Fifty Plus (50+) - OT: Generation America vs AARP

My wife and I tore up our AARP cards over a year ago because of some of the things they support or don't support. This isn't a P&R type thread. No arguing for or against things.
Just curious if anyone here is a member of Generation America. What do you think of it?
http://generationamerica.org/

Wow, an anti-Obama 50+ group. What will they think of next...

I think....I will be going to The Rally to Restore Sanity on Oct 30th in DC.

http://www.rallytorestoresanity.com/

:popcorn

How does one spell P&R?

P&R is spelled politically ridiculous.

My wife and I tore up our AARP cards over a year ago because of some of the things they support or don't support. This isn't a P&R type thread. No arguing for or against things.
Just curious if anyone here is a member of Generation America. What do you think of it?
http://generationamerica.org/


I think any organization that chooses Glenn Beck as its spokesman lacks all credibility.

Also -- and I'm just skimming their website briefly -- it looks to me like it's a for-profit company that makes its money from their insurance products, travel club, etc. etc. They have a non-profit arm and lobbying group, but that's just wrapped up inside their profit-making enterprise. So they're using a veneer of (conservative) advocacy to serve as the marketing push for their insurance and other products.

I don't know this for a fact, just 3 minutes of skimming the website. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

BTW, I have nothing against conservative advocacy, I *do* have something against Glenn Beck and against for-profit companies disguising themselves as charities.

( It's sort of like Livestrong -- there is a "non-profit" arm to Livestrong, and a "for profit" side at Livestrong.com. You can donate money to Livestrong.org, or you can spend time at Livestrong.com, where your visits help them sell advertising. Livestrong.com is very much a profit-making organization; Livestrong.org is a charity. You can visit the two websites on your own and conclude for yourself whether you think folks would be confused or not. )

I always look very, very carefully at any product or membership directed toward "older" Americans. I have power of attorney over my mother in law's affairs (she's 90) so I get all of the crap that is mailed to her. There is some kind of sleazy marketing pitch aimed at her in our mailbox almost every day. The B.S. aimed at older Americans is an infinite river of s****.

Just fyi -- I'm not saying AARP is any model of behavior in terms of making clear how much money they make from their profit-oriented activities, either.

I think....I will be going to The Rally to Restore Sanity on Oct 30th in DC.

http://www.rallytorestoresanity.com/

I'll be there in spirit if not physically. Or you could go to the counter-rally, "March to Keep Fear Alive (http://www.keepfearalive.com/)" if that floats yer boat. :lol:

I'll be there in spirit if not physically. Or you could go to the counter-rally, "March to Keep Fear Alive (http://www.keepfearalive.com/)" if that floats yer boat. :lol:

Aren't you trying to scare the crap out of other people by labeling your political opponents as fear-mongers and lunatics? And Colbert as your spokeman? Oh come on.

I had to make that point, but otherwise count me out. Put me in the conservative/sympathetic to the OP column, but I'm going to try to ride an imperial century next Saturday and I have to save my energy: no political posting, no sex, and ten hours of sleep a night. I'm already into the carbohydrate loading thing.

Aren't you trying to scare the crap out of other people by labeling your political opponents as fear-mongers and lunatics? And Colbert as your spokeman? Oh come on.

I had to make that point, but otherwise count me out. Put me in the conservative/sympathetic to the OP column, but I'm going to try to ride an imperial century next Saturday and I have to save my energy: no political posting, no sex, and ten hours of sleep a night. I'm already into the carbohydrate loading thing.

I never figured you for a ditto head.

I think any organization that chooses Glenn Beck as its spokesman lacks all credibility.

Also -- and I'm just skimming their website briefly -- it looks to me like it's a for-profit company that makes its money from their insurance products, travel club, etc. etc. They have a non-profit arm and lobbying group, but that's just wrapped up inside their profit-making enterprise. So they're using a veneer of (conservative) advocacy to serve as the marketing push for their insurance and other products.

I don't know this for a fact, just 3 minutes of skimming the website. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

BTW, I have nothing against conservative advocacy, I *do* have something against Glenn Beck and against for-profit companies disguising themselves as charities.

( It's sort of like Livestrong -- there is a "non-profit" arm to Livestrong, and a "for profit" side at Livestrong.com. You can donate money to Livestrong.org, or you can spend time at Livestrong.com, where your visits help them sell advertising. Livestrong.com is very much a profit-making organization; Livestrong.org is a charity. You can visit the two websites on your own and conclude for yourself whether you think folks would be confused or not. )

I always look very, very carefully at any product or membership directed toward "older" Americans. I have power of attorney over my mother in law's affairs (she's 90) so I get all of the crap that is mailed to her. There is some kind of sleazy marketing pitch aimed at her in our mailbox almost every day. The B.S. aimed at older Americans is an infinite river of s****.

Just fyi -- I'm not saying AARP is any model of behavior in terms of making clear how much money they make from their profit-oriented activities, either.

+1

I also have nothing against conservative advocacy, but the tea baggers and Fox propaganda are way beyond conservative.

I never figured you for a ditto head.

Did you read my last post correctly? I'M IN TRAINING, DUDE! Knock it off until next Sunday. By then I'll be too tired to respond.

Did you read my last post correctly? I'M IN TRAINING, DUDE! Knock it off until next Sunday. By then I'll be too tired to respond.

Resistance is futile. Does Glen Beck make you want to cry along with him?

I never figured you for a ditto head.

I did ... someone posted some mild humour, and he saw it as political and whined until it got moved to P&R.

Fine then. JUST FINE.

I quit. I resign. Forever. I'm burning my membership card to BF because UrSoMeAn. I'm taking my ball and going home. In the words of Cartman, you guys suck.

Well, maybe not forever. Maybe for like three or four weeks. But only if you apologize and start being nice, because mean people suck. And stop calling me a dittohead and a Palinista and a Fox worshipper. Crap, next thing you know you'll accuse me of (gasp! Hide the children, honey, and shutter up the windows) watching the Sean Hannity Show.

There. NOW YOU'VE REALLY DONE IT.

BTW, the mayor of Seattle really is a nut case. Just a little humour. I read it on the Drudge Report, so it must be true.

Truth be told, it depends what's on the tube tonight. If I have to watch reruns of Kate Plus Eight or Project Runway, I guess I'll be back, but only because I might need inspiration for my attempted century. But it won't mean that you're not mean and you don't suck. It's like returning to an abusive relationship. I just can't help myself.

You know those comments I made about how good you look in your over 50 jersey? NONE OF THEM WERE TRUE!

Now buzz off.

AARP = $16/year. Join for one year, get the card, enjoy the discounts, and don't renew if you don't like their politics.

Generation America = $24/year. Get a card that most places won't recognize. Some will like their politics, some won't.

Doing the thrifty bill math, the decision was easy.

Touchy.

Fine then. JUST FINE.

I quit. I resign. Forever. I'm burning my membership card to BF because UrSoMeAn. I'm taking my ball and going home. In the words of Cartman, you guys suck.

Well, maybe not forever. Maybe for like three or four weeks. But only if you apologize and start being nice, because mean people suck. And stop calling me a dittohead and a Palinista and a Fox worshipper. Crap, next thing you know you'll accuse me of (gasp! Hide the children, honey, and shutter up the windows) watching the Sean Hannity Show.

There. NOW YOU'VE REALLY DONE IT.

BTW, the mayor of Seattle really is a nut case. Just a little humour. I read it on the Drudge Report, so it must be true.

Truth be told, it depends what's on the tube tonight. If I have to watch reruns of Kate Plus Eight or Project Runway, I guess I'll be back, but only because I might need inspiration for my attempted century. But it won't mean that you're not mean and you don't suck. It's like returning to an abusive relationship. I just can't help myself.

You know those comments I made about how good you look in your over 50 jersey? NONE OF THEM WERE TRUE!

Now buzz off.

I don't even have a 50+ jersey. Who are you talking to?

BTW, the mayor of Seattle really is a nut case. Just a little humour..

Mayor's name is McGinn. Because of his bike advocacy, his opponents now call him Mayor McSchwinn.

I don't even have a 50+ jersey. Who are you talking to?

Well, I couldn't have claimed to have faked the orgasm, so I had to come up with something and that's all I could think of at the moment.

Really, I'd love to chat but I got to finish up at the office or my wife will kill me, and all these issues will become more meaningless than they already are.

I'm cracking up... most entertainment from BF in weeks. Nice Post TWL; you're on a roll. Personally, the favorite label I've received has been "feminazi", applied because I didn't automatically characterize an employee's sexual harassment allegations as frivolous, but instead chose to hear both sides of the issue. Oh, and I said something favorable about Anita Hill. This was in a bar in Atlanta (I was a Californian then), and I wasn't sure I'd make it out in one piece. Then I had to tell a guy in Florida the company couldn't pay his membership to a country club that didn't admit women, and that he'd have to re-think having company luncheons where they gathered around the radio to listen to Rush.

And now I live in Arizona. Go figure. I must like abuse as much as TWL.

What is a "Imperial Century"? Do you wear an Imperial Storm Trooper outfit? Do you drink a shot of Imperial Whiskey every 5 miles? Do you smoke a Imperial Cigar every 20 miles(they a quite expensive). Just asking.

Define conservative. I live in San Francisco, where even cycling is a political statement; rightly so.

Nice Post TWL; you're a troll.

fify

I'm glad someone around here appreciates it when I skip the meds for a day or two.

So this is what it comes down to: wife wants "Julia and Julie" on PPV; daughter #1 wants Project Runway (at least Heidi Klum is hot); daughter #2 wants Hanna Montana.

And they wonder why I'm so bitter and cling to guns and religion.

Listen up: metric is for Communists, imperial is for Americans. None of this sissy 62 mile crap. I'm going for the enchilada grande.

Not to derail this thread or anything (geez, I'd be the last one to whine and get this moved to P&R where it belongs, but I caught 8 kinds of Commie Crap the last time I did that) but I have an ethical question. When I sold the ride next week to my wife, I did not say "I'm going to ride 100 miles for no better reason than telling people I don't know and certainly don't like on BF that I did it". I said "I'm going to go on a pretty long ride that will take most of the day".

Was this an ethical lapse?

PS. The family compromised and they're watching "America's next top model" which in spite of the multitude of babes is actually a damn awful show.

Got it, i have not done a century yet, but am working up to it. Maybe this month. Never joined AArp, however i do return their postage paid stuff blank.

Let's see - supppose you told a patient to "Take enough medicine for the rest of the day" instead ot "take two tablets every 4 hours and call another doctor if you have any problems"

Is that an ethical lapse?

I think....I will be going to The Rally to Restore Sanity on Oct 30th in DC.

http://www.rallytorestoresanity.com/

Sounds like fun, but I wish they'd throw in lots of alcohol and public nudity. Then I'd be sure to attend! :D

Sounds like fun, but I wish they'd throw in lots of alcohol and public nudity. Then I'd be sure to attend! :D

Burning man east

Okay this column header on their page: TARP Again? In one of my insurance newsletters today they are talking about the fact that AIG is fast tracking their payment back to the government and that the government is actually making money off the deal. I don't see them mentioning THAT anywhere!

Ok. I was hoping someone here is/was a member and could give me an opinion (good or bad) of the benefits (travel, insurance, roadside assistance, insurance, etc.).
If it continues down the P&R path I'll just close it.

I can't afford to retire.

What is a "Imperial Century"? Do you wear an Imperial Storm Trooper outfit? Do you drink a shot of Imperial Whiskey every 5 miles? Do you smoke a Imperial Cigar every 20 miles(they a quite expensive). Just asking.

It's what they call centuries in Russia, so it's watered down by 32%.

My wife and I tore up our AARP cards over a year ago because of some of the things they support or don't support. This isn't a P&R type thread. No arguing for or against things.
Just curious if anyone here is a member of Generation America. What do you think of it?
http://generationamerica.org/

Other than the fact that this post went off the rails, I can only say that I burned my AARP card over their total support of the federal death tax. I think the socialist management of AARP has sold out their membership.

Okay this column header on their page: TARP Again? In one of my insurance newsletters today they are talking about the fact that AIG is fast tracking their payment back to the government and that the government is actually making money off the deal. I don't see them mentioning THAT anywhere!

A beautiful black woman won ANTM. I thought she deserved it. I wouldn't want my daughters to dress like that, though.

Anyway, ain't that simple. My congresscritter, John Yarmuth, is one of the most liberal members of the House but either voted against TARP or threatened to do so because it "favored the fat cat bankers". OTOH, as I have a hefty life insurance policy with AIG, I was glad to see TARP pass.

Back to the original poster, I agree that AARP as an advocacy group does a poor job in representing it's constituents. Our demographic is the only one that actually gave a majority vote to McCain in 2008. I had canceled my membership years ago over some dumb stand they had taken on something or another. However, they have the advantage of a huge but declining membership and take advantage of their economic clout. Hewitt touts AMAC and I'll probably join them sooner or later. You might check out their website. They seem to have decent benefits, although it will be a long time maybe before they can match AARP in power.

Aren't you trying to scare the crap out of other people by labeling your political opponents as fear-mongers and lunatics? And Colbert as your spokeman? Oh come on.

I had to make that point, but otherwise count me out. Put me in the conservative/sympathetic to the OP column, but I'm going to try to ride an imperial century next Saturday and I have to save my energy: no political posting, no sex, and ten hours of sleep a night. I'm already into the carbohydrate loading thing.

No. Simply having a little chuckle at a joke. I don't have a spokesman, certainly not a comedian's farcical character. I would try to figure out how my post elicited such a reaction, but I need to get to sleep. I have a metric to ride in the morning.

Back to the original poster, I agree that AARP as an advocacy group does a poor job in representing it's constituents. Our demographic is the only one that actually gave a majority vote to McCain in 2008. I had canceled my membership years ago over some dumb stand they had taken on something or another. However, they have the advantage of a huge but declining membership and take advantage of their economic clout. Hewitt touts AMAC and I'll probably join them sooner or later. You might check out their website. They seem to have decent benefits, although it will be a long time maybe before they can match AARP in power.
Thanks for the info. I'll look at them and maybe between the two organizations I can find something worth the money.