Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - New, Lugged, Steel, track frame with chrome/diff color lugs?

http://www.peregrinecyclery.com/images/Products/Leader/Frames/leaderhandmade-L.jpg
http://www.dametruth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/vanness.jpg
http://www.maxway.com.tw/proimages/75450_b.jpg

soooo i have been throwing around the idea of eventually swapping out my frame, and i really happen to like both the lugged leader and soma van ness for many reasons, but lol...the main reason i hate to admit is the pretty silver lugs.

obviously there are those two, and i have found an image of a black one with silver lugs on the maxway website, but im not sure where that specific frame could be bought....

just curious, what other companies are making lugged steel frames with silver (or diff. color) lugs? preferably in the below $800 area, because im sure its easy to get whatever lugs you want if you go the custom route but it would cost a ton....

Leader FTW (but I bet you knew I'd say that ;)).

Polished stainless steel lugs? Check! Sexy dropouts w/ built in chain tensioners? Check! Chilled-out, road friendly geo? Check! Wallet-friendly price? Check!

The only drawback for some is that it's not drilled for brakes.

oh the leader is definitely at the top of my list.
when you say not drilled for brakes, is that referring to the fork or having no brake bridge or both?

btw ive heard you talk about maxway frames before. do they pretty much only make frames for other companies or do they sell their own maxway branded frames?

If you have a Dremel you could always try removing the paint from a fully painted lugged frame... Don't know if it would work exactly, but in theory it seems like it should.

As seen here (damn...this is a pretty bike), there is a brake bridge but it's not drilled:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/scrodzilla/luggedleader.jpg

As far as Maxway goes, I'm not sure if you can buy one (at least in the US) that hasn't been rebranded. You could always try contacting them directly.

http://www.maxway.com.tw/contact_us.php

If you have a Dremel you could always try removing the paint from a fully painted lugged frame... Don't know if it would work exactly, but in theory it seems like it should.

http://brentdiggs.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/BadIdea.jpg

Bob Jackson Vigorelli

The Vigorelli is a nice frame but does it have chrome or different-colored lugs?

Leader FTW (but I bet you knew I'd say that ;)).

Polished stainless steel lugs? Check! Sexy dropouts w/ built in chain tensioners? Check! Chilled-out, road friendly geo? Check! Wallet-friendly price? Check!

The only drawback for some is that it's not drilled for brakes.

The other downside is it's 1" Headtube/Steerer. But I suppose it's not too much of a downside, it can just make it difficult if you need something in a pinch.

The other downside is it's 1" Headtube/Steerer. But I suppose it's not too much of a downside, it can just make it difficult if you need something in a pinch.


$499.00 here.

http://www.leaderbikestore.com/pd-ld-hmt-2009-track-frame.cfm

As seen here (damn...this is a pretty bike), there is a brake bridge but it's not drilled:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/scrodzilla/luggedleader.jpg

As far as Maxway goes, I'm not sure if you can buy one (at least in the US) that hasn't been rebranded. You could always try contacting them directly.

http://www.maxway.com.tw/contact_us.php

its really not, but that seems like a long fork.

As seen here (damn...this is a pretty bike), there is a brake bridge but it's not drilled:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/scrodzilla/luggedleader.jpg

As far as Maxway goes, I'm not sure if you can buy one (at least in the US) that hasn't been rebranded. You could always try contacting them directly.

http://www.maxway.com.tw/contact_us.php


TI'm going to have to agree with Scrod, thats one sexy ***** right there! (the bike not Scrod)

The Vigorelli is a nice frame but does it have chrome or different-colored lugs?

http://velospace.org/files/no1copy.jpg

riding a ghost bike is bad form.

e-mailed maxway regarding their lugged steel track frame. I'll let you know if I hear anything. I think it looks exactly the same as Leaders. Too bad the leader only comes in white with 1 inch head tube.

e-mailed maxway regarding their lugged steel track frame. I'll let you know if I hear anything. I think it looks exactly the same as Leaders. Too bad the leader only comes in white with 1 inch head tube.

I never owned a FG/SS with a 1 inch head tube so I like it.

$499.00 here.

http://www.leaderbikestore.com/pd-ld-hmt-2009-track-frame.cfm

The issue was not the availability of the frame, but of parts for it. A lot of stores (locally anyways) don't carry a whole bunch for 1" threadless, if at all. So say your headset goes bust, and you need one, you're pretty much SOL as far as getting something from a local store the moment you need it. Granted, chances of needing a headset ASAP are slim to none, but in the chance it happens, it would be irritating at that particular point in time.

At the same time, however, if your local store does have 1" threadless parts (spacers, stems, random little things like this) it's possible they'll let it go for dirt cheap just to get rid of it since it's been sitting for so long.

I never owned a FG/SS with a 1 inch head tube so I like it.

I realized something. I don't like things to be any more difficult then they have to be. So If I can avoid an odd sizing on my bike i'll be all the happier.

Bob Jackson Vigorelli

This.

Scrod is my mother.

Scrod is my mother.

:lol: What???

which makes vixtor your father.

just kidding of course.

I'm filing a divorce.

:fight:

But who will get custody?

:lol:

I knew you'd make that your sig.

You can have him, I don't want no stinkin, frame ruinin, spray paintin kid.

The issue was not the availability of the frame, but of parts for it. A lot of stores (locally anyways) don't carry a whole bunch for 1" threadless, if at all. So say your headset goes bust, and you need one, you're pretty much SOL as far as getting something from a local store the moment you need it. Granted, chances of needing a headset ASAP are slim to none, but in the chance it happens, it would be irritating at that particular point in time.

At the same time, however, if your local store does have 1" threadless parts (spacers, stems, random little things like this) it's possible they'll let it go for dirt cheap just to get rid of it since it's been sitting for so long.


So you save the **** you may need before you need it, I have enough 1 inch stems and headsets to last me a life time, along with 27 1-1/4 inch tires. :thumb: also, I don't think they're that hard to find. http://www.google.com/search?q=1+inch+headset&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADFA_en#sclient=psy&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7ADFA_en&q=1+inch+threaded+headset&aq=f&aqi=g1g-m1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=444d6326654cadfa

http://www.google.com/search?q=1+inch+threaded+stem&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADFA_en#sclient=psy&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7ADFA_en&q=1+inch+quill+stem+njs&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=444d6326654cadfa

just be sure to buy more than one of each. ;0)

I realized something. I don't like things to be any more difficult then they have to be. So If I can avoid an odd sizing on my bike i'll be all the happier.

See post directly above.

It's 1" threadless, btw.

It's 1" threadless, btw.

http://www.bikesurplus.com/catalog/1-ritchey-road-stem.htm

http://www.google.com/search?q=1+inch+threadless+headset&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADFA_en

one inch threadless isnt so hard to find unless you want a carbon fork.

http://i50.tinypic.com/2i8izx5.jpg

one inch threadless isnt so hard to find unless you want a carbon fork

they're around too, if you'll take taiwanese or know where to look for something nicer. eg: i just bought a new in the box 1" ouzo pro in exactly the rake i needed. seller has still has several more, many rakes, but mostly 43. there might have even been a 50 track rake in there. and maybe a year ago i was able to find another 1" ouzo in 650c wheel size for my wife.

indeed i have one too, but i should be more specific. one inch full carbon forks are hard to come by at a decent price.

you could always just get the fork threaded and run a quill stem. Would look way better on a lugged frame anyways

Unless I'm missing something, the link to purchase the bike lets you choose whether you want the fork threaded. I wouldn't consider 1" threaded "odd sizing."

It's 1" threadless, btw.

Hey Scrod, heres a pic from the Leader site, shows the frame with a 1 inch threaded. ;0)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/stumpyspic/white_steel_fixie_lores1-1.jpg

you can choose threadless or threaded one inch on the leader lugged....
i would go with threaded, quill stems are easy to come by and classy looking.
although i could go threadless and throw a cinelli alter on it lol

i just wish the front fork was drilled for a brake. oh wellz

This is what a classic lugged steel track bike should look like

how bout this?
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4495520062_153f7599bc.jpg

soma van ness...

honestly i think i like the leader the most for its price and quality and good looks, but no drilled fork thing sucks because i like having a front brake (oh my gawd im so unmanly boo hoo lol)
although not into the top tube braze ons on the van ness. i could definitely look past it though



oh and i found this frame...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs253.ash1/18045_395021125514_394734660514_10535538_3146571_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs253.ash1/18045_395021140514_394734660514_10535540_732701_n.jpg

sillgey cerchio....but i dunno much about them, and they are definitely hard to find online (to buy).....i sort of dig this....sparkly/black lugs on silver tubes?

I gotta say, my biggest gripe with all of these new lugged frames is the seat stay junction to the seat tube. Granted I understand they are inexpensive alternatives to hunting down a classic bike but they just look cheap. Look at a Casati or Masi lugged frame and then look at KILO, LEADER, etc etc.

how bout this?
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4495520062_153f7599bc.jpg

are my eyes deceiving me or are those rims half painted white?

are my eyes deceiving me or are those rims half painted white?

or just a really ****ing big black decal!

im liking this masi...

http://www.masibikes.com/gallery/albums/album-56/lg/495A8991.JPG

i dunno i just really like lugs i guess. but even more so if the lugs are pronounced like if different color or outlining....whats going on with this one? its the "naked" frame, so is that copper colored outlining from the process of creating the frame?

im liking this masi...

http://www.masibikes.com/gallery/albums/album-56/lg/495A8991.JPG

i dunno i just really like lugs i guess. but even more so if the lugs are pronounced like if different color or outlining....whats going on with this one? its the "naked" frame, so is that copper colored outlining from the process of creating the frame?

Two things I don't like about this frame. 1, no chrome lugs. 2, the track fork ends, I like the ones on the Leader a lot more.

I ate my words. If I could find it for ~550 shipped and taxed i'd likely pick up the masi. It's 631 Reynolds.

http://velospace.org/files/no1copy.jpg

riding a ghost bike is bad form.

Ugh.

are my eyes deceiving me or are those rims half painted white?

I think they are just polished, the inside of the top half is reflecting the asphalt and the lower half is reflecting the sky/clouds.

As for the parts thing, yes, the parts can be found online, the internet is an unlimited resource for things, but sometimes it is not convenient, that's all; but I suppose you can compensate for that by stocking up, as mentioned.

As for the carbon fork.. Performance bike sells the Kinesis fork rebranded as Forte Axis (Carbon forks, steel steerer for 1") for 80 dollars or so in 1" threadless.

I think they are just polished, the inside of the top half is reflecting the asphalt and the lower half is reflecting the sky/clouds.

As for the parts thing, yes, the parts can be found online, the internet is an unlimited resource for things, but sometimes it is not convenient, that's all; but I suppose you can compensate for that by stocking up, as mentioned.

As for the carbon fork.. Performance bike sells the Kinesis fork rebranded as Forte Axis (Carbon forks, steel steerer for 1") for 80 dollars or so in 1" threadless.


indeed i have one too, but i should be more specific. one inch full carbon forks are hard to come by at a decent price.

as for the thread, bob jackson vigorelli

theyre not full carbon. its the one inch carbon steerer that rare.

so i was kind of getting excited because i was seriously contemplating buying a Bob Jackson vigorelli (in metallic pearl white with red decals and black lug lining) but shipping to the states is 140 DOLLARS :(
the frame itself is 588 dollars, which seems like an incredible deal. but then the 140 dollars shipping is serious put off.

i am still looking at the leader lug, but the front fork is not drilled for brakes, and i want a front brake.
the soma van ness is nice too, but i dont like the TT braze ons.
was kind of digging the "nekkid" masi....it dosn't quite have lug lining, but its naked and the copper colored brazing or whatever looks like lining and looks cool....buuuut im still not sold on it.
i actually really like that maxway frame i posted first in black with silver lugs, but basically you cant buy that exact bike. its nowhere online, i emailed them about it and no response.
i sorta liked the sillgey in silver tubes with black-ish lugs, but i cant find it anywhere online and when i try to contact sillgey on help to find it, or i find a bike store that does have it and actually says they will ship frames, i dont get a response.

seriously, WTF is up with bike stores and frame companies never responding to emails? you would think that they would want to take easy business. someone is like "hey! i have money! i want to buy!" then you ignore them.
same thing happened with Pake, i tried to ask them a question about their newer frames and never got a response. why have a "contact" on their website at all?? sorry, *end rant*

anywho, anyone have any other suggestions for new lugged frames with either lug lining or diff colored lugs? pref below 700$?

anywho, anyone have any other suggestions for new lugged frames with either lug lining or diff colored lugs? pref below 700$?

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also: so despite costing 728 dollars total plus shipping for a bob jackson vigorelli, you still think its worth the price tag? its not like i can get one here in the states. 140 dollars shipping :( :( :(

my lbs happens to carry bob jacksons. im in alameda, next to oakland. im not sure on the price but theres at least 3 or 4 in there.

stones cyclery. make the drive from livermore?