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Despite Apple's overpriced hardware, extremely closed system which lacks a bunch of key features, un-useable computers and phones and Steve Jobs arrogance, Apple broke the $300 mark today :(

http://www.9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Picture-73.png

p.s. Dammit! I created another Apple thread! :cry:

I should go back in time and invest in Apple when they first started publicly trading...

Yay for my stock portfolio! :beer:

Only makes me loathe them even more. :p

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2010/10/13/111724-back_to_the_mac_invite.jpg

Looks like there's a mac related event on the 20th. Mac OS X Lion anyone? :D

I should go back in time and invest in Apple when they first started publicly trading...


Lieutenant Dan made Forrest a go-zillionare investing in Apple. They had more money than Davy Crockett. Thats all I've got to say about that.

Lieutenant Dan made Forrest a go-zillionare investing in Apple. They had more money than Davy Crockett. Thats all I've got to say about that.

I thought Davy ate squirrels, 'ppossums, and the like.

that sucks.

- sent from my iphone/ipad/macbook pro/using airport extreme base station/typed with blue tooth keyboard/magic mouse/apple batteries charged with apple battery charger.


Despite Apple's overpriced hardware, extremely closed system which lacks a bunch of key features, un-useable computers and phones and Steve Jobs arrogance, Apple broke the $300 mark today :(

http://www.9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Picture-73.png

p.s. Dammit! I created another Apple thread! :cry:

The stock will be over $375 by Q4 2011. I'd buy more, but it's already too high a % of my holdings.

Here are some key factors that scream 'upside' on this stock:

• Apple only has something like 4% of global computer market share. That's 96% blue sky, in case the arithmetic challenges you.

• Apple only gets 10% of its current revenues from Asia. Wow.

• iPhones and iPads sales are exploding without much Asian exposure. Apple is opening 20+ stores in China in the next 12 months.

• The projected market for smart phones and tablet computers is about one BILLION units. Yikes.

Figure it out. It's your money.

The stock will be over $375 by Q4 2011.

Just imagine if Apple improves its position as the 4th biggest personal computer maker (behind Dell, HP, and Acer). They've cracked the 10% barrier. The possibilities are endless.

Just imagine if Apple improves its position as the 4th biggest personal computer maker (behind Dell, HP, and Acer). They've cracked the 10% barrier. The possibilities are endless.

I think personal computers have had very little if any to do with AAPL's performance over the past year or two or five.

^^^ That is a very interesting point. I wonder what percentage of their current revenues are computers/software as opposed to the phones and media players.

Just imagine if Apple improves its position as the 4th biggest personal computer maker (behind Dell, HP, and Acer). They've cracked the 10% barrier. The possibilities are endless.

Just imagine if you grasped the fact that Apple will surpass all those firms by virtue of the millions upon millions of tiny, profitable computers (iphones, ipads, ipods) they sell that don't factor into the market share stat you are obsessed with. And on every one they sell you the hardware, the software, and then they get a healthy % on all the applications that consumers purchase for them. That's profitable.

In the meantime their market share for traditional computers keeps growing. iPad cannibalize Macbook sales? Not yet. Mac sales up 20%+ quarter over quarter.

Read it and weep you Apple hating imbeciles.

Despite Apple's overpriced hardware, extremely closed system which lacks a bunch of key features, un-useable computers and phones and Steve Jobs arrogance, Apple broke the $300 mark today :(

http://www.9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Picture-73.png

p.s. Dammit! I created another Apple thread! :cry:

:rolleyes:

Posted from my Hackintosh running OSX.6.3 connected to my Android phone. It's all technology. It's all a tool. Get over yourself.

Just imagine if you grasped the fact that Apple will surpass all those firms by virtue of the millions upon millions of tiny, profitable computers (iphones, ipads, ipods) they sell that don't factor into the market share stat you are obsessed with. And on every one they sell you the hardware, the software, and then they get a healthy % on all the applications that consumers purchase for them. That's profitable.

It's all jam yesterday and jam tomorrow. Apple is always on the verge of taking over the world, yet somehow winds up on the sidelines. The whole Android iOS thing is already repeating the old MacOS Windoze story, though I'll grant that the percentages they take in the App Store (i.e. taking a pretty hefty share of work done by others) seems a good model for keeping them rolling in dough. Always good to make money off the work of others if you can.

But the average person who doesn't own the stock shouldn't care who makes money and who doesn't. They also should not care who makes the crap they use any more than they obsess over who makes their dishwasher, TV, or the transmission in their car.

iPads seem to be popular in the business world and the base price isn't too bad. What I don't get is why I keep seeing people lugging a laptop and an ipad on business trips (naturally, they have plenty of accessories for the ipad such as the stand and bluetooth keyboard). If the ipad is so great for business, you should be able to leave the laptop at home. And then despite having all this electronic crap, they ask me if I have a dongle because they can't connect to the projector....

:rolleyes:

Posted from my Hackintosh running OSX.6.3 connected to my Android phone. It's all technology. It's all a tool. Get over yourself.

Macs are THE tool ;)


Just imagine if Apple improves its position as the 4th biggest personal computer maker (behind Dell, HP, and Acer). They've cracked the 10% barrier. The possibilities are endless.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/13/idc-apples-now-third-largest-pc-vendor-in-us-with-10-6-percent/

Meh HP, Dell, Apple they all use Intel hardware. :lol:

:cry: I told my dad to buy in at $8, back around the Amelio days -- he did not :cry: :cry: :cry:

Apple is always on the verge of taking over the world, yet somehow winds up on the sidelines

You really are astonishingly delusional. Apple has been more 'on the verge of going out of business' for half of its existence. Its current status is quite recent. Their domestic computer market share just bumped up over 10%, they are 17,000 units away from being the 3rd largest computer manufacturer, and their mobile computing mojo threatens to dominate the landscape going forward. They have never been in that position before in their history. They are poised to become the largest tech company in the world within 5 years (they should pass Microsoft next year, after that I think only HP and IBM would remain, and those companies don't have the organic growth of Apple).

'Sidelines'? Yeah, ok. We'll see about that.

What dividends are you earning off your apple shares patentcad?

I will declare that I am using an early G5 powermac but when it comes to owning shares then business is business.

If the share price is rising skywards but the dividends are paltry then its a bubble boys and you better get off when the going is good.

Anthony

They are poised to become the largest tech company in the world within 5 years (they should pass Microsoft next year, after that I think only HP and IBM would remain, and those companies don't have the organic growth of Apple).

'Sidelines'? Yeah, ok. We'll see about that.
They were the first ones to figure out how significant a force mobile computing will be, but a lot can happen in 5 years, so we will see. The iphone was a big hit, but we'll see how fast that grows now that decent alternatives are appearing and people are turning to them.

The ipad still has no competition and strong sales of that have made the stock soar recently. But the hype surrounding that product is enormous, and the equilibrium point may be at a significantly lower level than early sales numbers suggest. For example, Apple is selling a lot of ipads to businesses. However, the only thing I'm really seeing people use them for in that sphere is taking notes and screwing around. Someone will figure out that's not good ROI and quit approving purchases since the functionality is covered by other things they already have to buy.

pcad might very well be right about the stock price going up to $375. Verizon will start selling iPads in two weeks (http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/14/technology/verizon_ipad/index.htm?cnn=yes). A CDMA iPhone can't be far behind.

For example, Apple is selling a lot of ipads to businesses. However, the only thing I'm really seeing people use them for in that sphere is taking notes and screwing around.

We've bought a bunch of them here... and that's about the feedback we're getting from the staff. I can't wait to see what happens when they start loaning them out to the instructors and students... just to see how they can be used in education. My guess: taking notes and screwing around is the answer.

AutoCAD has been officially released for the Mac :)

http://www.autodesk.com/autocadformac.

$314.74 at close of trading today. I had sold my stock, but said to myself 'I believe in this company, this stock is going to $400 if the stock market doesn't totally tank'. So I bought back in @ $260.

That worked.

I've always wanted to own and control the primary technology in everything we do. Steve Jobs (http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Steve_Jobs/), BusinessWeek Online, Oct. 12, 2004
US computer engineer & industrialist (1955 - ) :roflmao2:

AutoCAD has been officially released for the Mac

AutoCAD used to be available for the Mac, then they got out of that market.




un-useable computers and phones

I was trying to talk to my daughter this afternoon and my iphone4 lost the call 4 times. I was sitting in my house with 3 bars on the signal meter.

Remember the fits pitched in the design world when Quark announced "Sorry, no Mac version of XPress this time."

Of course, they came to their senses shortly after that.

Isn't AutoCAD like a $4000 piece of software? We use Adobe Illustrator, but we have to import Acad files often.

Apple announces their quarterly results on Monday. It will be interesting to see what the stock does after that.

I feel everyone's pain tough. I bought in at $54. What a fanboy sucker I was, eh?
And yea, Autocad is very expensive. My architecture firm clients are now jumping for joy.

Oh I can't wait for the next big shakeup!

I'm waiting for the student version of AutoCAD which is like $200

I'm waiting for the student version of AutoCAD which is like $200

I know it sounds crazy, but what works best for most places is to choose platforms based on ability to run what they need rather than choose the platform based on a personal preference and hope the software becomes available.

I know it sounds crazy, but what works best for most places is to choose platforms based on ability to run what they need rather than choose the platform based on a personal preference and hope the software becomes available.

I know it sounds crazy but I actually chose the Mac OS because it worked well enough that I didn't have to hurt my foot kicking the computer out of frustration anymore. There is not a Single piece of software that I miss due to it not being available for the Mac. AutoCAD is more for personal use (wan't to learn how to use it again) rather than for work, hence the student edition.

Everything works flawlessly. I've got VLC and Mplayer so there practically isn't a video format that I cannot play. I've got the whole Adobe Creative suite so that area is covered for my photography. The iWork suite works very well and the out putted documents are fully PC compatible (not to mention I can save files as PDF's) so I'm covered in that area. Things rarely freeze, blue screens (or the Mac version there of) never appear, 'beach balls' are minimal which basically means I'm one happy camper :)

So apparently the real reason no iPad competitors have surfaced from other companies is they are all having a hell of a time getting the touch screen interface to work And Steve Jobs is right. Anything smaller than a 9.5-10" screen (that's the iPad's screen size) won't work so great. I agree.

Apple has invented a new, compelling and attractive computing model and nobody else can even touch it. In the next three months they'll be selling it in Wal Mart. And Target. And friggin CHINA.

The stock sold off on the quarterly report yesterday. Opportunity. Buy some. It's going to $400. I really don't see what's going to stop them. Hell, they even cracked 10% market share in domestic computer sales this quarter.

Apple has invented a new, compelling and attractive computing model and nobody else can even touch it. In the next three months they'll be selling it in Wal Mart. And Target. And friggin CHINA.

The stock sold off on the quarterly report yesterday. Opportunity. Buy some. It's going to $400. I really don't see what's going to stop them.
If people start buying them instead of notebooks (and they are a reasonable substitute for many people), good for Apple.

It's hard to tell what's going on because Apple's hype machine is second to none. I stick by my assessment that the huge inflow of ipads into the business world is a fad. I can imagine some legitimate uses, but everything I'm actually seeing is people with access to accounts screwing around.

I like watching bubbles, but don't like blowing my money on them

I like watching bubbles, but don't like blowing my money on them

It's hardly a bubble. Now your head, that looks like a friggin bubble.

'Apple hype machine'? I get my info from mainstream media sources, some of which are highly skeptical of anything Apple related. Apple itself does acknowledge that there appears to be some cannibalization of laptop sales by the iPad, but Mac sales keep growing anyway. That's because Macs don't suck nearly as hard as Windows machines. Duh.

'Apple hype machine'? I get my info from mainstream media sources, some of which are highly skeptical of anything Apple related.....

...That's because Macs don't suck nearly as hard as Windows machines. Duh.
That's just because there aren't enough crappy apps to bog them down yet. If macs ever became the dominant platform, people would install so much junk they wouldn't run, regardless of the security model.

Excellent use of the mainstream media is part of the hype machine. For example, it's easy to find speculation about what Apple will announce next. Since when should the population at large care about the PR events or incremental improvements to individual products by any single company?

It's hard to tell what's going on because Apple's hype machine is second to none. I stick by my assessment that the huge inflow of ipads into the business world is a fad. I

People said that of the iPhone and the ipod too. They're still around :)

Businesses are starting to adopt them; I think iPads be around for quite some time.

My condolences on Tom Bosley's passing.

If competitors fail to field a real competitor to the iPad soon the fiscal rewards that will accrue to Apple and its shareholders will make the iPod business look like a friggin lemonade stand. And that is precisely what appears to be very possible going forward. Stay tuned.

I like it when shareholders act as if a good performing stock is a reliable indicator of the stock's performance into perpetuity. I remember when people were doing it with Sony, I remember it with Tyco, etc. If Apple really did have a monopoly on reverse engineered UFO hardware the way some of you imply, that'd be one thing, but this is largely a matter of fads and marketing, which can be notoriously fickle to companies who come to rely on them. BTW, I have an old pair of Crocs for sale. PM me.

I like it when shareholders act as if a good performing stock is a reliable indicator of the stock's performance into perpetuity. I remember when people were doing it with Sony, I remember it with Tyco, etc. If Apple really did have a monopoly on reverse engineered UFO hardware the way some of you imply, that'd be one thing, but this is largely a matter of fads and marketing, which can be notoriously fickle to companies who come to rely on them. BTW, I have an old pair of Crocs for sale. PM me.

Yet the philosophies of Apple are totally different from Sony's and Tyco's :)

Yet the philosophies of Apple are totally different from Sony's and Tyco's :)
Ahh yes. The time tested model of giving everyone the same thing. It worked for the Model T and Mickey D's does well selling the same crap.

The iphone is the smartphone to end all smartphones. I'm sure teenagers -- who show a very strong preference for phones with keyboards (http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/u-s-teen-mobile-report-calling-yesterday-texting-today-using-apps-tomorrow/) -- will all convert when they realize it's all just about Apple figuring out the best way for everyone.

The iphone is the smartphone to end all smartphones. I'm sure teenagers -- who show a very strong preference for phones with keyboards (http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/u-s-teen-mobile-report-calling-yesterday-texting-today-using-apps-tomorrow/) -- will all convert when they realize it's all just about Apple figuring out the best way for everyone.

You got it! :D

I like it when shareholders act as if a good performing stock is a reliable indicator of the stock's performance into perpetuity.

My bullish stance on APPL has more to do with real growth potential going forward. If you don't get Apple, we can just wait and see whether the stock is $600 by 2012 or $100. I know what I think.

But then I bought it @ $80. I didn't miss the last $220/share move. If anything the upside may be greater now than it was in 2007 or so when I first bought the shares.

How much cash does Apple have now? So much so that they could buy friggin Disney, with a market cap of about $65 billion. Apple has $51 billion of that on hand today. That's rather amazing.

Stock dropped over 1% yesterday on what could be seen as good news from the company. Is the "pop" near?

At least the description of the new macbook air is decent. Instant on, good performance and batt life, small size, and even the price isn't totally insane for what you get. I'll have to check it out. In the event I actually get one, I will not become a mac person. I will never associate myself with any company's products.

At least the description of the new macbook air is decent. Instant on, good performance and batt life, small size, and even the price isn't totally insane for what you get. I'll have to check it out. In the event I actually get one, I will not become a mac person. I will never associate myself with any company's products.

I'd get one too but I'd rather buy a camera lens:p