Framebuilders - Horse Cycles - Brooklyn NY
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So I was at my local Bodega and spotted a nice looking geared bike (http://www.horsecycles.com/images/tour1_7.jpg) but wasn't familiar with the brand. Started chatting with the bike's owner, turns out he builds bikes here (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=IIQ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=80+North+3rd+st.+11211&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=80+N+3rd+St,+Brooklyn,+NY+11211&gl=us&ei=KNIQTfSWI8T58Abb3YyMDg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ8gEwAA) in Brooklyn. I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge or comments about Horse Cycles (http://www.horsecycles.com/).
My main issue is pricing on custom frames. I have always wanted a custom built bike but seeing how I can get a Yamaguchi (http://www.yamaguchibike.com/images/aero-track.jpg) frame for a little bit more, would this particular frame be worth the asking price?
12-21-10, 10:48 AM
The pricing is at the low end for a custom frame. There are too many established builders that are undercharging for their frames. Kinda wish they would cut it out. Competing on price is not a stable business plan. At $1200 for a frame, the guy is paying himself a subsistence wage at best.
Having said that, I think the best way to become more comfortable with a builder is to make contact with him. I don't know what you can learn on an internet forum that is very useful in that regard. A custom frame is a big investment and requires patience on the part of the consumer. If you aren't comfortable with the builder up front, things are just going to go downhill from there.
12-21-10, 03:13 PM
completely agree with unterhausen. Talk to the builder. If you jive take the next step.
yes i agree and i was talking to the owner. I was just curious if anyone on the forum from the area had any knowledge about this particular builder or company. Just because I might jive with a particular builder doesn't make his build good or worth the expense.
12-22-10, 12:27 PM
there are a lot of small builders that don't have a lot of exposure and that you aren't going to get a lot of feedback about. I don't think that should be a deal killer. Of course, that opinion could be seen as self-serving since the same could be said of me.
I can just relate my experience as far as offering an opinion. I am very reluctant to endorse other builders that I don't know extremely well. At this point, that's limited to one person plus a batch of big name builders that seem like a safe bet. I just don't see how my impressions would be useful to anyone, and I've never had dealings with any builders as a customer either.
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