The Weak Link
10-02-10, 06:19 AM
Just wondering. Did the OP request it (too much of that lately, IMO) or did someone ahem whine about it because it wandered away from the prevailing 50+ ethos?
Fifty Plus (50+) - Why was the AARP thread closed?
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RonH
10-02-10, 06:34 AM
I was looking for honest replies and opinions about an alternative to AARP. It got too political so I closed it. I didn't want it moved to P&R.
Ziemas
10-02-10, 06:37 AM
You started a clearly political thread (yes, I read it) and didn't want it moved to P&R? A mod should know better.
The Weak Link
10-02-10, 06:41 AM
OK. As I was saying, just wondering. I'll drop it.
In fairness to the OP, he was much more likely to get a response about AARP on this forum than he might have gotten on, say, the fixie forum.
Now, before everyone starts whining about Glenn Beck, please close this thread down.
In fairness to the OP, he was much more likely to get a response about AARP on this forum than he might have gotten on, say, the fixie forum.
Now, before everyone starts whining about Glenn Beck, please close this thread down.
wiredfoxterror
10-02-10, 07:10 AM
I have a tip for very old drivers - 21st.com Whenever a "very seasoned" driver calls my office for a quote we refer them there. My Mom is 91 and I just had her get a quote off their website as her State Farm premium almost doubled - it was less than half the price. 80s or 90s, sometimes 70s age range It is the old AIG program for older drivers. It's all done online and really easy.
JanMM
10-02-10, 07:42 AM
You started a clearly political thread (yes, I read it) and didn't want it moved to P&R? A mod should know better.
There was a whiff of the odor of politics in the first post.
There was a whiff of the odor of politics in the first post.
DnvrFox
10-02-10, 08:34 AM
Once I clicked on the link, and saw "that person's" picture staring at me, I knew everything was headed downhill.
Louis
10-02-10, 08:51 AM
The smell of fish was strong that night, my friends.:D
The Weak Link
10-02-10, 02:53 PM
The smell of fish was strong that night, my friends.:D
This reminds me of my favorite phrase coined by one of the Hitchens brothers. Guess which one:
This has the stench of totalitarian slander, paving the road to suppression and persecution.
This reminds me of my favorite phrase coined by one of the Hitchens brothers. Guess which one:
This has the stench of totalitarian slander, paving the road to suppression and persecution.
BengeBoy
10-02-10, 03:24 PM
I let my party affiliation show; led to a general meltdown.
http://i56.tinypic.com/28cq0ld.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/28cq0ld.jpg
maddmaxx
10-02-10, 03:59 PM
Threads about AARP would probably be better served here than in P&R.
billydonn
10-02-10, 04:11 PM
I let my party affiliation show; led to a general meltdown.
http://i56.tinypic.com/28cq0ld.jpg
You go boy! :thumb:
http://i56.tinypic.com/28cq0ld.jpg
You go boy! :thumb:
gcottay
10-02-10, 04:35 PM
I was looking for honest replies and opinions about an alternative to AARP. It got too political so I closed it. I didn't want it moved to P&R.
You provided a link to a radical right organization, were then called on it, and took your toys home. Take your politics somewhere else and, while you are at it, work on the difference between lame excuse and apology.
You provided a link to a radical right organization, were then called on it, and took your toys home. Take your politics somewhere else and, while you are at it, work on the difference between lame excuse and apology.
The Weak Link
10-02-10, 05:54 PM
You provided a link to a radical right organization.
:lol:
Channeling Saul Alinsky, are we?
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x40/TWLBA/0222.jpg
:lol:
Channeling Saul Alinsky, are we?
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x40/TWLBA/0222.jpg
BengeBoy
10-02-10, 06:05 PM
Those Russkies built some nice bikes, though.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1190/750777287_3cc8734979.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/robotar/750777287/)Soviet bicycle design (http://www.flickr.com/photos/robotar/750777287/) by iamtdj (http://www.flickr.com/people/robotar/), on Flickr
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1190/750777287_3cc8734979.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/robotar/750777287/)Soviet bicycle design (http://www.flickr.com/photos/robotar/750777287/) by iamtdj (http://www.flickr.com/people/robotar/), on Flickr
DnvrFox
10-02-10, 07:09 PM
Can I get a discount on that bike through AARP?
The Weak Link
10-02-10, 08:54 PM
Da, ya lyublu rusknich dyavushich (horrible transliteration, actually sounds better in Russian).
Road Fan
10-03-10, 04:55 PM
Threads about AARP would probably be better served here than in P&R.
I certainly would be more interested in a discussion of AARP here (where we have some experience with them) than in P&R, where there will be reactions that are all over the map. The discussion will get sidetracked no matter what, but the sidetracks here will not tick me off nearly as bad.
I missed the original thread, however.
I certainly would be more interested in a discussion of AARP here (where we have some experience with them) than in P&R, where there will be reactions that are all over the map. The discussion will get sidetracked no matter what, but the sidetracks here will not tick me off nearly as bad.
I missed the original thread, however.
akohekohe
10-03-10, 07:09 PM
Hmm, I suggested in another recent thread that someone who just turned fifty join AARP and had no idea AARP was so controversial ... and I still don't on account of the AARP thread disappeared. Is AARP related to bicycling? ... well http://aarp.duvine.com/?intcmp=ASI-RR-FIT-DUV yes. BTW DuVine looks like they have some very nice tours.
BluesDawg
10-03-10, 07:30 PM
AARP was not the controversial part of the discussion. The thread is still there, it is just closed. You can read it but not post to it.
LDB
10-03-10, 07:59 PM
Look at AMAC as an alternative to AARP. AMAC is a far better organization. www.amac.us
maddmaxx
10-04-10, 02:59 AM
Look at AMAC as an alternative to AARP. AMAC is a far better organization. www.amac.us
The very first headline on their page is political (very political). That's not what I would be looking for either there or at AARP. I'm more interested in being 64 and finding an organization to represent me without the politics.
The very first headline on their page is political (very political). That's not what I would be looking for either there or at AARP. I'm more interested in being 64 and finding an organization to represent me without the politics.
akohekohe
10-04-10, 03:58 AM
AARP was not the controversial part of the discussion. The thread is still there, it is just closed. You can read it but not post to it.
Thanks, I read the thread. My only observation is that if I quit every organization where I disagree with some of their stands I wouldn't belong to any. My local AARP has been very good about advocating for pedestrian issues and this very often helps cyclists as well. They were right on top of it when I asked for their support when a bill allowing bicycles with electric motors to be classed as bicycles was amended to remove three wheeled bicycles from the bill. They understood right away that this would have a negative effect on seniors and got it fixed, so I'm not about to turn in my card anytime soon, even if I don't always agree with them on some of the national issues.
Thanks, I read the thread. My only observation is that if I quit every organization where I disagree with some of their stands I wouldn't belong to any. My local AARP has been very good about advocating for pedestrian issues and this very often helps cyclists as well. They were right on top of it when I asked for their support when a bill allowing bicycles with electric motors to be classed as bicycles was amended to remove three wheeled bicycles from the bill. They understood right away that this would have a negative effect on seniors and got it fixed, so I'm not about to turn in my card anytime soon, even if I don't always agree with them on some of the national issues.
capejohn
10-04-10, 05:16 PM
Look at AMAC as an alternative to AARP. AMAC is a far better organization. www.amac.us
The link is trash. More extremist whining. That stuff gets old.
The link is trash. More extremist whining. That stuff gets old.
The Weak Link
10-04-10, 05:19 PM
The link is trash. More extreme whining. That stuff gets old.
Stop calling people you don't agree with names. That stuff gets old.
Stop calling people you don't agree with names. That stuff gets old.
Metric Man
10-04-10, 05:23 PM
The link is trash. More extremist whining. That stuff gets old.
It's always extremist when you don't agree.
It's always extremist when you don't agree.
BengeBoy
10-04-10, 05:46 PM
One of the joys of the thread that was closed was that it gave the Weak Link a chance to refer to Seattle's mayor as a nut case (I can't recall the exact phrase).
Our mayor -- Mike McGinn, former head of the Sierra Club, and a long-time bike commuter -- is known locally as "Mayor McSchwinn."
As a service to The Weak Leak, I thought I would provide a link to an article in the local business paper in which Mayor McSchwinn has been lambasted by the most powerful landowner/developer in the area, Kemper Freeman, who owns a billion dollars or so of real estate and malls in the East Side. McSchwinn is a huge advocate of bikes and mass transit; Kemper Freeman is a huge advocate of, well, malls and cars (he's financing a number of legal actions intended to stop the spread of light rail into "his" suburb.)
Here's the interview:
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/2010/10/kfreeman_mcginns_knifing_seattle_retail.html
(Hey Weak Link -- thought you would enjoy this)
Our mayor -- Mike McGinn, former head of the Sierra Club, and a long-time bike commuter -- is known locally as "Mayor McSchwinn."
As a service to The Weak Leak, I thought I would provide a link to an article in the local business paper in which Mayor McSchwinn has been lambasted by the most powerful landowner/developer in the area, Kemper Freeman, who owns a billion dollars or so of real estate and malls in the East Side. McSchwinn is a huge advocate of bikes and mass transit; Kemper Freeman is a huge advocate of, well, malls and cars (he's financing a number of legal actions intended to stop the spread of light rail into "his" suburb.)
Here's the interview:
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/2010/10/kfreeman_mcginns_knifing_seattle_retail.html
(Hey Weak Link -- thought you would enjoy this)
DnvrFox
10-04-10, 05:53 PM
How long until this thread about "why was the AARP thread closed" is closed?
Then we could have another thread
Why was the thread about the AARP thread being closed, closed?
Then we could have another thread
Why was the thread about the AARP thread being closed, closed?
Terex
10-04-10, 06:26 PM
How long until this thread about "why was the AARP thread closed" is closed?
Then we could have another thread
Why was the thread about the AARP thread being closed, closed?
From Little Britain, "When people in Britain want to buy a pet, they go to a pet shop. If they want to buy a pet shop, they go to a pet shop shop. If they want to buy a pet shop shop, well, they're just being silly. "
I think this thread is silly enough.
Then we could have another thread
Why was the thread about the AARP thread being closed, closed?
From Little Britain, "When people in Britain want to buy a pet, they go to a pet shop. If they want to buy a pet shop, they go to a pet shop shop. If they want to buy a pet shop shop, well, they're just being silly. "
I think this thread is silly enough.
The Weak Link
10-04-10, 06:46 PM
Seattle's ticked off because it's not Portland.
That's it.
That's it.
Metric Man
10-04-10, 06:54 PM
Seattle's ticked off because it's not Portland.
That's it.
Who can blame them?
That's it.
Who can blame them?
BengeBoy
10-04-10, 07:19 PM
Seattle's ticked off because it's not Portland.
That's it.
There have been at least a couple of efforts by graduate students using GIS mapping data to try to figure out whether Seattle can ever be as bike-friendly as Portland.
The short answer (as I understand it) is "no." The problems is that there are too many natural barriers (mainly steep hills) running across too many important neighborhoods. Therefore, even if bike infrastructure is improved, it's still going to be difficult to get casual riders interested in bike commuting because too many routes are too difficult.
http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/04/20/portland-and-seattle-bicycle-analysis/
So: we are not Portland. We are tougher.
That's it.
There have been at least a couple of efforts by graduate students using GIS mapping data to try to figure out whether Seattle can ever be as bike-friendly as Portland.
The short answer (as I understand it) is "no." The problems is that there are too many natural barriers (mainly steep hills) running across too many important neighborhoods. Therefore, even if bike infrastructure is improved, it's still going to be difficult to get casual riders interested in bike commuting because too many routes are too difficult.
http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/04/20/portland-and-seattle-bicycle-analysis/
So: we are not Portland. We are tougher.
gcottay
10-07-10, 02:25 PM
It's always extremist when you don't agree.
Not, so in my experience. I've often been embarrassed by the language and tactics of ideological compatriots and can admire those with opposing ideas.
Not, so in my experience. I've often been embarrassed by the language and tactics of ideological compatriots and can admire those with opposing ideas.
RonH
10-07-10, 03:05 PM
There have been at least a couple of efforts by graduate students using GIS mapping data to try to figure out whether Seattle can ever be as bike-friendly as Portland.
My wife and I didn't think much of Seattle when we were there last May. Didn't look bike friendly to us. :eek:
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RonH/seattle.jpg?t=1286485354
We liked the Columbia River Gorge area. Great for cycling!! :thumb:
My wife and I didn't think much of Seattle when we were there last May. Didn't look bike friendly to us. :eek:
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo174/RonH/seattle.jpg?t=1286485354
We liked the Columbia River Gorge area. Great for cycling!! :thumb: