Classic & Vintage - Help I.D.ing a saddle

no luck on the internet. only inscriptions are "Record" with "M.D." underneath. thanks.

It's a Record M.D. :thumb:

Do you have a picture of the underside and frame? Reminds me of the Ideales (3 holes in top) that I own, but it possibly was re-riveted with Brooks large copper rivets?

A one-off for a Campagnolo Record equipped show bike?

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=184256&d=1293851022

I've had a couple of these over the years and never had luck with an ID either. I think they're boom era Italian seats.

M.D. = Marque Deposé (Registered Trademark in French)?

184309Here's the underside. alloyed steel with no real signs of rust.

If you are going to use it, the poor soul needs a kind drink of leather treatment. You can use Brooks Porfide or some swear to Pecards Antique leather treatment.

Whatever you treat it with, take it slow and do not put to much on at anyone time. I would be tempted to start with Pecards as it comes highly rated for old leather on the military forums. But you do not want to make the leather, it needs lubrication in the fibers.

Even so, the leather might be to far gone and crack tear through the rivets anyway.


Tom

Record was an Italian saddle brand. They were standard equipment on a lot of Italian bikes in the 60's and 70's but mostly mid-line or lower models. The pro bikes usually had Brooks or modified Brooks.

I would expect that saddle to bring at least $100 on Ebay. The big rivet version seems very rare to me.

Might thus be best for display, given the age, value and questionable leather quality.