Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Do fixed rear hubs that are NOT flip-flop exist?

Can someone recommend a good one?

Miche.

http://www.miche.it/en/catalogo/catalogo-miche/mozzi/mozzi-primato-pista---flangia-grande

dura ace 7600

http://www.thebikebiz.com/product_p/trk-hub-shim01.htm

Phil Wood

http://www.ride-this.com/index.php/phil-wood-track-high-flange-bo-r-hub-120x32h-sil.html?source=googleps

are they generally a lot more expensive?

Surly makes a single sided Fixed, so does Formula IIRC

Miche.

http://www.miche.it/en/catalogo/catalogo-miche/mozzi/mozzi-primato-pista---flangia-grande

Yup. THis is the hubset that I run

And no they are about the same price

Surly makes a single sided Fixed, so does Formula.

That would be flip flop. His title says NOT flip flop

There isnt much of a reason for commuters to not ride on a flip flop hub, so lower end manufacturers dont have much need to make them. Higher end applications have more of a reason to us the slight advantages of a single sided track hub. So high end manufacturers will build them. Since they are a niche product and only made by high end builders they will be generally more expensive than the lower end dual sided hubs made for commuters.

Higher end applications have more of a reason to us the slight advantages of a single sided track hub.

what advantages?

paul makes one too, its still symmetric just has no threads on one side.
campy and am classic make them as well

i prefer flip flop, options are nice and i like that they are symmetrical...

That would be flip flop. His title says NOT flip flop

How is that a flipflop, only one side of the hub has threading for a Fixed Cog.

There's nothing on the other side.

Is a fixed/fixed hub considered flip flop?

How is that a flipflop, only one side of the hub has threading for a Fixed Cog.

There's nothing on the other side.

Your really pathetic knowing that you edited your post....

You know what you said originally.

yes, you can ride on the flip or flop side

Your really pathetic knowing that you edited your post....

You know what you said originally.

he just added 'iirc.'

no, he didnt.

he said surly, forumla, xxx, all make fixed/fixed hubs.

then edited it.

then tried to make me look stupid.

pathetic.

he wasn't trying to make you look stupid, he tried to make himself look not stupid. which failed because it's pretty obvious he misunderstood the question, even without your questioning.

any hub which can be driven on either side is considered flipflop to anyone who matters. flip does not correspond to fixed or free, it just means you can switch the drive side to the other side and still drive it.

and i don't care about this thread, but i would like to know where to buy those cups that thread on and make it look like there is no threading on the non drive side...

and i don't care about this thread, but i would like to know where to buy those cups that thread on and make it look like there is no threading on the non drive side...

http://www.pedalconsumption.com/files/review_halo_fix_t_cover.html

http://www.pedalconsumption.com/files/review_halo_fix_t_cover2.jpg

Wow that looks good when matched to the hub.

Track Bike hubs are one end threaded twice for cog and lockring.
that is what you are referring to . Pista in Italian bike lingo.

the frames are typically narrower .. 120 wide ,
but many a clever mechanic can swap in a longer axle..

Keirin would use that kind of hub too.
Japan Bets on those bike races, so they are highly regulated.
and that includes the quality of the parts, for equalization of the rider's bikes.

Alien's website has some single sided fixed hubs for a really good price last time I checked

white industries hub.

Your really pathetic knowing that you edited your post....

You know what you said originally.
"You're."

I posted that, realized what he posted, then changed it. I didn't realize that when you quoted my post that it would change with my edit. Apologies. I didn't even see your post till an hour later. Relax, jeez.

Calling someone pathetic, without proper spelling or grammar is less effective. Not to mention that you seem to like attacking other members quickly. Mature.

CC700: I realized my mistake once I posted, apologies again. As I said, I didn't realize that when I edit things it would reflect in his quote. I've been staying up on campus for work & school at 16 hours stretches a day for a week, it's not exactly doing wonders for my brain right now. I know what a flip-flop hub was. I know for a fact surly makes one, because one of our riders just sold his with a surly one, and I almost bought a Formula branded Fix hub.

no, he didnt.

he said surly, forumla, xxx, all make fixed/fixed hubs.

then edited it.

then tried to make me look stupid.

pathetic.

Arguing over such trivial matters makes you look far stupider than any edited post ever could.

"You're."

I posted that, realized what he posted, then changed it. I didn't realize that when you quoted my post that it would change with my edit. Apologies.

Calling someone pathetic, especially after your previous thread & posts on high-end cranks is rather humorous. Your maturity is rather lacking.

CC700: I realized my mistake once I posted, apologies again. As I said, I didn't realize that when I edit things it would reflect in his quote. I've been staying up on campus for work & school at 16 hours stretches a day for a week, it's not exactly doing wonders for my brain right now. I know what a flip-flop hub was. I know for a fact surly makes one, because one of our riders just sold his with a surly one, and I almost bought a Formula branded Fix hub.
No need to apologize, everyone makes mistake and everyone use the edit function to edit their posts...

gt is just bitter because apparently you made a fool out of him, which you didn't...

^-- As a sidenote and slightly off topic, my edit didn't reflect in Vixtor's post. I'm kinda out of it, had a BBQ then a fast ride after. =)

the only problem was gt taking it personally as a vendetta. you make a mistake, you visit bf when you have waayyy too many thing to be doing instead, you edit your stuff thinking no one will notice, then when someone does notice you chalk it up to other stuff. i wasn't looking for an apology, i was trying to address that it was not worth fighting over, so get over it and deal with it. that backfired.

what's more important, is that there is no reason other than looks to not have a one sided hub. flip flop hubs give you redundancy with no detriment to the usability of the hub. just leave the non drive side threading blank if you don't like it. the weight savings of not having threading is negligible, as are the aero properties. it's the 'track only' aesthetic that makes people want a one sided hub... and as far as i'm concerned a nicer hub is worth getting for other reasons than that aesthetic.

While I do like the look of a one-sided hub, a flip/flop hub doesn't really look bad at all and is practical. Allah forbid you strip or otherwise damage the threads on one side...your hub isn't toast.

I have a one sided hub on my bike. I didn't really mean to get it, but it's what was available from velomine when i boguht my wheelset. I do think one-sided hubs look slightly better, but it's the sort of thign I only notice if I'm really examining a bike

caveat-

not all single sided hubs build up zero dish.

fyi-

caveat-

not all single sided hubs build up zero dish.

fyi-

Which ones do? I'd like a single sided fixed hub that's symmetric. There's a nice Phil Wood wheelset on ebay that may do the trick.

I have a Campagnolo Pista and love it.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Images/Models/Full/54446.jpg

IMO always go fixed/fixed. Besides the flange, the cog/lockring threads are the only thing that really can get hosed on the hub body. If you end up with stripped threads on one side, just flip it over and you just saved yourself a new wheel build. Unless you are just going for aesthetics/hipster points, then just toss some money at whatever.

Also you can change gearing much more easily on a double fixed hub. But what the hey, this thread is two years old and could have ended as soon as someone said "Yes."

Also you can change gearing much more easily on a double fixed hub. But what the hey, this thread is two years old and could have ended as soon as someone said "Yes."

Well, I'm still curious which single sided fixed hubs will build up with zero dish. I could have started a new thread to ask that, but it's better to ask in here.

Why is the dish an issue if you can't flip the wheel around anyway?

http://www.pedalconsumption.com/files/review_halo_fix_t_cover.html

http://www.pedalconsumption.com/files/review_halo_fix_t_cover2.jpg

Link does not work. I'm interested in these threaded hub covers also.

http://www.retro-gression.com/product/halo-fix-t-cover

http://www.retro-gression.com/product/halo-fix-t-cover

"Do the unused threads on the other side of your flip/flop hub keep you up at night? Cover them little bastards up!"


haha

http://www.retro-gression.com/product/halo-fix-t-cover

I've got a black one of those. I wish I could still find the silver. I've only seen silver on a couple sketchy international sites.


"Do the unused threads on the other side of your flip/flop hub keep you up at night? Cover them little bastards up!"


haha

Yes, they bother me...even covered up :|

I've got a black one of those. I wish I could still find the silver. I've only seen silver on a couple sketchy international sites.

For some reason, Halo stopped making them in silver. You could always soak one in oven cleaner and remove the anodized finish.

:thumb:

Which ones do?
I'd like a single sided fixed hub that's symmetric.
There's a nice Phil Wood wheelset on ebay that may do the trick.

Mack
Phil Wood ISO

271639Mine isn't flip flop but it's also custom made from LDG and only on their 700C bike.

I wish some one would over design a bicycle, and misspell group.

lulz.

no, he didnt.

he said surly, forumla, xxx, all make fixed/fixed hubs.

then edited it.

then tried to make me look stupid.

pathetic.

You do know that fixed/fixed is still flip flop, right? To most its actually the preferred flip-flop arrangement. You can thread a freewheel on the fixed side just fine. You don't need a lockring.

I wish some one would over design a bicycle, and misspell group.

Their track ends scare me. They just look weak as hell.

Their track ends scare me. They just look weak as hell.

Whose?