Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Vintage De Rosa Pista

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kfm
11-15-10, 08:53 AM
Can anyone verify that this is actually a De Rosa frameset? The rear triangle was rebuilt at the time of a re-paint. Decal set is from the 70's, the frame is supposedly from the 80's. No serial #.

I have poked around a little and haven't been able to verify the authenticity of this frameset, outside of what is found on http://prollyisnotprobably.com/.

Thanks in advance!

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http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad235/11201ny/DeRosa/IMG_2944.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad235/11201ny/DeRosa/IMG_2946.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad235/11201ny/DeRosa/IMG_2947.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad235/11201ny/DeRosa/IMG_2948.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad235/11201ny/DeRosa/IMG_2949.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad235/11201ny/DeRosa/IMG_2951.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad235/11201ny/DeRosa/IMG_2952.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad235/11201ny/DeRosa/IMG_2953.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad235/11201ny/DeRosa/IMG_2954.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad235/11201ny/DeRosa/IMG_2956.jpg


kfm
11-15-10, 08:54 AM
http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad235/11201ny/DeRosa/Screenshot2010-11-09at71908PM.png

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad235/11201ny/DeRosa/Screenshot2010-11-09at71720PM.png

NormanF
11-15-10, 08:57 AM
That's most beautiful track bike I've ever seen.

I prefer an ugly SS/FG. No one wants to steal it!

That De Rosa is more like a painting or valuable jewelry.

Too bad its an instant bike thief magnet! :(


evangelinegale
11-15-10, 03:41 PM
nope, just a knock off piece of crap, i'll buy it off you for 6 dollars and half a 5th. you pay shipping.

JesusBananas
11-15-10, 07:09 PM
Oo, pretty. C&V forums are probably more helpful in the "identify my old bike department" . . .

Squirrelli
11-15-10, 07:24 PM
Could use a Campagnolo headset.

xkillemallx16
11-15-10, 07:41 PM
it has one.

Squirrelli
11-15-10, 07:52 PM
D'oh, totally forgot to read the CL ad...

trvth
11-17-10, 04:25 PM
That's a mighty purty bike pictured there. I've always had a soft spot for De Rosa.

wearyourtruth
11-17-10, 05:28 PM
Oo, pretty. C&V forums are probably more helpful in the "identify my old bike department" . . .

+1. they will know, but i'll say a serial number will go great lengths in determining authenticity.

it does have the triangle out of the BB behind the seattube, as de rosa's had, as well as the obvious marking on the seatstays. i would ASSUME it's real. the fork looks correct too

cc700
11-17-10, 05:39 PM
it's one HELL of a copy if it's not original.

Scrodzilla
11-17-10, 05:56 PM
Fake. It's obviously a Kilo.

Deshi
11-17-10, 06:20 PM
$1300 for and old "restored" frame and fork? No thanks.

JesusBananas
11-17-10, 06:57 PM
it's one HELL of a copy if it's not original.
Yes sir.


$1300 for and old "restored" frame and fork? No thanks.
+1 to this too, though. Very pretty, but I don't think any frame is worth that much to me. Unless maybe it's titanium. :D

cc700
11-18-10, 02:31 AM
I don't think any frame is worth that much to me.
here we are.

i can enjoy the HELL out of life on a 200 dollar frame. until i start pulling down big bucks, i'm not about to go thinking a 1300 frameset, no matter WHAT IT IS, would be worth the 1100 extra when i'm on the road. this bike is the kind of thing you hang from the ceiling with fishing line and let adorn your luxury condo as you take in the skyline with an italian fashion model and a glass of scotch that costs more than the frameset.

cc700
11-18-10, 02:49 AM
x2

kfm
11-18-10, 10:10 AM
De Rosa's usually sell for $$$. NOS = $$$$$. It's a beautiful frame regardless of personal implied value.

avner
11-18-10, 10:16 AM
Yes sir.


+1 to this too, though. Very pretty, but I don't think any frame is worth that much to me. Unless maybe it's titanium. :D

Frankly only a bike made of Scrodium would be worth that price tag.

LULWUT?

Scrodzilla
11-18-10, 10:24 AM
hahaha

kfm
11-18-10, 10:26 AM
Thanks, very helpful. Maybe I'll find one made out of Youradip**** while i'm at it.

In the meantime, I don't believe you will be finding too many titanium De Rosa's for $1300.

TejanoTrackie
11-18-10, 10:34 AM
Despite all the fancy cut outs, engraving, lining etc, this is a very ordinarily crafted frame that is no better than some modern lugged frames being manufactured in Taiwan and sold for less. If you really want something special, then you need to look at custom built frames that represent may hours of careful sanding, filing and thinning of the lugs and other markers of master craftmanship.

kfm
11-18-10, 10:48 AM
Is that so?
If i'm not mistaken, you are saying that a hand made vintage steel De Rosa is no better than, let's say a Taiwanese assembly line Bianchi pista? Also that if i am after real quality I should go custom? Let me get the logic behind this.

TejanoTrackie
11-18-10, 11:12 AM
Is that so?
If i'm not mistaken, you are saying that a hand made vintage steel De Rosa is no better than, let's say a Taiwanese assembly line Bianchi pista? Also that if i am after real quality I should go custom? Let me get the logic behind this.

Please carefully read what I said and look at the photos.

kfm
11-18-10, 11:20 AM
I guess I read it from the wrong angle.

jet sanchEz
11-18-10, 01:56 PM
Even though I've always had nice bikes, I used to think "a bike is a bike" and then a De Rosa fell into my lap and everything changed after one ride.

dbwoi
11-18-10, 02:43 PM
that bike is sex

cc700
11-18-10, 03:25 PM
yack yack assembly line Bianchi pista

let me get the logic behind when bianchi pistas were lugged and made in taiwan....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/emosubaru/overthis2.jpg

kfm
11-18-10, 05:18 PM
let me get the logic behind when bianchi pistas were lugged and made in taiwan....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/emosubaru/overthis2.jpg

5,258 post & climbing huh? Do you spend your days & nights on this site? Who said anything about lugged? ...And yes, they are manufactured in Taiwan. I used the Bianchi Pista as an example because of it's price & popularity. Anyway, as I already stated, I misread the post I was relying to.

JesusBananas
11-18-10, 05:25 PM
Thanks, very helpful. Maybe I'll find one made out of Youradip**** while i'm at it.

In the meantime, I don't believe you will be finding too many titanium De Rosa's for $1300.
Who are you talking to?

And I meant a general titanium (road) frame and was no longer referring to De Rosa at that point.

cc700
11-18-10, 05:31 PM
5,258 post & climbing huh? Do you spend your days & nights on this site?
yup, pretty much.


Who said anything about lugged? ... I misread the post I was relying to.
if you're still asking this, you're still misreading.

kfm
11-18-10, 05:37 PM
I don't think you have any idea of what you are talking about. You seem to be a bored dude looking for some drama on a bicycle forum. I'm glad you are proud of that. I just needed some info on a frame. Perhaps we can start another thread entitled Fight Club? I'm there.

Squirrelli
11-18-10, 05:40 PM
srsly?

You think he doesn't know what he is talking about?

HA

Scrodzilla
11-18-10, 05:43 PM
cc has been here since 2006 and is among the people here who actually do know what they're talking about.


Perhaps we can start another thread entitled Fight Club? I'm there.

If anyone seems like a bored dude looking for drama, it's kfm.

xkillemallx16
11-18-10, 05:55 PM
...Yeah. Good luck with that. This place sucks. I'm out of here... but please continue to masturbate amongst yourselves.

I will, thanks.

Squirrelli
11-18-10, 05:55 PM
Then why do you even come here to ask for advice? Other than showing off your NJS bikes, it seems like you have no contribution to the forums.

jet sanchEz
11-18-10, 05:57 PM
I love my De Rosa but would never pay $1300 for a frameset, that is kind of a lot of money. Unless you are racing it on the track or something...

cc700
11-18-10, 05:57 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/emosubaru/waitstop.jpg

TejanoTrackie
11-18-10, 06:01 PM
:roflmao2:

avner
11-18-10, 06:02 PM
Wow, it seems like once a week people drop into the forums, tell people they're ******** and then get banned. I love internet tough guys. Sorry kfc, can't say I'm sorry to see you go. Your contributions will be missed. :(













I really loved your chicken...

JesusBananas
11-18-10, 06:03 PM
I am confused, you've had an account for over a year? This is such a departure from all the angry dudes who have been on the forums for only a few weeks before calling everyone names.

:lol: cc and your sudden influx of gorilla pictures.

avner
11-18-10, 06:12 PM
I am confused, you've had an account for over a year? This is such a departure from all the angry dudes who have been on the forums for only a few weeks before calling everyone

monkey see monkey do

Scrodzilla
11-18-10, 06:14 PM
Bla bla bla. See ya!

cc - the gorilla pics are chock full o' win.

kfm
11-18-10, 06:47 PM
I am confused, you've had an account for over a year? This is such a departure from all the angry dudes who have been on the forums for only a few weeks before calling everyone names.

:lol: cc and your sudden influx of gorilla pictures.

Despite my current user, I've been on here since 2004, so I know what to expect.
You know what they say, 60% of the time it works, all the time.

xkillemallx16
11-18-10, 06:48 PM
I must say I do favor your taste in bikes, and the grips arent really jackass imo.

However that attitude's not going to yield any better responces, and the giant ball sack also happens to be a mod.

Scrodzilla
11-18-10, 07:16 PM
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/12/29/128750731480369606.jpg

TejanoTrackie
11-18-10, 07:17 PM
Oh, ma lordy. Ah thank ah hear da ole banhammer abut ta fall. Meh da lord haf mercy on ya.

Mr.Dan
01-23-11, 03:05 PM
Sooo... did anyone actually have any helpful information for kfm? Pretty ridiculous thread of nastiness. Mods should close threads like this.

BmoreDrew
01-23-11, 03:24 PM
cc has been here since 2006 and is among the people here who actually do know what they're talking about.

If anyone seems like a bored dude looking for drama, it's kfm.
Yeah, I mean.. I regularly see him dropping knowledge bombs. Never a "+1" type of post.

I think dude was genuinely looking for some information about the frame, though pointed to C&V for some reason didn't take that advice. What something is worth is a personal decision, and annoys the **** out of me when people chime in about their 200.00 frames and how glorious it is. Maybe a frame is worth 200.00, but I love it and want it so bad, that I pay 800.00 for it? Did that affect YOUR wallet, YOUR income in any way?

It's worth whatever you are wiling to pay for it. Simple as that.

BmoreDrew
01-23-11, 03:26 PM
Rant wasn't meant for you, Scrod. I just happened to quote you about CC.

I think my original point was: was it really warranted that he got banned because a bunch of hipsters came in here and were like OMGZ IS THAT EXPENSIVE, SO STUPID LOLZ. I would have gotten a bit frustrated by those replies too, difference was I usually just don't reply, he wanted to keep replying.






LOLZ+1.

Squirrelli
01-23-11, 05:27 PM
He got banned because of something else...

On BikeForums, everyone express their opinions in their own little way, whether through lolcats, sarcasm, gorilla pictures or whatever, bottom line, they're just our opinions. It is up to the OP to take the opinions personally, or just let it go by. People take **** too seriously in here.