adlai
10-19-10, 07:21 AM
I'm looking for a kickstand for my bike. It's a cyclocross, 58cm frame, 700c tires. Advice?
Bicycle Mechanics - best bike kick stand?
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fietsbob
10-19-10, 09:59 AM
ESGE Pletsher makes a range of them .. Swiss
But cross bike have no designed in place to mount one, so that is a problem.
greenfield another manufacturer US
and there is the click [Prop]-stand, http://www.click-stand.com/ (http://www.click-stand.com/)
it is a bring with rather than mount on, stand.
like a tent pole with a fork on one end of it. props up the bike..
then you hold the front brake on with a band around the lever, so I wont roll ..
Touring section was discussing those.
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?670434-kickstands
But cross bike have no designed in place to mount one, so that is a problem.
greenfield another manufacturer US
and there is the click [Prop]-stand, http://www.click-stand.com/ (http://www.click-stand.com/)
it is a bring with rather than mount on, stand.
like a tent pole with a fork on one end of it. props up the bike..
then you hold the front brake on with a band around the lever, so I wont roll ..
Touring section was discussing those.
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?670434-kickstands
FBinNY
10-19-10, 10:32 AM
IMO the best kickstand is none, especially for a cross bike. Kickstands lull bike owners into a false sense of security, and all to often bikes fall over, because of a gust of wind, or being bumped into. Find a wall, tree, fence or something else secure to lean your bike on, and you won't be having to pay to have the RD hanger straightened because of a fallen bike.
I said especially on a cross bike, because while kickstands may be OK on flat pavement, they're totally useless on dirt or grass, where the tips sink in. Likewise they don't work well on sloping surfaces where the angle may be beyond their stable range.
I said especially on a cross bike, because while kickstands may be OK on flat pavement, they're totally useless on dirt or grass, where the tips sink in. Likewise they don't work well on sloping surfaces where the angle may be beyond their stable range.
HillRider
10-19-10, 10:45 AM
IMO the best kickstand is none, especially for a cross bike. Kickstands lull bike owners into a false sense of security, and all to often bikes fall over, because of a gust of wind, or being bumped into. Find a wall, tree, fence or something else secure to lean your bike on, and you won't be having to pay to have the RD hanger straightened because of a fallen bike.
I said especially on a cross bike, because while kickstands may be OK on flat pavement, they're totally useless on dirt or grass, where the tips sink in. Likewise they don't work well on sloping surfaces where the angle may be beyond their stable range.
I fully agree on "none" and not because of the "Fredness" they imply. As noted, they are not secure even on hard surfaces, nevermind dirt and other soft surfaces. Also, they add unneeded weight and can damage frame tubes if installed incorrectly.
If nothing else is available as a support, you can always lay the bike down on the non-drive side with no harm.
I said especially on a cross bike, because while kickstands may be OK on flat pavement, they're totally useless on dirt or grass, where the tips sink in. Likewise they don't work well on sloping surfaces where the angle may be beyond their stable range.
I fully agree on "none" and not because of the "Fredness" they imply. As noted, they are not secure even on hard surfaces, nevermind dirt and other soft surfaces. Also, they add unneeded weight and can damage frame tubes if installed incorrectly.
If nothing else is available as a support, you can always lay the bike down on the non-drive side with no harm.
fietsbob
10-19-10, 11:57 AM
just don't pack anything you need while riding on the left side of the bike ,
because the load will always be on the ground, when you set it down ..
because the load will always be on the ground, when you set it down ..
2_i
10-19-10, 12:32 PM
Hebie bipod (http://www.hebie.de/bidop-stand-605.hebie605.0.html?&L=1) kickstand is particularly solid.
fietsbob
10-19-10, 12:38 PM
So is Esge's 2 legged , but a KS will deform frame tubes when mounted on the frame,
that may not matter, to you or it will.
My Koga WTR had a mounting plate welded on the frame when it was built.
that may not matter, to you or it will.
My Koga WTR had a mounting plate welded on the frame when it was built.
2_i
10-19-10, 12:46 PM
So is Esge's 2 legged , but a KS will deform frame tubes when mounted on the frame,
that may not matter, to you or it will.
My Koga WTR had a mounting plate welded on the frame when it was built.
Esge is OK provided you do not place much load on the bicycle. Hebie sells this plate (http://www.hebie.de/retrofit-stand-plate-699-40.hebie69940.0.html?&L=1) that stabilizes the stand and protects the frame to a degree.
that may not matter, to you or it will.
My Koga WTR had a mounting plate welded on the frame when it was built.
Esge is OK provided you do not place much load on the bicycle. Hebie sells this plate (http://www.hebie.de/retrofit-stand-plate-699-40.hebie69940.0.html?&L=1) that stabilizes the stand and protects the frame to a degree.
Bezalel
10-19-10, 01:12 PM
Esge is OK provided you do not place much load on the bicycle. Hebie sells this plate (http://www.hebie.de/retrofit-stand-plate-699-40.hebie69940.0.html?&L=1) that stabilizes the stand and protects the frame to a degree.
Who sells Hebie products in the USA? I have the Esge/Pletscher double kickstand but I don't like the way is is currently mounted. (My front derailleur has a bottom clamp and my largest chainring is 44t so I don't have room for the Deluxe top plate.)
Who sells Hebie products in the USA? I have the Esge/Pletscher double kickstand but I don't like the way is is currently mounted. (My front derailleur has a bottom clamp and my largest chainring is 44t so I don't have room for the Deluxe top plate.)
2_i
10-19-10, 01:56 PM
Who sells Hebie products in the USA? I have the Esge/Pletscher double kickstand but I don't like the way is is currently mounted. (My front derailleur has a bottom clamp and my largest chainring is 44t so I don't have room for the Deluxe top plate.)
Their representative used to be Persons Majestic (http://www.permaco.com/), but that representation never properly worked. Currently you can get selected Hebie products from other vendors such as Yuba (http://www.yubaride.com/yubashop/14-b.html). As to your tight situation, I am not sure Hebie will help. Myself, I changed the derailleur and changed cable routing to relieve congestion around the bottom bracket.
Their representative used to be Persons Majestic (http://www.permaco.com/), but that representation never properly worked. Currently you can get selected Hebie products from other vendors such as Yuba (http://www.yubaride.com/yubashop/14-b.html). As to your tight situation, I am not sure Hebie will help. Myself, I changed the derailleur and changed cable routing to relieve congestion around the bottom bracket.
fietsbob
10-19-10, 02:29 PM
Esge has more stuff on their website, that may not be imported, from them.