Southeast - ROBBERY ATTEMPT: Naples,Fl on my morning training ride to the tennis courts..

Location: 1/8 mile east of Santa Barbara Blvd on Green Blvd//5:30am. Two guys around 30ish/one white-one hispanic tried to rob me. They ran out from behind a tree and did there best to rip me off the bike//fully loaded touring bike for training. I hit the white guy in the head as I was going by and they ran off...More details later..Glenn C Coryea

More details: The reason I posted this : A. To let locals know B. To let others know my mindset right before the incident to help prepare you just in case your ever confronted with a similar situation.

Morning of 11/24/10: I was riding west on Green Blvd at at around 12mph kind of in a trance. I'm thinking my only mission is to watch out for cars. I first noticed the two guys standing on the left side of Green about 75' in front of me. I then saw them run another 20 or so feet and hide behind a tree//I have
8000 lumen worth of head lighting//It was like happening in slow motion in my mind never really putting 2&2 together that this was going to be a robbery.
Anyways, as I came even with them they ran out, one guy went right for me and the other tried to latch onto my backpack. I hit one guy in the head and knocked him down and i guess that scared them off//I'm sure the did not bargain on trying to tackle a fully loaded bike.
They ran and hid behind one of the apartment bldgs/Waverly Place. I called the police and 3 cars showed up with in 5 minutes. That's about it...
Police report//case#10-30717.

I have 2 pepper sprays, 1 bear spray, medium sized aluminum bat that were all positioned too low on the bike to get to in a hurry. I since moved them to a more handy spot.

Holy cow, glad you got away unscathed and landed a blow too, nice work!

glad you kept your rig brother, I hate thieves.

Yikes.

Hey Glenn,

Are you carrying your arsenal to the meetup?....Interested in how you have it all mounted. Up to this point I never carry anything but maybe need to re-think, especially when loaded for touring. See you next Sunday......
M

Wow, thats sad

Hey Mike,

Yeah I'll have all the stuff. See ya Sunday.......Road W

Thanx for everyone's comments and concerns..Glenn

You carry a BAT? Nice to see you took care of business and did not get hurt in the ruckus.

Since the Jennifer Ewing tragedy on the Silver Comet Trail in North Georgia, I make it a point of never going riding without my Ruger LCP .380 pistol in my pocket. You never know when you will meet up with someone with malicious intent. It's 9.6 oz, so it's very easy to carry.

The bat is a fish billy from Bass Pro...

My Dad carries the same gun in a top bar triangle shaped bag..Easy access...

..Easy access...

Unless he's surprised and seprated from the bike. Then the bad guys have it.

Do you have a holster setup that you use for this? I am curious. I have been trying to think of a way to carry my LCP while riding, but don't like the idea of it riding around loose in a pocket.

I have it in a nylon holster and I just keep it in my center jersey pocket. I have also clipped it to the inside of my shorts, on the right side, as I'm a leftie, and it's a lot easier to cross-draw.

Once again..Thanx for the comments. It certainly has been a learning experience for me. Has anybody else been through a similar experience??

I have it in a nylon holster and I just keep it in my center jersey pocket. I have also clipped it to the inside of my shorts, on the right side, as I'm a leftie, and it's a lot easier to cross-draw.

I carry a Glock G39, which is a quite a bit bigger than an LCP. I either carry it in a Tommy's Gun Pack (http://www.tommysgunpack.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1), or a SmartCarry (http://www.smartcarry.com/). Wish I'd gotten the SmartCarry Security Model; that rear pouch would be a handy place to carry ID, CCW Permit, and a Credit Card.

Note: The SmartCarry might not be the best choice if all you wear is cycling shorts and a jersey. It's meant to be worn with a layer of clothing between it and your skin (typically underwear), with another layer of clothing (shorts or pants) concealing it. But it works great if you wear lycra shorts underneath a pair of knickers or MTB shorts.

Note that I haven't tried the SmartCarry on rides more than 20 miles, or the TGP for more than 30, and that I ride mostly upright. Might not work for you if you ride on aero bars or in the drops.

Posted on CGOAB 12/4

I make it a point of never going riding without my Ruger LCP .380 pistol in my pocket.

I don't live in the southeast and apologize if I'm butting in but I saw the link to this thread posted over at CGOAB, saw the comments, and felt the need to put in my 2 cents worth. I understand that states are very different with respect to gun laws and public attitudes towards firearms and I'm fine with that, but when I first saw the quote cited above, I thought it was a joke. Then I read on and realized that, based on the subsequent comments, it seems to be a perfectly acceptable practice in this region of the country for cyclists to carry loaded firearms. I'm not making a judgment saying it's a good thing or a bad thing, but what it shows me is how very, very different the attitudes can be in different parts of the country. Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but I've never heard of any cyclists in my area (Northern California) who carry loaded guns when riding.

I don't live in the southeast and apologize if I'm butting in but I saw the link to this thread posted over at CGOAB, saw the comments, and felt the need to put in my 2 cents worth. I understand that states are very different with respect to gun laws and public attitudes towards firearms and I'm fine with that, but when I first saw the quote cited above, I thought it was a joke. Then I read on and realized that, based on the subsequent comments, it seems to be a perfectly acceptable practice in this region of the country for cyclists to carry loaded firearms. I'm not making a judgment saying it's a good thing or a bad thing, but what it shows me is how very, very different the attitudes can be in different parts of the country. Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but I've never heard of any cyclists in my area (Northern California) who carry loaded guns when riding.


No problem about butting in, its still a free internet, for now at least. Since that Jennifer Ewing incident, most of the people that use the trail, especially in the more isolated sections carry some form of protection.

Here's a link to the story. As an ending to the trial, Ledford was found guilty and sentenced to death.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19494092/detail.html


Also, what is the GCOAB?

CGOAB = www.crazyguyonabike.com Great website for bicycle touring journals and info

"Since that Jennifer Ewing incident, most of the people that use the trail, especially in the more isolated sections carry some form of protection."

I would like to know where pointyhead gets this statistic. Has there been a survey, a poll? I don't think so. Since most "forms of protection" are carried concealed it would be hard to judge without a survey.

My first question when I read the comments of people packing heat was, "Don't you need a license to carry a concealed weapon?"

My first question when I read the comments of people packing heat was, "Don't you need a license to carry a concealed weapon?"

In most states you do. What I find screwy is the fact that anyone would admit to carrying a firearm on the internet.. It's so easy to use that information in court even if they are getting framed for a crime they didn't commit... it's easy for someone to say: " but so-and-so admitted to carrying this exact model firearm on the internet, here is the proof" = GUILTY AS CHARGED.

dumb-a$-$es.

My first question when I read the comments of people packing heat was, "Don't you need a license to carry a concealed weapon?"

As fordsasterr said, in most states, yes.


In most states you do. What I find screwy is the fact that anyone would admit to carrying a firearm on the internet.. It's so easy to use that information in court even if they are getting framed for a crime they didn't commit... it's easy for someone to say: " but so-and-so admitted to carrying this exact model firearm on the internet, here is the proof" = GUILTY AS CHARGED.

dumb-a$-$es.

:rolleyes:

My first question when I read the comments of people packing heat was, "Don't you need a license to carry a concealed weapon?"

I have one. Crime is higher in the Southeast. The FBI can back up that statement.

Thanx everybody. Stay safe...Glenn in Naples Florida

" . . . What I find screwy is the fact that anyone would admit to carrying a firearm on the internet.. "

Hey fordfaster:

I don't mind sharing the fact that I am legally carrying a concealed weapon on the forums, or in person to select individuals. Here in Florida, unlike a number of states that have been mentioned in this thread, concealed carry is perfectly legal. Why in the world would anyone who has a CCW license be concerned. To me, this is no different then sharing the fact that I also legally drive a car.

When lived in Oviedo FL (just to the north-east of Orlando, I have chatted and compared weapons with two local bicycle mounted police officers, One was very enthusiastic about the possibilities offered by my Glock model 30. (It's a .45cal compact). There was a comment in one of the posts regarding the absence of concealed carry on a California trail. Well, good luck getting a concealed carry permit in the Kalifornia gulags.

Yes, most of us here in the south-east have a very casual attitude toward firearms. By the way, when I am riding some of the trails out in our jungle, I usually carry a .357 magnum revolver. Why? Black bears (Florida has the largest black bear variation in the entire country) and razorback wild hogs. The hogs are always in packs, they are very dangerous and they are always pissed.

Ditto on the Hogs Daddo. I had one almost take out my leg as/I Guess/it was crossing the road. It came crashing out of the woods out in Devils Garden//east of Immokalee,Fl..

Glad OP made it through ok. Just another thought if you can't reach the stuff designed for defensive purposes. If you've got your lock handy, it might be time for kryptonite justice to the side of the head. Though I suppose that could be considered deadly force.

Ditto on the Hogs Daddo. I had one almost take out my leg as/I Guess/it was crossing the road. It came crashing out of the woods out in Devils Garden//east of Immokalee,Fl..

Yeah, those things don't need much, if any, provocation to attack. Most of our critters down here will usually take off in the other direction when they sense or hear a human. That applies to our Florida Panthers as well (by other names around the country: mountain lion, Puma, etc). But those damn razorbacks just don't care. I would not doubt that it heard you coming and made the decision to attack. Glad it did not get you. Their tusks are razor sharp.

In most states you do. What I find screwy is the fact that anyone would admit to carrying a firearm on the internet..

For the record, I never carry a firearm on the internet. That would be particularly hazardous over on P&R and (*gasp*) Trollheim.

Glad OP made it through ok. Just another thought if you can't reach the stuff designed for defensive purposes. If you've got your lock handy, it might be time for kryptonite justice to the side of the head. Though I suppose that could be considered deadly force.

So... you're going to grab your u-lock from wherever it is secured on your bike ... strapped to a rack, or in a frame mount it came with (I hate those), or in a backpack or pannier - all things designed to hold the lock securely, with no regard on how quickly one must get the lock. And you think that's somehow faster or easier than drawing a handgun from a holster that benefits from 150 years of holster design that maximizes both retention and rapid draw.

Riiiigght.

No U-lock here. Very interesting observations.....THANX,Glenn

Glad OP made it through ok. Just another thought if you can't reach the stuff designed for defensive purposes. If you've got your lock handy, it might be time for kryptonite justice to the side of the head. Though I suppose that could be considered deadly force.

"ARMED BICYCLE RIDER DEFENDS SELF AGAINST MULTIPLE ATTACKERS" (http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2009/05/10/armed-bicycle-rider-defends-self-against-multiple-attackers/)

" , , The man grabbed his openly carried U-Lock from his holster, pointed it at the sky, and yelled “LOCK!” The attackers then fled, leaving the man with only minor injuries from being knocked off his bike.

No Wait, The man grabbed his openly carried pistol from his holster, pointed it at the sky, and yelled “GUN!” The attackers then fled, leaving the man with only minor injuries from being knocked off his bike.

Got hit by car New Years eve/day @ 10:30 am on the way home for the the tennis courts. Details available asap/I'm okay. 2nd car altercation this year/// plus the attack. Gees

I'm beginning to think you should avoid the tennis courts, it's a surprisingly dangerous sport.



...kidding, glad you're ok!

Thanx C I M..

Deja vu

you got attacked again?

No...The new robbery thread just brought back memories..

Glad you're OK. I only ride paved trails, but will be adding an air horn to the papper spray in my cargo shorts pocket.

North American Arms 22 Mag Pug in the cell phone pocket and my carry permit in my wallet!

I'm heading out for my morning ride. It's 5:21am..Stay safe fxrguy