Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Coaster Brake Sturmey Archer S2C Kickback Bike
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11-15-10, 01:15 AM
I bought a no name 52cm cro mo bike frame from Junky Rusty Bikes.
And I bought a 2 speed SA S2C kickback black Weinmann wheelset from them.
They did have the Torker KB2 listed but it wasn't available to be shipped so its the next
Can't wait to see how an urban kickback bike rides like. I think it will be fun and the
minimalistic approach seemed like the way to go on it! ;):)
I hope you post a review once you've had it up and running for a while. Are you going to keep the fat tires? I have a coaster wheelset built with a Joytech cheapie hub and those same Weinmanns. I find it really hard to get a tire bigger than 28's seated well on that rim. Good luck!
11-15-10, 01:32 AM
So cheesy advertising!
Hopefully their website domain name is not related. :roflmao2:
11-15-10, 01:36 AM
According to the specs, the tires are Kwenda West 32c. I think it could fit up to a 40c. The Weinmanns are decent wheels, nothing special.
The bike like steel bikes these days, I suspect is made in China. I won't be surprised if a no name frame can be light. And the combo package was hard to beat for the price.
And the 52cm is the same size as my fixed gear Schwinn Madison, so its a perfect fit for me.
11-15-10, 01:39 AM
With Paypal, I'm covered on the purchase.
The bike will be sent to my LBS. That project will have to wait until my Madison gets upgraded with a new Sturmey Archer S3X fixed gear hub next week.
You should be fine with junkyrustybikes. Despite the name and relentless craigslist posting they're nice enough guys. I've been to their (tiny tiny) brick and mortar shop in Long Beach. They even gave me a free t-shirt!
Not too sure I'd buy a complete from them, but at that price you can't go too wrong.
11-15-10, 03:24 AM
Sheff, I used to live in Long Beach! And I know that part of the city well.
Looks like they did right by you even when you didn't buy anything from them. That speaks well of them indeed!
I'm interested in hearing how the kickback hub does in the real world too. The Torker KB2 is on my wish list to use as a beater, but I want somebody else to ride the hub for a few months and let me know it works first.
11-15-10, 10:10 AM
The shop had the KB2 available as I mentioned for special order but Torker's policy is not to allow bikes to be shipped over the Internet.
I hate bike companies that take choice out of the hands of the consumer and they're not protecting the dealer when they prohibit him from making a sale to someone out of the dealer's territory.
they're not protecting the dealer when they prohibit him from making a sale to someone out of the dealer's territory.
this is EXACTLY what they're doing and how they're doing it. they protect dealers by making sure you can trust the dealer to offer the torker product along with quality service. if they let just anyone sell the torker bikes and some ******* flooded ebay with pricing that undercut every other dealer (and let's just assume they do this by not setting up the bike properly and not offering competent servicing of the bike), where do you think the good LBS dealer's business will go?
making sure junky rusty ****heads don't sell ****ty factory one offs of torker bikes is the exact way in which torker can and does protect their dealers. but then jrf's pop up anyway, and they sell these 'combo deals' where they can't be held liable for ****ty assembly... and the average consumer can't ensure quality assembly without taking it into the shop where they should have just bought the torker graduate complete in the first place.
seriously, by the time you've bought all the parts to make that bike as it stands in that first SEIZURE.GIFadPICbroGASM , you've already exceeded the cost of a finely assembled and mechanic adjusted torker.
11-15-10, 02:25 PM
i've been riding around for over a month on my bianchi san jose with a S2C. The performance has been flawless. The first week I kept the front brake on until I got used to using the coaster brake. When you're in the lower direct gear the bike is silent when you are in the higher gear you hear the standard tick-tick-tick sound.
11-15-10, 05:23 PM
The bike like steel bikes these days, I suspect is made in China. I won't be surprised if a no name frame can be light.
11-16-10, 12:16 PM
Its true. No one wants to make cro moly bikes any more.
11-16-10, 12:18 PM
You should keep the front brake.
As Sheldon Brown wrote, nothing wrong with a coaster brake but if there's a sudden failure, you're SOL.
Its advisable to keep a backup braking system for safety's sake.
11-16-10, 12:19 PM
Its a good shop.
I was notified Monday the wheels were shipped Post Office.
The bike was shipped today UPS.
11-16-10, 12:22 PM
I find it really hard to get a tire bigger than 28's seated well on that rim. Good luck!
I put 38c on mine.
Dunno what my problem is, maybe crappy levers...
I put 38c on mine.
11-18-10, 11:24 AM
Wide tires are good. I'll look at the bike and see what is the largest size it can take... should get it here tomorrow.
11-18-10, 05:27 PM
Actually... the bike arrived today. No headbadge - decent TIG welds. Stock tires are Kenda Kwest 32c.
When I get the Weinmann wheelset, I'll make changes: better grips, Specialized Nimbus Sport tires in white, VO-8 leather saddle and Origin 8 black seatpost to match the frame.
I'm looking forward to riding it once its been built-up!
11-18-10, 06:51 PM
I want those grips.
11-18-10, 06:52 PM
...and for god's sake that GIF is bad.
11-18-10, 07:34 PM
Yes it is.
11-18-10, 07:48 PM
Agreed... its a small shop - they do keep their word on orders to the SS/FG community and that flashing GIF is cheesy!
They need advertising that's understated and simple!
Its not asking too much for the sake of posting pictures so people can what you're building up!
11-18-10, 07:53 PM
front wheel looks small.
11-18-10, 07:57 PM
I saw the front wheel in person and its a standard 700C wheel. The pictures don't really show you what it can be like.
You have to see it to know if its good.
11-19-10, 05:44 PM
Weinmann wheels arrived today. They look super! The new S2C hub looks very small. Ridiculously tiny for an IGH. Still, not too bad to have it in a matching black wheelset.
those weinemann stickers actually look half decent. so much better than the 'storming the castle' stickers they used to have.
are your hubs silver or black? you said matching so i was wondering.
11-19-10, 07:21 PM
Hubs are silver. The wheelset color matches the bike frame.
12-05-10, 06:23 PM
I got the bike back this afternoon and its fun to ride, especially on the descent! Switching the gears with the coaster brake took some getting used to but I got the hang of it. Specialized Nimbus Sport white tires contrast the black frame beautifully. I had to ditch the stock stem for an angled quill stem to get a higher height but I'm happy now. In all other respects, its a singlespeed cruiser with a higher gear that works well in a tailwind or on a descent.
I highly recommend the S2C kickback hub to SS fans.
12-06-10, 03:05 PM
Check out my new S2C build:
I can has barspinz!
Posted here on Velospace (http://velospace.org/node/33718).
Loved the double top tube Earl since I saw it at the Trek trade show. Steel frame, affordable SS/FG bike... with some less than stellar parts. The wheels especially, even though the rear does come stock with both freewheel and cog/lockring, are not the best. So the bike was begging for mods.
I wanted to check out both the 90mm front drum and the S2C S/A hubs and this was a perfect project. Through the headset brake routing makes for real clean lines and the possibility for barspins. Since I cannot do a barspin to save my life, this is more so that the bars don't ding the frame, ever. 35s on the bike and still clearance.
I don't really need an overdrive at 138% geared drive, so I set it up the other way, with 44/21 gearing working out to about 56" low/direct and 75" high/planetary gear. Way fun having just that one extra gear. Have to re-learn using a coaster brake. Front brake is outstanding, if a bit heavy...
This bike is no lightweight. In fact, it's kind of a tank. The S/A hubs are not exactly lightweight... 3x lacing, Chukker rims: Bomb. Proof.
Will make a great town bike.
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