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netdetector
10-17-10, 07:29 PM
hello, I need your opinion on the value and the sale of my three bikes:

1) Aquila: vittoria, campagnolo, galli , selle italia, red, ofomega, 3ttt, nisi gommitalia, risi, rino, gipiemme;

2) campagnolo/wander (campagnolo is a frame!): cinelli, modolo, universal, campagnolo, shieffield, gommitalia, ofmega, cimatti, nisi, itm italia, san marco (very old bike with a rear tire slightly wrong and missing a tooth to the crown);

3) columbus/benotto: benotto, exage, mich�, panacer, campagnolo, reg corsa, aris, zeus ambrosi, modolo corsa, san marco, sr;

Please watch the video and thank you very much for your help.

ciao

Federico

norsa@gallerianorsa.jp


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOoXfW02654

repechage
10-18-10, 09:14 AM
I will be honest, I got bored with the vid about 30 seconds in. The initial blue bike is probably a good size, the text notes are not readable at a size I can load. It has second tier equipment, the frame is more interesting but suffers from lack of recognition in the USA. It appears in good shape, $380. US tops.

I never got beyond that.
T-Mar
10-18-10, 10:05 AM
All the bicycles struck me as late 1970s, mid-range at best and nothing 100% original. That e-mail address indicates the OP is in Japan, and if so, I wouldn't have any idea as to market conditions and the values.

netdetector
10-19-10, 06:40 AM
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thanks for your opinion
I put the photos below of the bikes

ciao

Federico
Bianchigirll
10-19-10, 07:08 AM
I don't believe Campagnolo ever actually made frames, just dropouts and fork ends used by other frame builders.

I sort of like the middle bike, but it looks big for a 57. are you selling these or buying?

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=174421&d=1287491882
netdetector
10-19-10, 07:44 AM
levers, pedals, bands and crown are Campagnolo (see red line) while the frame is columbus and is 61 cm (sorry I am no expert and I put the internal measures to tubes)

I'm selling, please watch this video to understand:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TatmGBR0l0Q

Federico
netdetector
10-20-10, 04:30 AM
Bianchigirll: sorry the campagnolo frame (red bike) is as you say: I read the written campagnolo forks front and back and I thought it was for the frame, but I obviously wrong.
keidal
12-13-11, 04:58 PM
Hello, I also got bored with these photographs but I did notice that one hub in particular had the initials FB on it. FB is Fratelli Brevio [Fratelli Brothers] who were precision engineers and it is said that they actually manufactured hubs etc. in the 1930's for Campagnolo. The date of manufacture is usually stamped on the outer face of the cones.
I don't understand what the reference to Cimatti is because as far as I know, they manufactured high quality frames in Milan.