, 07:39 AM
Danno, why do you know everything?
:D
ModoVincere
08-12-10, 07:57 AM
just weld it and turn it into a psuedo hardtail.
dstrong
08-12-10, 04:59 PM
Danno, why do you know everything?
:D
Sometimes I think the same thing.
Hey Danno...What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
ilikebikes
08-12-10, 05:39 PM
Yeah, the bottom of the damper is cylindrical and fits into forks that go down to the swingarm. You can use regular dampers with an adapter:
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k316/sammydogg/bike/955_shock.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k316/sammydogg/bike/955_shock.jpg
Look up Risse Racing, I think they can provide the adapter. I'm not sure what kind of increased performance you're looking for, but if you're going to upgrade, might as well go for a damper with adjustments for the following:
1. spring-preload
2. low-velocity compression damping
3. high-velocity compression damping
4. knee-point for compression
5. low-velocity rebound damping
6. high-velocity rebound damping
7. knee-point for rebound
Thank you Danno, but I went with this instead, works really well and keeps the look of the orig shock 'cept for those pesky melting elastomers! LOL! I just measured the elastomer cups and the lenth of the space left by the elastomers and found a coil spring to fit it. Its the ODS system so it should be fine and dandy! ;0)
The bike
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/stumpyspic/beastlyproflex023.jpg
Melted elastomer all over the tire and wheel
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/stumpyspic/beastlyproflex022.jpg
Melted elastomer on the swing arm
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/stumpyspic/beastlyproflex021.jpg
New coil spring installed on the orig ODS shock. (my handy work!)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/stumpyspic/beastlyproflex020.jpg
New coil again
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/stumpyspic/beastlyproflex019.jpg
Front shock with melted elastomer all over it and everything else! This is what the rear shock looked like!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/stumpyspic/beastlyproflex018.jpg
Siu Blue Wind
08-12-10, 05:50 PM
This is really bad for someone with OCD to see.
ilikebikes
08-12-10, 05:56 PM
I wish I lived next door to you, I would put it on your porch with a note attached to it saying,"Siu, please take care of this bike! It desperately needs your help!" Then I'd ring your door bell and run! ;0)
DannoXYZ
08-13-10, 12:05 PM
Danno, why do you know everything?
:DHeh, heh... I love tinkering with all things mechanical. When I was 4, my mum was quite dismayed that I had disassembled her grandfather clock (well, up to as far as I could reach). However, I ended up putting it all back together and it's still working today. :)
why would your mom care what you did to your great grandfather's clock? Seems like the old guy might have something to say about it though!
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