crosser1978
08-22-10, 10:39 PM
I've been eyeing the Ibis Hakkalugi but wonder if the headtube angle (70.5) and seat tube(73.1) seem a little odd/too relaxed. I wonder if that's going to push my weight far back on the bike. What do you think?
Cyclocross - Ibis Hakkalugi geometry
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fietsbob
08-27-10, 04:05 PM
you talking new or the old one ? for a cross bike it not a bad combo..
seat angle is for power, and the head angle will.if the fork rake/trail is well designed .
for dirt .. which is what Cross racing is, afterall..
weight back on the back wheel is where you get traction.
I dont understand your issue , the chainstays are longer for the fatter tires , and mud clearance
so that takes the wheel back a ways..
it's all about compromises .. angles and lengths change with sizes.
short frame may have to kick the wheel out to get toe overlap cured .
seat angle is for power, and the head angle will.if the fork rake/trail is well designed .
for dirt .. which is what Cross racing is, afterall..
weight back on the back wheel is where you get traction.
I dont understand your issue , the chainstays are longer for the fatter tires , and mud clearance
so that takes the wheel back a ways..
it's all about compromises .. angles and lengths change with sizes.
short frame may have to kick the wheel out to get toe overlap cured .
flargle
08-28-10, 01:14 PM
I've been eyeing the Ibis Hakkalugi but wonder if the headtube angle (70.5) and seat tube(73.1) seem a little odd/too relaxed. I wonder if that's going to push my weight far back on the bike. What do you think?I've been looking at that frame very closely.
I personally think a cross frame ought to be slacker than a road bike. I believe the stock build has a zero setback seatpost, which I would run too.
Here's a good review:
http://taticycles.com/p/375
"As a pure road bike, well, it's not ideal. Novices probably won't notice the difference, but the high bottom bracket -- while terrific for racing and high speed offroad maneuverability, is not your friend when cornering. But then again, I don't anticipate too many folks using one as a dedicated crit machine."
I personally think a cross frame ought to be slacker than a road bike. I believe the stock build has a zero setback seatpost, which I would run too.
Here's a good review:
http://taticycles.com/p/375
"As a pure road bike, well, it's not ideal. Novices probably won't notice the difference, but the high bottom bracket -- while terrific for racing and high speed offroad maneuverability, is not your friend when cornering. But then again, I don't anticipate too many folks using one as a dedicated crit machine."