Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Best frameset in your opinion.

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jslug1234
09-08-10, 09:10 PM
If you could start with any frameset what would it be.
rustybrown
09-08-10, 09:12 PM
This. (http://www.feltbicycles.com/USA/2011/Track/Track-Series/TK1-Frame.aspx)
Crappymonkey
09-08-10, 09:17 PM
I don't know if it's the best but I would totally get this one
http://www.chariandconyc.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/img_0103.jpg
carleton
09-08-10, 09:23 PM
If you could start with any frameset what would it be.
Why do you ask?
Racing? Street riding? Best bang for the buck?
The best race frames are probably the Felt TK1 or LOOK 496/596. Then there are BT, Koga, Tiemeyer etc...I could go on.
Dr. Banzai
09-08-10, 09:28 PM
I don't care what any of you think. My bike fit also favours it.
Cinelli Mash 55cm. I'm building one this week. Frame is sitting behind me and parts are on their way from the UK.
Posting in advance: screw you
:)
TejanoTrackie
09-08-10, 09:28 PM
Custom built.
yobatts
09-08-10, 09:31 PM
was this thread started by jared leto?
yummygooey
09-08-10, 09:31 PM
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb298/YAMAGUCHI_Bicycles/3682377267_32b78dce92_o.jpg
longjohns
09-08-10, 09:34 PM
this. (http://www.dodicicicli.com/collections/frontpage/products/dodici-super-frame)
Squirrelli
09-08-10, 09:44 PM
Best for me is something that I could afford, like the steel Leader or a Sputnik.
Doc, you better have a new bike day thread soon...
Dr. Banzai
09-08-10, 09:57 PM
Dude, I am looking forward to it. Patiently waiting by the door for the parts from the UK.
JohnDThompson
09-08-10, 10:30 PM
Make your own: http://picasaweb.google.com/JohnDThompson/FixedFrame#
PedallingATX
09-08-10, 10:34 PM
njs frames are my fav, but i'm not into having a super high performance track frame; just a pretty one
there's also some nice italian frames i wouldn't kick out of bed...torelli, de rosa, colnago, vintage bianchi, vintage masi, etc
xkillemallx16
09-08-10, 10:40 PM
I like my concept and rush, but I have to give my favorite to lupin's steep frame/woundup fork.
my heart skipped a beat at the sight of that yamaguchi.
But yea.. best frame is custom made.
Everyone will have a different opinion, but I think the best mass-produced / non-custom frameset for the money (and within reason if you're not a professional racer):
Easily T1 or S-Works Langster... The S-Works is lighter but the T1 has a steeper headtube.
The BMC is garbage, it's carbon epoxied to aluminum lugs (one broke in two during a women's race) and sorry but I don't think the cinelli is that great either.
carleton
09-09-10, 08:57 AM
Best non-custom frameset?
Easily T1 or S-Works Langster... The S-Works is lighter but the T1 has a steeper headtube.
The BMC is garbage, it's carbon epoxied to aluminum lugs (one broke in two during a women's race) and sorry but I don't think the cinelli is that great either.
In BMC's defense, no race bike could have survived that particular crash, the way the bike was whipping to the ground with that force.
In BMC's defense, no race bike could have survived that particular crash, the way the bike was whipping to the ground with that force.
Ok, that's true. But does the "technology" not remind you of an updated Allez Epic? I think the durability was one of the reasons QBP stopped carrying them... And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think BMC even makes them anymore?
Also, if you're lucky and can find a 2007 S-Works Langster complete, jump on it - they're typically priced pretty VERY REASONABLY because of age. I got one for $1400 and it came with Zipp 404s, D/A cranks (Omnium's in Japan) and so on...
Bone Machine
09-09-10, 09:28 AM
Love Italian steel
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2689/4101857030_6aa078b4b3.jpg
But way too expensive for me
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/Trx1/beaterrdie.jpg
MINE! cause it was FREE, MADE IN USA, and a SCHWINN
NateRod
09-09-10, 10:15 AM
that yamaguchi is ruined by that fork x stem collabo.
Leukybear
09-09-10, 10:18 AM
Well for street use and since I'm from the bay area, I would go for a custom homegrown Broakland Pipe Bomb...
http://projectfd.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/broakland.jpg
For track use, I would have to go for custom built aswell from Yamaguchi.
squeegeesunny
09-09-10, 10:21 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3586/3380323932_e296bc24df_b.jpg
I dont care if its a rebranded ftp, the color is just too pretty!
otherwise i'd kill for some nice kinfolk frame.
http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2010/05/31/kinfolk_kinfolk-PINP-thumb.jpg
carleton
09-09-10, 10:22 AM
Ok, that's true. But does the "technology" not remind you of an updated Allez Epic? I think the durability was one of the reasons QBP stopped carrying them... And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think BMC even makes them anymore?
I think the BMC Track Machine is great for smaller riders like Shelly Olds/Evans (can't recall which one is her married name), for actual racing. I'm not surprised about people having issues with it. It's definitely not a bike for me. Horses for courses.
Yeah, it's not on their website.
yummygooey
09-09-10, 10:48 AM
Yea the stem deal on the Yamaguchi is pretty ugly, but I dig the frame a lot.
Dr. Banzai
09-09-10, 11:07 AM
I don't think the cinelli is that great either.
I didn't think so until I held the frame/fork in my hands. Then scrutinizing the geometry and my fit sealed the deal. It's a nicely made frame for doing exactly what I do with a fixed.
Recently, I rode a Gazzetta that my friends has and it was a nice ride, looks good etc.
There are five categories for "best frame"
Coffee
Modern Track
Bomber
Vintage
NJS
NinetiesKid
09-09-10, 11:40 AM
what ever frame matches my veeps
clearly, the mercier kilo tt is the best.
whitekimchee
09-09-10, 12:13 PM
Yamaguchi Messenger
Dodici Veloce
NJS
What if one was a roadie (who favors crits) and wanted to get into track racing, say points races? The Felt?
PedallingATX
09-09-10, 01:29 PM
ya prolly the Felt if you are actually track racing
Dr. Banzai
09-09-10, 01:36 PM
What if one was a roadie (who favors crits) and wanted to get into track racing, say points races? The Felt?
My summers are spent ripping around flat farmland as a fixed "roadie" knocking pounds off and building strength. Winters are urban rides and velodrome twice a week. You know my choice.
seau grateau
09-09-10, 02:09 PM
This (http://www.bikeblognyc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/2145976514_9b44affb7f_b.jpg) because it would make me feel like Batman.
longjohns
09-09-10, 02:21 PM
This (http://www.bikeblognyc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/2145976514_9b44affb7f_b.jpg) because it would make me feel like Batman.
that thing is AMAZING.
Scooper
09-09-10, 02:48 PM
Make your own: http://picasaweb.google.com/JohnDThompson/FixedFrame#
That's a really nice photo essay, John. Thanks for the link.
Can I be that yamaguchi? FFS...*unf*
seau grateau
09-09-10, 03:17 PM
The man makes some beautiful frames.
mconlonx
09-09-10, 03:31 PM
One I made myself. I'd take the cash I'd spend on a high end frame, add a bit to it, head out to UBI--or even Yamaguchi--and learn how to roll my own. Come back home, whip out a few more for friends to get some experience, then try to recoup come costs selling frames to others.
Scooper
09-09-10, 03:45 PM
One I made myself. I'd take the cash I'd spend on a high end frame, add a bit to it, head out to UBI--or even Yamaguchi--and learn how to roll my own. Come back home, whip out a few more for friends to get some experience, then try to recoup come costs selling frames to others.
+1
CrockerCock
09-09-10, 07:26 PM
If I could have anything it would definitely be this:
169055
carleton
09-09-10, 11:55 PM
How about this one:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/4945503766_58569167c9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spastica/4945503766/in/set-72157624841516222/)
Sixty Fiver
09-10-10, 12:10 AM
Will be building my own... am looking at some 30's frames for inspiration.
Ken Cox
09-10-10, 10:56 AM
I liked the geometry of the pre-2009 "designed by a chick" Bianchi Pista.
If building a bike today from a commercial frame set, I'd go with a Surly Steamroller for geometry, strength, tire fit, fender fit, quality of design, quality of manufacture and low cost.
If I had a little more money to spend on the frame set, I'd go with a custom frame by Warren Rice (Realm Cycles (http://www.realmcycles.com/)) in Sisters, Oregon.
whitekimchee
09-10-10, 11:39 AM
I liked the geometry of the pre-2009 "designed by a chick" Bianchi Pista.
+1
TejanoTrackie
09-10-10, 12:07 PM
I liked the geometry of the pre-2009 "designed by a chick" Bianchi Pista.
Actually, the sticker says "100% chick designed". I also like the "no brakes" warning sticker.
yummygooey
09-10-10, 12:14 PM
Wait. We're talking about the Pista Concept, right?
TejanoTrackie
09-10-10, 12:29 PM
Wait. We're talking about the Pista Concept, right?
Yeah, I wasn't paying attention. Y'all meant the steel Pista, right?
carleton
09-10-10, 12:43 PM
Wait. We're talking about the Pista Concept, right?
Actually, for a time, the Steel Pista shared the exact same geometry as the Pista Concept. I think this changed in 2007 or 2008 or something. The steel Pista then adopted a more street geometry.
Leukybear
09-10-10, 01:10 PM
Actually, the sticker says "100% chick designed". I also like the "no brakes" warning sticker.
Hmmm it appears my black army lettered '04 lacks this sticker... I have a 7005 aluminium tubing sticker in place of it... :p
CharneK
09-10-10, 01:55 PM
Anything 3rensho, Kalavinka, or Nagasawa. or Gorilla Rocketroll
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt202/CharnekNivek/rocketroll_frame_small.jpg
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