Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Drilling for Internal Cable Routing on Bullhorns

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aaronjg
10-07-10, 04:27 AM
I've got a pair of nitto bullhorns, and I recently picked up some used SRAM bar end brakes with internal cable routing. Like these:
http://www.amazon.com/TT900-Bicycle-Brake-Lever-Carbon/dp/B0012MVMSY

I have read mixed things about drilling handlebars for cable routing. It seems like people recommend against it on principle, but I haven't read of anybody having a problem with it in principle.

Has anybody done this successfully? Anybody had any problems with it?


leed
10-07-10, 05:28 AM
I believe it can be done, safely.. But it would take some research and some analysis of your bar. But honestly, if it's steel, I think you can safely get away with it. For the most part, stay as far away from the stem as possible, as you will find this is where there is the most stress.

If it's a risk you're willing to take, go for it. Someone had to take this risk to begin with, right? (for there to be internal cable routing at all, and then I'm sure they tested it, and either stuck with it, or improved on it). If you're not willing to take it, a set of bull horns with internal cable routing can be had for not much money at all.

aaronjg
10-07-10, 05:54 AM
They are aluminum bars. I'm willing to the risk of damaging them (or I wouldn't even be asking). Just wondering if people here had previous experience.

What bullhorns with internal cable routing are you thinking about? It might be cheaper than having the LBS drilling out my current bars.


gt35built
10-07-10, 06:07 AM
Did you check with your LBS to see of they would do that? I doubt they are going to take the risk (liability and trashing your bars) for the few bucks they would make on the deal.

You would have to drill the hole at atleast a 45 degree angle perpendicular to part of the bar you are drilling, in order for the cable to pull through and not kink.

Retro Grouch
10-07-10, 07:03 AM
If it's a risk you're willing to take, go for it. Someone had to take this risk to begin with, right? (for there to be internal cable routing at all, and then I'm sure they tested it, and either stuck with it, or improved on it).

OR - they might be dead and consequently unable to warn the rest of us.

Jubokko
10-07-10, 03:11 PM
Here's some cheap bullhorns that are pre drilled... I'm actually thinking about picking up a pair.

http://store.icyclesusa.com/profile-stoker-26-tt-handlebar-260-40cm-p23507.aspx

Lilcphoto
10-07-10, 04:10 PM
I have a set of pre drilled Profile Design Bullhorns that have two holes, which kind of hide the cable, but not enough... Feels good right at the bend though

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_CwB7pTiEi9U/TKN05ih0a8I/AAAAAAAAAH0/HP5ITst8uqI/s800/Bike%20024.JPG

Incoherentfool
10-07-10, 08:49 PM
I did it with my bullhorns. I wouldn't worry about it. I never mash with my hands all the way at the ends anyway. And the hole is on the side of the bar, where the stress is pretty low to begin with. Just keep the holes near the ends and you'll be fine.

If I die, I'll let you know.

OUgreen
10-07-10, 09:36 PM
I have done this as well. I drilled them at about a 70 degree angle on the inside of the left bar about 2" from the end where I was sure there would be no stress at the drill point. It has worked very well or me.

XianRL
10-08-10, 12:24 AM
If I die, I'll let you know.

Ha!

aaronjg
10-08-10, 06:16 AM
I have a set of pre drilled Profile Design Bullhorns that have two holes, which kind of hide the cable, but not enough... Feels good right at the bend though

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_CwB7pTiEi9U/TKN05ih0a8I/AAAAAAAAAH0/HP5ITst8uqI/s800/Bike%20024.JPG

LBS said that they could do it, but if pre-drilled bullhorns are that cheap, I might just get a new set. Lilc- where are the holes drilled?

leed
10-08-10, 06:25 AM
OR - they might be dead and consequently unable to warn the rest of us.

This, is also very true, haha.


LBS said that they could do it, but if pre-drilled bullhorns are that cheap, I might just get a new set. Lilc- where are the holes drilled?

If my vision serves me correctly, those are the Air Wing. The inlet hole is the same as the other bar posted here
http://www.nexternal.com/icycles/images/stoker26bar.jpg

The exit hole is about an inch in from the bend on the bottom of the bar. I have the similarly designed T2 Wing, but I really don't like the inlet hole's placement (it's kind of awkward to run a cable/housing that way, and it doesn't quite make sense) but I ride brakeless now anyways. EDIT: I forgot you have those SRAM levers, so the inlets won't be an issue for you!

Here is another Profile set that are drilled (and grooved) for cable routing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/PROFILE-DESIGN-AIRWING-OS-TRI-42cm-Bike-Handlebars-NEW-/400161818680?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d2b80c838#ht_5174wt_1141

ismellfish2
10-08-10, 07:43 AM
I drilled a set of flop and chops that were steel and extremely thick- too thick in fact to fit a reverse lever's plug inside the end of the bar. I used a campy aero lever out at the very end of the bar, and I did some grinding inside the lever to allow the cable and housing to exit towards the bottom of the lever instead of the top like aero levers are designed to do. (I guess this doesn't matter to anyone using reverse levers, but whatever.) I didn't have to cut the actual shell (the part the hood covers) because the housing entered the bar in a spot hidden underneath the lever- I just cut the horizontal brace inside the lever to let the housing cut the angle more gently.

Done this way, on the bar you just put in a notch an inch down from the end with a grinder (I think a notch is better than a drill hole because the housing can pass into the bar at an angle), and another down near the stem. I would be very leery of doing this on anything aluminum- my bars don't feel any different and have held up thus far. Aluminum bars I've used before were very noticeably more flexy than these without being cut. When manufacturers make bars with internal routing, they add internal bracing to get away with using aluminum.

I like the internal routing a lot- this way the bar is symmetrical with just one brake. The housing exits under the wrap an inch up from where it ends, then cleanly sweeps down to the brake. I haven't noticed any increased drag or sticking on the brake cable, from the added bends. I'll get a picture when I have access to a camera.

Lilcphoto
10-08-10, 08:49 AM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_CwB7pTiEi9U/TK8vU6HH0-I/AAAAAAAAANg/lWQ2llf28bM/s800/IMG_0001.JPG

aaronjg
10-08-10, 10:50 AM
I've got a pair of SRAM barends where the cable exits the plug, so I was wondering where the exit hole is. I would just be taping over the entrance hole.

Lilcphoto
10-08-10, 12:59 PM
It is 2.5 inches up from the bend... on the inside of the bar.

blickblocks
10-08-10, 02:19 PM
The issue of cable is why I ended up ditching bar end brakes for cross brakes.

Lilcphoto
10-08-10, 02:57 PM
Bar end brakes can be easily hidden, but yes cross brakes are a lot easier to adjust