Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Serious question about Wheels.

So i just got my first bike and already thinking of a custom build and have been doing a ton of research. I'm really interested in the H plus son rims-Formation Face and the Aerospoke rims-700c. some people swear by them others say they're crap. So all "hipster" and sarcastic comments aside (purely tech question) What do you think of them? and if they are crap do you know of better (lighter/more durable/more aerodynamic) wheels that look the same/similar?

any help would be greatly appreciated!

They are neither aerodynamic nor lightweight. They look cool, and that is it. 100%. If you want wheels that look cool, go for it.

they are good for mad cool skidzzzz.

Max street cred.

Aerospokes aren't exactly light. However they are durable and won't have to be trued obviously. Btw, I don't own them, but our shops mechanic is one of their diehard fans.

Aerospokes aren't exactly light. However they are durable and won't have to be trued obviously. Btw, I don't own them, but our shops mechanic is one of their diehard fans.

They are relatively durable, which you can say for most wheels. They are heavy as hell, and the fact that they cant be trued is a NEGATIVE because they do get out of true and then you are stuck with a wobbly, heavy, 300 dollar wheel.

They are relatively durable, which you can say for most wheels. They are heavy as hell, and the fact that they cant be trued is a NEGATIVE because they do get out of true and then you are stuck with a wobbly, heavy, 300 dollar wheel.

I didn't know they could get like that, at least to a noticeable extent... Is that common? And after how long? Not planning on getting them but out of curiosity...

They are relatively durable, which you can say for most wheels. They are heavy as hell, and the fact that they cant be trued is a NEGATIVE because they do get out of true and then you are stuck with a wobbly, heavy, 300 dollar wheel.

Not too much of a negative if you're not running brakes...

Not too much of a negative if you're not running brakes...

Yeah a riding on a non-true wheel that cannot be fixed thus will only get worse isn't a problem for people riding brake less...

I didn't know they could get like that, at least to a noticeable extent... Is that common? And after how long? Not planning on getting them but out of curiosity...

Is it common? Cant give you any statistics, but I have had one friend who had it become a problem for him, another person I met showed me his wheel asking for tips to fix(nothing that I could think of) and then a number of stories that I have read online. Not to mention they are extremely overpriced and you can get a better quality SET of wheels for the price you would pay for one aerospoke.

after how long? It only takes one pothole, one crash, one bump to throw it off to the point of no return (unless your going to take a mallet to your new 300 dollar wheel). So it can happen the first day out or never depending on where/how much/how hard you ride.

They are neither aerodynamic nor lightweight. They look cool, and that is it. 100%. If you want wheels that look cool, go for it. also aerospokes are pretty bomb proof and will last a long time and never go out of true

the H plus son rims-Formation Face and the Aerospoke

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durability of aeropokes....still better than spinergy
you can send in a broken aerospoke and get a new one for $150 no matter how old it was. still pricier than replacing a rim but a good service if something happens

also aerospokes are pretty bomb proof and will last a long time and never go out of true

This guy is clueless...

durability of aeropokes....still better than spinergy
you can send in a broken aerospoke and get a new one for $150 no matter how old it was. still pricier than replacing a rim but a good service if something happens

Good service would be replacing it for free when you spent 300+. Your cool looking wheel now cost you 450.

And I take it your talking about the rev-x when saying aerospokes are more durable than spinergy. Spinergy doesnt even make that style of wheel anymore, and the reason the aerospokes are more durable is because the design is totally different. Look at the spokes themselves. A aerospoke probably weights twice that of a rev x where the spokes where thin sheets of carbon, actually lightweight, and somewhat aerodynamic.

i'm well aware of the difference between the rev x and the aerospoke, point was that there are a lot more dangerous wheels which some people still ride.

replacing a wheel for free someone run thou a pothole does seem to be to good to be true.

don't get me wrong, i don't own an aerospoke and don't plan on getting one. the point is more that they are not race wheels but if someone want's to ride them it's not the worst you can do to yourself...

Hey guys, read the OP's first post in Introductions, and then temper your remarks accordingly:

1) His bike is a Schwinn Cutter
2) He is is probably a teenager dependent on parents for funding

This guy is clueless...

I don't know.

I spotted this one on Sunday and it was pretty true for as old as it is.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/5057439127_262c316465.jpg

@TejanoTrackie
Okay. im NOT a teen and definitely NOT dependent on parents funding at all. which is WHY I'm very cautious about making these decisions. I don't have money to burn. but good attempt at reading people on the internet though...

Well KDST3 look at it like this. A pair of aerospokes is going to cost you 300-700$. A set of H plus wheels will run you 300-500$. Why are you willing to spend more on wheels than you did on your entire bike? There are other parts that need more immediate attention. However, look at Alexwheels if you must upgrade wheelsets. They have a mock velocity deep v for a relatively low price and are good quality. I will be looking for a response to my question.

EDIT: After looking more closely at your bike, if you purchase a wheelset at all you are a fool. The bike is 350$ and a wheelset will run you at least 100$. 1/3 of the total price of the bike for wheels still doesnt make sense. You dont have a bad bike. But you do have a heavy, week, poorly designed bike. If I were you Id get a new frame for 200-300$

I would look into a new frame first..
Aerospokes are garbage IMHO, and the H-Plus sons are just too pricey and heavy.
I would get over the image thing, and get a set of open pros or CXP33s (if you want the semi deep v) they are just better made for the same or similar price (eyeletted, not pinned blah blah)

They are relatively durable, which you can say for most wheels.

This. I seriously would like some Aerospokes purely for looks. But since they are neither light nor aero I could never spend my money on them.

In a way; isn't the Aerospoke meant for the streets? Because it's not for the track?

I agree with them looking cool: I love the way they look. Personally I'm more into 'form over function' but if they didn't lack performance so badly, I'd get one.

I'd like a Wood's hub, nice rims - and having my LBS lace good spokes - IMO that's how you spend your money right on wheels.

Just get yourself some aluminum foil and spray paint. The possibilities are endless...
http://www.rotterdamfixedgear.com/site/wp-content/uploads/scraper-bikes.jpg

Hey guys, read the OP's first post in Introductions, and then temper your remarks accordingly:

1) His bike is a Schwinn Cutter
2) He is is probably a teenager dependent on parents for funding
OP, yes, perhaps the second point is unfair, but the first point is actually relevant. Putting such expensive wheels (regardless they are good or not) on such a cheap bike is basically the equivalent of putting spinners and massive exhaust pipes on a beat-up car that costs less than the accessories purchased for it.

You'd be much better off saving for a new bike if you were desperate to spend the money.

@Capocaccia

Thank you very much for the advice, The wheel set is actually not for the Cutter, the cutter i bought for transport. I became obsessed with riding, and now I want to piece together a custom build.

also a big thank you to anyone else giving relevant advice. i will admit i do enjoy the look of these wheels, but mainly as someone brand new to the scene im just trying to get as much info as possible so i can make better educated decisions down the road, not throw away money.

@Capocaccia
i will admit i do enjoy the look of these wheels, but mainly as someone brand new to the scene im just trying to get as much info as possible so i can make better educated decisions down the road, not throw away money.

Which is smart. None of us are born with infinite knowledge of all things bicycle and I'm sure a lot of us here have bought something based upon how we've thought it looked and it turned out to be rubbish.

We were all noobs once. Do your research, ask questions and take the haters with a grain of salt.

BTW, I have a front Aerospoke that will be going on a bike I'm currently gathering parts for. I got it for almost no money and wasn't even sure I'd like it. I threw it on my Madison for a few days just to give it an honest go and freaking love it. Riding with it makes me feel like Mad Max.

Then I hoped you learned your lesson and decided to never purchase an aerospoke.

Some-one said h+son rims are heavy. Thats pretty funny since where talking a hundred grams or so that would make it "heavier" than the next rim. Or in the case of the b43, every so slightly lighter.

My advice, get a set of formula hubs, dt spokes, and some velocity deep v's, b43s, or the h+sons. You can find the whole deal on ebay for decent price. They will last long, take abuse, ride nice, and also look good while doing it.

Then I hoped you learned your lesson and decided to never purchase an aerospoke.


I got it for 75 bucks and it has less than 200 miles on it.

You know what I mean...

A deal is a deal. Not the same as paying 300+

I hear you. I'd never pay top dollar for an Aerospoke and if I didn't pick it up so cheaply, I wouldn't have one.

My advice, get a set of formula hubs, dt spokes, and some velocity deep v's, b43s, or the h+sons. You can find the whole deal on ebay for decent price. They will last long, take abuse, ride nice, and also look good while doing it.

What about dp18's? A lot of people seem to have them. How would you compare those to velocity deep v's or something?

Kinlin XR-300 would be a better choice for rims.

Personally, i would use stock (machine built) wheels and adjust them until they are true, if you have a truing stand. IMO, aerospokes are not worth the price. Just adjust your wheels until they are true, and you will not have any trouble. And TejanoTrackie, I would not make any judgements towards economic status. I pay for college, my car, my bike, and any other habits I have. I also work 60 hours per week. So please, not to be a dick or anything, but please, do not make judgements based on economic standing...

Platts - I forgot about the avatar I picked for you. Classic!

Kinlin XR-300 would be a better choice for rims.

+1.

way lighter, nearly as deep, nearly as strong...lots of color choices if that's your thing. i run them on two different roadies and they are excellent.