Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - FUJI Classic Track

noticed they're like 479, only like 80 bucks more than a kilo tt. these any good? the chainring looks flimsy. hows the frame?

Not comparable to the Kilo TT. Basically, same bike as Windsor Hour, which sells for $280.

Also the same as a Motobecane Track, more or less, which is also $280.

As a lifestyle bike that you arent racing IMHO the fuji is better. I have tried out a friend's kilo tt and another friend's the hour. The kilo tt was harder for me to make turns in because the pedals hit the ground easily. If you re into a more track geometry i heard its better.
The hour on the other hand, felt a lot flimsier than my feather, which has the same frame as a classic track...
But for 500 I think the classic track is a bit overpriced. look for a sale...

Get the Kilo TT unless you want to pay for the Fuji brand name... its the same bike minus the brand name for which you're paying extra.

As a lifestyle bike that you arent racing IMHO the fuji is better. I have tried out a friend's kilo tt and another friend's the hour. The kilo tt was harder for me to make turns in because the pedals hit the ground easily. If you re into a more track geometry i heard its better.
The hour on the other hand, felt a lot flimsier than my feather, which has the same frame as a classic track...
But for 500 I think the classic track is a bit overpriced. look for a sale...

What planet are you from?

As a lifestyle bike that you arent racing IMHO the fuji is better. I have tried out a friend's kilo tt and another friend's the hour. The kilo tt was harder for me to make turns in because the pedals hit the ground easily. If you re into a more track geometry i heard its better.
The hour on the other hand, felt a lot flimsier than my feather, which has the same frame as a classic track...
But for 500 I think the classic track is a bit overpriced. look for a sale...

http://blog.vh1.com/files/2009/01/rcol_finale_we4_9.jpg

Get the Kilo TT unless you want to pay for the Fuji brand name... its the same bike minus the brand name for which you're paying extra.


We always rag on people who hit up the LBS to test ride frames/components, but somehow its ok for BD to completely cop another manufacturer's geometries...Found it real ironic in the Kilo WT thread when Mike claimed he was busy "designing" 60 new frames or something :lol:

The secret is BD bikes are made in the same Taiwan/China factories that produce frames for the bike brands.

So if the bike label isn't important to you, you get that bike minus the middleman markup costs that inflate the final retail price.

Get the Kilo TT unless you want to pay for the Fuji brand name... its the same bike minus the brand name for which you're paying extra.

They are completely different bikes.

Pardon my ignorance then. What BD bike is it comparable to?

Not comparable to the Kilo TT. Basically, same bike as Windsor Hour, which sells for $280.


Also the same as a Motobecane Track, more or less, which is also $280.
....

http://www.evanscycles.com/product_image/image/ba2/8ce/2dc/47903/product_page/fuji-classic-track-2010-single-speed-road-bike.jpg?1263265566

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/images/hour_blk_600.jpg

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/images/moto_track_600.jpg

The Kilo has very different geometry than the above bikes.

true.
http://www.pedalroom.com/p/2007-mercier-kilo-tt-1559_10.jpg

What planet are you from?

do you guys all drive a toyota or honda just because it gives you the most value for your money? how bout some variety here. seems like every entry level rider in this forum is pushed to a kilo tt. i wouldn't mind paying for a brand.

do you guys all drive a toyota or honda just because it gives you the most value for your money? how bout some variety here. seems like every entry level rider in this forum is pushed to a kilo tt. i wouldn't mind paying for a brand.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZrSY_ISn4w&feature=player_embedded

yeah, your performance bike fuji is SOOO unique :lol:

get a pk ripper. be different
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2248298/2/istockphoto_2248298-be-different.jpg

cc: that video is hilarious!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZrSY_ISn4w&feature=player_embedded

yeah, your performance bike fuji is SOOO unique :lol:

i know right??? -_- smh
you find a new video for each of your comments?

no this one just seemed to fit.

aint no sense listining to them haters cuz we whip em off


and driving a toyota or honda because it gives you the most value for your money is TOTALLY a legitimate justification for driving a toyota or honda. ain't much better validation than that. don't mean your acura CSX isn't a good bike, just means you can get the civic ex for much less.

seriously, your feather has a quill stem and nicer rims than the hour, but other than that it's the same. unless i'm missing something...

do you guys all drive a toyota or honda just because it gives you the most value for your money? how bout some variety here. seems like every entry level rider in this forum is pushed to a kilo tt. i wouldn't mind paying for a brand.

http://gloomies.com/comics/2006-07-04-you_you_missed_the_point.jpg

^welcome to BFSSFG

For the most part a lot of these frames are only a few mm's to 1/10's of a mm difference on their dimensions, best to just download a pdf, or cut and past and the compare with a spreadsheet on what the manufacturer provides as geometry specs.

http://www.fujibikes.com/bike/details/classic_track_life
click on the geometry tab

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/thehour.htm
click on geometry size chart

http://windsorbicycles.com/track.htm

do some conversions if necessary, maybe even to get a more familiar frame of reference:

http://www.convertunits.com/from/mm/to/inches

For example, wheelbase of the Fuji 54 cm is 968.9 vs the Hours @ 971 mm, 2.1 mm is roughly .08 inches, which is roughly 2/3 of an 1/8". The chainstays are 408 vs 405 mm, again not even 1/8". Standover is 31" vs 30.5", that's 1/2" difference there. So there are subtle differences, let's hope the measuring points were accurate and done at the same locations for the standover measurement ?

do you guys all drive a toyota or honda just because it gives you the most value for your money?
I do not own a car, but yes, I would probably buy a Toyota.


how bout some variety here. seems like every entry level rider in this forum is pushed to a kilo tt.I do not.


i wouldn't mind paying for a brand. :lol:


It's fine if you like your bike more, but don't be surprised if people aren't impressed by your justifications.

I'd buy a Toyota because it's the sweet fixie of the car world.

Ain't no red light gonna stop it.

I do not own a car, but yes, I would probably buy a Toyota.


Don't be a fool. Branding on cars is a meaningless as it is on bikes. When you pay for a Honda or Toyota, you are paying extra for reputation (or "heritage"). You are better off buying a cheaper "dark horse" car, such as a Hyundai Elantra. Its basically just as good as a Toyota but cheaper due to its lesser reputation. You could say that Hyundai is like the BD of cars, but not really, because, unlike BD, Hyundai didn't buy someone else's heritage. Hyundai is more like the IRO of cars.

Agreed. It once used to mean something but today its really more of a label you're paying for because there are few real bike manufaturing companies left. They are for the most part really distribution companies these days despite their name.

Don't be a fool. Branding on cars is a meaningless as it is on bikes. When you pay for a Honda or Toyota, you are paying extra for reputation (or "heritage"). You are better off buying a cheaper "dark horse" car, such as a Hyundai Elantra. Its basically just as good as a Toyota but cheaper due to its lesser reputation. You could say that Hyundai is like the BD of cars, but not really, because, unlike BD, Hyundai didn't buy someone else's heritage. Hyundai is more like the IRO of cars.


idk about that...for the most part, with cars, I feel like you get what you paid for. in the sense that if you pay more for a new car, youll be driving around a nicer car than a cheaper one.

I mean, when you buy an Audi vs. a Honda. You're not paying 10k more just for Audi's heritage. It is cause Audi's would outperform a honda in almost all aspects except for maybe reliability haha.

the more you guys talk about this the stupider you sound. audi's are ****.

the reason i used acura vs honda is because an acura IS a honda. and the csx is built off a civic. in fact, it's basically a jdm civic.

comparing toyota to hyundai to audi is mindless, because they're not made in the same factory.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/scrodzilla/guru2.png

Hyundai = Korean built Mitsubishi, so you're not really buying a dark horse car. The original Hyundai Excel used the same powerplant and drivetrain as a Mitsubishi Mirage, which was also the same as a Plymouth/Dodge Colt. I replaced a 1985 Dodge Colt 1.5 L engine with a 1.5 L engine from a Hyundai Excel back in the day and used the Hyundai's frame mounts even, it mated to the Colt's 5 speed transmission with no issues or modifications. Drove that car another 200K miles.

Don't be a fool. [otherwise reasonably worded argument]

Oh, the internet. You silly. :rolleyes: