Training & Nutrition - Vegan. Take the poll even if you're not.

I am a vegan and don't think it makes me slower because I just rode 60 miles in 3 hours with about 6,000 ft elevation. Anybody else a vegan?

Your point being?

I have seen some horrible vegan diets (twinkies and sodas), I have seen horrible omnivore ones.

Carnivore? Who just eats meat?
My body has issues digesting meat. Thus. I am a vegetarian and it has not effected my performance one bit. Well... since I am not in constant pain it has helped improve it.
Vegan, vegetarian, omnivore, whatever else are not necessarily the healthiest or least healthiest diet. It is what you eat plain and simple.
Personally, I can't stand many of the preachier holier than thou vegans.

I don't think it matters what you eat as long as you're healthy. There are obviously alternative ways to get what the body needs, just don't tell me what to eat.

I was full vegetarian at one point, now I eat pretty much everything. Typically only once a week red meat, twice a week fish, and maybe once a week chicken. Rest of the time (not much I know) it's tofu or something that's purely vegetables.

I do most of the family cooking. We have one vegetarian (she tried vegan but it didn't work out), two who really want their meat, and me who is trying to be organic, and to reduce meat and to use fish as my primary animal protein. I recently hired a nutrition/health counselor to help me figure out how to please everyone while providing better nutrition, and it has helped. Tough group though. But I'm doing more veggies; grains like Quinoa; things like vegetarian chili that can be available in the fridge. What is working is to prepare something vegetarian (like the chili) and to then cook some meat on the side that can be added by those who have to have it. What's important is to get the right balance of what you need, and to have that be enjoyable. I have trouble doing that without keeping some meat in the picture.

And I guess I'm lucky - the vegans I know are not the least bit preachy.

So a 20mph average with 6k elevation gain? I call BS.

So a 20mph average with 6k elevation gain? I call BS.

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bs is an animal product, so clearly no applicable here.

So a 20mph average with 6k elevation gain? I call BS.

This is why god created Garmin

I eat all natural foods, but I'm not vegetarian... though the only meat I eat is fish and some poultry, very occasionally pork. No red meat.

Vegetarian for many years, with plenty of energy. I find vegan a bit too difficult at this time as bread in it's many forms are a daily food for me that I'd find difficult to replace at the moment.

Vegetarian for many years, with plenty of energy. I find vegan a bit too difficult at this time as bread in it's many forms are a daily food for me that I'd find difficult to replace at the moment.

there's lots of vegan breads available and bagels are very often vegan (although be wary of sesame ones... sometimes they use an egg wash to stick them seeds on)

my solution was to buy a bread machine, though. all the bread i want, fresh first thing in the morning for about 70c-$1/loaf. cannot beat that.

I can't vote for any of those considering you have not listed the most common classification...omnivore.

I've been vegan for about 3 years now. Vegetarian before that. My diet as a vegan is far better than when I was a vegetarian. Namely, it cuts out most junk foods and 'impulse' food. Having some structure can take you a long way. I do not feel it has inhibited my training whatsoever.

I've been vegan for about 3 years now. Vegetarian before that. My diet as a vegan is far better than when I was a vegetarian. Namely, it cuts out most junk foods and 'impulse' food. Having some structure can take you a long way. I do not feel it has inhibited my training whatsoever.

well that will go out the window as soon as you find out that choclate creme oreos are accidentally vegan.

Vegan here. I cook a lot and generally avoid overly processed foods. Make my own veggie burgers, breads, etc.

I'm not a preachy vegan, but if you want to challenge me, I will defend myself. I'll never understand why omnivores feel they need to attack a vegan simply for being vegan. Let it go! I didn't say jack to you about your choices, how 'bout shuttin' up about mine unless you have some thoughtful questions or comments. Hint: "huh huh huh vegetables are what food eats" doesn't qualify.

Also, I'm thankful these aren't in vending machines. I can't get in enough bike riding hours in a day to justify how many I'd shove in my face.

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I never understand why vegetarians are attacked by vegans.
Anyhow, I get those same statements from omnivores as well. If someone ever comes up with an original joke I would have a heart attack.

"Veggies are what real food eats."
Good one. Ha ha. Excuse me while I drop your slow arse.

I'm not voting - the poll does not have an answer for me. I eat vegetarian a few days per week. Vegan meals are not uncommon but recipes are never chosen on the basis of being vegan.

I never understand why vegetarians are attacked by vegans.

I agree. Being a jerk isn't the way to get people to consider vegan foods. Plying them with delicious vegan versions of foods they like though will at least help them realize being vegan isn't twigs and grass and suffering.

I eat all natural foods, but I'm not vegetarian... though the only meat I eat is fish and some poultry, very occasionally pork. No red meat.

Notwithstanding the Pork Council's tagline, I'd consider pork a red meat.

http://www.daylesfordorganic.com/content/ebiz/lightmaker/invt/organicporkchops/Pork_Chop.jpg

Anyway, I clicked "carnivore" on your poll even though I would consider myself an omnivore. I eat animals, plants, and fungi. Often in the same meal. Or on the same pizza.

I tried vegan, man, and I mean tried. Around eight months I tried, actually. Trying anything for eight months, it seems, can get old at around week 4.
That being said, I think the main reason why many people fail going vegan is the adoption of a low fat (>10% fat) program designed to reverse heart disease. While it may be very effective at reversing heart disease, for me, it failed to improve or maintain other aspects of well being that are required for me to enjoy my life and live it to its fullest. I do think a vegan diet higher in fat and protein from unprocessed legumes is much more doable and healthy than one centered on limiting protein and fat in favor of starch as a higher percentage of calories.
I do believe that humans cannot escape their evolutionary history as primarily herbivorous primates. The more we deviate from this path, the more we suffer.

It s not a matter of respect that omnivores don't like vegans. It's a matter of taste. Vegan is rather bland. Hannibal Lecter preferred marbled girls from the Midwest.

I'm a sixth level Vegan. I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.

Well, i've eaten meat all my life but recently have cut right down on it in my diet, focussing on fish and eggs for protein sources. I've noticed my digestion is better, I feel a lot "lighter" and don't get as lethargic. I've noticed I can get away with eating meat with my evening meal with no problems - but eating it during the day affects my energy levels. So given my findings, I think I may make the switch to pesco-vegitarian (just eating fish, eggs). Oh, i've also noticed i'm looking leaner, too - this morning my abs looked a lot more defined.

Fish and birds are animals.

Fish and birds are animals.

Doh... right you are.

It s not a matter of respect that omnivores don't like vegans. It's a matter of taste. Vegan is rather bland. Hannibal Lecter preferred marbled girls from the Midwest.

Actually, many dishes (vegan and vegetarian) are quite tasty. IMHO
For instance, spanikopita. Yum!

Doh... right you are.

Just tweaking you. ;)

I have an acquaintance who describes herself as a vegetarian. Except that she eats fish. And chicken. (I think she considers only mammals to be animals.)

Doh... right you are.

Careful. Being pescotarian is a gateway to becoming an actual vegetarian. :p
I was for a few months but I don't really care for fish either.
Veggies, grains, and what not fuel me up better than meat or fish ever did.

I think the hardest part about eating vegetarian is flipping the mental switch. There are plenty of good eats to choose from. But if you're expecting meat every meal you're expecting meat every meal. I'll eat burgers like Wimpy. But I'm fine with a salad for breakfast (for those who've never tried it...). Then I might go a day or two before meat again.

Careful. Being pescotarian is a gateway to becoming an actual vegetarian. :p
I was for a few months but I don't really care for fish either.
Veggies, grains, and what not fuel me up better than meat or fish ever did.

Well, at the momenent, some days I do 100% meat free. I am fond of fish though and it has health benefits over other forms of meat so I will probably choose to keep it. I've always chosen fish over other meat for a long time. Agree that veggies, grains etc fuel you better! Meat does nothing for me... I remember trying low carb, high protein - oh dear, I felt awful! I had to give it up after a few weeks.

Veggies, grains, and what not fuel me up better than meat or fish ever did.

does that mean you can still eat potato chips, pretzels and those Trader Joe's Lime bars ??? what about dark choco coated cranberries ???

sign me up

There are plenty of crappy foods that are veggie friendly. :p
Mmmm... donuts.

There are plenty of crappy foods that are veggie friendly. :p
Mmmm... donuts.

Coffee and a cinamon swirl... my friday treat :D

Chick-o-sticks (http://www.atkinsoncandy.com/store/products.asp?catid=1)!

There are plenty of crappy foods that are veggie friendly. :p
Mmmm... donuts.

doughnuts are usually deep fried in some sorta animal fat and almost always contain egg or dairy.

however, if you're looking for some serious vegan bad-for-youness, i present the vegan doubledown:

http://vegansaurus.com/post/498511783/vegan-double-down

Nowadays it is mostly hydrogenated vegetable oil. Still bad for you. Hence the reason I buy one at a time.
veggie= can have egg and dairy

however, if you're looking for some serious vegan bad-for-youness, i present the vegan doubledown:

http://vegansaurus.com/post/498511783/vegan-double-down

That makes me sick just looking at it. Ask me after 6 bottles of Leffe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leffe) and I may have a different answer :lol:

I went vegetarian for 6 months and spent that 6 months craving meat. Terrible. I have reduced the amount of meat I eat -- typically at suppertime 3 or 4 times a week.

Very true about some vegetarians and vegans having abysmal diets. I worked with a vegetarian who primarily ate blueberry muffins, potato chips, white wine, iced tea, and cheerios with milk.

About half the vegans I've met drove me around the bend regarding not just food but bees & honey as well as my suede skateboard shoes. The other half were to frail to preach.

Oh! I did meet a nice raw foodie person. She shared her raw almonds with me. I haven't given any thought to a raw food existence except worry that I'd never get to eat hot soup again.

currently vegan doing trying to do about 80% raw like vegan ironman Brenden Brazier. He has a good book out called thrive with meal plans, recipes, etc

another interesting book is the 80/10/10 diet.. Been experimenting with that also ..

its really amazing what some of these endurance athletes are pulling off on raw foods, mainly fruit

I don't care what you eat. I don't care who or what you have sex with. I really don't care what you like to do to amuse yourself with, as long as it is not at my expense. I just find the whole holier than thou and chip on the shoulder attitude annoying.

Loot at the original post; Mr. vegan here assumes that everybody else thinks that him being a vegan is slowing him down. Dude, get over yourself and your diet; nobody cares what you are eating. You are happy? Then I'm happy for you. You seem to get annoyed at people 'judging' you for being a vegan, yet start throwing epithets such as carnivore? Heck, I love meat but I can't eat enough to be labeled a carnivore.

Bottom line, be happy, do what makes you happy, don't worry about what other people think. Unless carrying a big chip on your shoulders is what makes you happy, but then we go back at the whole amusing yourself at other people's expenses.

I don't care what you eat. I don't care who or what you have sex with. I really don't care what you like to do to amuse yourself with, as long as it is not at my expense. I just find the whole holier than thou and chip on the shoulder attitude annoying.

Loot at the original post; Mr. vegan here assumes that everybody else thinks that him being a vegan is slowing him down. Dude, get over yourself and your diet; nobody cares what you are eating. You are happy? Then I'm happy for you. You seem to get annoyed at people 'judging' you for being a vegan, yet start throwing epithets such as carnivore? Heck, I love meat but I can't eat enough to be labeled a carnivore.

Bottom line, be happy, do what makes you happy, don't worry about what other people think. Unless carrying a big chip on your shoulders is what makes you happy, but then we go back at the whole amusing yourself at other people's expenses.

The above, in my opinion, is what being vegan is about for the majority of vegans.
If you want attention, wear a hat with a pinwheel on it.

I live without hangups. From a dietary standpoint, this means I eat whatever I like or want. And I like meat.

If you want attention, wear a hat with a pinwheel on it.

Or, you could cycle about wearing a mankini (http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/32330.jpg?zm=250,250,1,0,0) ;)

My vegan friend is tolerant of even my fellow Carnivores.. She's among my best friends.. Let's not stereotype.. We are wanna be vegetarians , but can't make the leap. Not so much for 'Peta,' causes but we think reduced meat consumption is good for one's health and for the world in that vegetarian food is more energy/water wise.. It would certainly contribute to a greater abundance of food for all on the planet.. Going vegan. Way too strict. No can do.

The above, in my opinion, is what being vegan is about for the majority of vegans.
If you want attention, wear a hat with a pinwheel on it.

lamp shade. Way cool!. Did you see the movie "Night on Earth." Featuring no less than lamp shade the clown.?

I live without hangups. From a dietary standpoint, this means I eat whatever I like or want. And I like meat.

Uh huh

lamp shade. Way cool!. Did you see the movie "Night on Earth." Featuring no less than lamp shade the clown.?

Okay, I be Mr. Lampshade *puts clown nose on*