Classic & Vintage - Silver Peugeot PX 10

Hi,
I have just been offered a silver Peugeot PX 10 and from the one photo it looks in amazing condition. It looks like a 1970s one and i was wondering how common silver ones are? Is the price reflected on different colour px 10s or are they all roughly the same value no matter which colour?
Thanks

I am not sure about colours, but it seems PX10's are more common in the USA than here in France. I have been looking for one for such a long time now!

Sorry i was mistaken because the guy that normally offers me bikes told me about one but it isn't actually his. He saw it on leboncoin.
Anyway if you are interested in getting one prettyshady then here is the advert http://www.leboncoin.fr/sports_hobbies/164388164.htm?ca=12_s
If you agree a price then maybe he can post it to you?

leboncoin! I've have kept away from that site for a few weeks now, I dont have the time or the funds to snap up all the bargins.

The price of that bike is above my budget cap, but a good buy if your looking for a french 56cm

I've never seen one in silver, though I understand they could be had in any color.
It us a very good price for the US ($388), especially given the uncommon color.

Auchencrow i think dhl can ship them for about 120 -140 euros but obviously if anyone on here was interested they would have to persuade the seller to send it!

Silver is a very typical late 70's PX10 PY10 color. Probably more common than white.

If this is a '76, isn't it more likely to be a PY-10?

-Kurt

If this is a '76, isn't it more likely to be a PY-10?

-Kurt

Green Reynolds decals so no, it wouldnt be.

Green Reynolds decals so no, it wouldnt be.

Interesting. All PY's therefore - short of the team issues - had 531P decals, correct?

This would be a PX then: http://cgi.ebay.com/FRAMESET-PEUGEOT-PY-10-/220721236787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336402cb33

-Kurt

And this gold one isn't one even though it has chrome stays http://www.leboncoin.fr/sports_hobbies/147909512.htm?ca=12_s
I saw this gold one before for sale for 90 euros and done some research but can't remember which model it is , but it isn't a px 10.

I think that silver Peugeots became more popular after Bernard Thevenet's 1975 Tour de France win on a silver Peugeot.

And this gold one isn't one even though it has chrome stays http://www.leboncoin.fr/sports_hobbies/147909512.htm?ca=12_s
I saw this gold one before for sale for 90 euros and done some research but can't remember which model it is , but it isn't a px 10.

What makes you think it's not a PX10?

Well i saw it for sale and nearly bought it for 90 euros but i didn't feel like getting the train to get it and so let it pass. I remember at the time i checked online catalogues and there is a peugeot model identical to this one with chrome half forks and stays and plus full reynolds tubes. Also it came with these mudguards as standard. I think it is the same bike that someone bought and is trying to sell on for profit. I'll try and find the model number again and let you know.

Wow i found that quick! Peugeot PX 60 gentlemen luxe http://www.peugeotshow.com/images/1974px60.jpg
I could be wrong though but they look the same.

And this gold one isn't one even though it has chrome stays http://www.leboncoin.fr/sports_hobbies/147909512.htm?ca=12_s
I saw this gold one before for sale for 90 euros and done some research but can't remember which model it is , but it isn't a px 10.

That would be the PX60 Gentleman, Peugeot's top randonneur model.

T-Mar you know your peugeots!
I wonder how many have been passed on as a PX 10 over the years?

That's a nice one, in my size, and at a good price. But I'm not ready to buy, and I can't pay the shipping, so I'm safe. :-\

T-Mar you know your peugeots!
I wonder how many have been passed on as a PX 10 over the years?



I find it hard to believe that anybody could confuse a PX60 for a PX10. The brazed-on generator tab is a huge clue that it's not a PX10. Then again, lots of people confure UE8s for UO8s. Regardless, the respective models are not that far removed from each other if you strip off the accessories. In fact, for most people the PX60 is probably a more practical bicycle, though it doesn't have the esteem of a PX10 among the general population, particulalry in North America were it is not well known.

I can't make out a generator tab on the gold one. Maybe it's the government-issue monitor I'm using. To me, a PX60 is much more desireable than a common PX10. I've only seen pictures of 2 or three and none were in the US.

Then again, lots of people confure UE8s for UO8s.

Around here, CL sellers "confuse" a UO8 with a PX10. :lol:

I am not sure about colours, but it seems PX10's are more common in the USA than here in France. I have been looking for one for such a long time now!

I think it is because you are looking for a px-10 in the description while most of the Px-10 I have seen on leboncoin were sold as ''vélo de course'' or ''demie-course'' for 20-30 euros

I can't make out a generator tab on the gold one. Maybe it's the government-issue monitor I'm using. To me, a PX60 is much more desireable than a common PX10. I've only seen pictures of 2 or three and none were in the US.

The generator tab is visible just in front of the seat stays and slightly below the level of the brake pads. Also, if you look at the picture of the head tube area you will notice that there is a light mounted to the left fork blade. While the light mounting tab isn't visible in any of the pictures, neither are are any clips, ties or tape for the wiring harness, indicating that it utilizes the brazed-on, fold over tabs typical of the randonneur models.

Like you, I would also find a PX60 more desirable, due to their rarity here in North America. However, for the typical North American, the PX10 would be the one be have. BTW, I occassionally come across Canadian PF40 Gentlemen, which are mid-1980s, mid-range ranndonneurs built around a Vitus 172 tubeset.

I own a PF-40, in fact I used it to complete Paris-Brest-Paris in 1999. I haven't seen another one, and have never seen images of it in any catalogue. I am intrigued to here T-Mar's reference to one! Mine was imported by Bicycle Sport in Toronto around 1980. Any more information you can shed on it would be great.

Interesting. All PY's therefore - short of the team issues - had 531P decals, correct?

This would be a PX then: http://cgi.ebay.com/FRAMESET-PEUGEOT-PY-10-/220721236787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336402cb33

-Kurt

I did some research and it seems as if it is a PY10. French markey PX and PY bike were spec'd differently so the waters are somewhat muddy in regards to the late 70's bikes. As best I can tell European PY's did come with green letter Reynolds but there were a few minor frame features that differentiate a PY from PX. Look for water bottle bosses and over the BB cables guides on PY models.

I own a PF-40, in fact I used it to complete Paris-Brest-Paris in 1999. I haven't seen another one, and have never seen images of it in any catalogue.

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr314/jimr2527/1980PeugeotCanadianPF40001.jpg

miamijim, what year is that catalog from? Looks like about 1979 or 1980.

It looks like a UO-9 or UO-10 with fenders and front rack added. Is the frame the same as the UO-8 frame?

miamijim, what year is that catalog from? Looks like about 1979 or 1980.

It looks like a UO-9 or UO-10 with fenders and front rack added. Is the frame the same as the UO-8 frame?

I don't see any similarity.

... here is the advert http://www.leboncoin.fr/sports_hobbies/164388164.htm?ca=12_s
...

blurred picture, so no real details visible but to me this is a late 1977 or early 1978 PY10 EC.

SPIDEL (see advert): "Years of Operation: 1978 - 1980" (see VeloBase)
What's more, in 1976 Stronglight 105-crank was not available yet for PX/PY10 (not visible in the photo - at least on my computer screen - if is the drilled version 105 "bis". But quite sure it is). French 1976 catalog lists Stronglight 93 crank.

1978 catalog: PY without chromed fork and rear.

PY: low flange hubs (Maillard 700 presumeably / PX10: high flange)

Reynolds sticker red: 5/10 gauge -> PY10 CP ("prestige peugeot")
green: 7/10 gauge -> PY10 EC

Silver is common in my opinion, too.

That would be the PX60 Gentleman, Peugeot's top randonneur model.

nearly - PY60 was top randonneur.

late 70s/early 80s PX10 and PX60..I believe, both European versions.

188220188219188218Oops, hit the wrong button, first pic of a PX P60 I hope? 2nd pic disregard unless you want to see an old Koga Gents Racer that I entered by accident from a small thumbnail and lastly a silver PX10.

Hi,

sorry for disturbing or interrupting. I think, this is my first post, because I live in Germany and came here in search for information about the PY-60.
Here is my opinion to these three (two) pictures:
The first Peugeot is a PR-60. Only the three main tubes are made of reynold's 531. First proof is the fork crown. It isn't made of reynold's. Second proof is the diameter of the seat stays. In a (peugeot-)frame fully made of 531 they are 16mm. These have only 14mm.
So the PR-60 comes out number three in the randonneurs - PY-60, PX-60, PR-60, PA-60 etc. ...

Second one is not a peugeot :)

The third one is a PX-10 - like you said.

Cheers

I have just bought what i think is a PR60 because the sticker is just three tubes reynolds but my rear stays are 16mm?!?
And welcome to the bikeforum.

I have just bought what i think is a PR60 because the sticker is just three tubes reynolds but my rear stays are 16mm?!?
And welcome to the bikeforum.

I'm not sure what you bought......if it had no Reynolds decal I'd almost say it was a PX10. Does it have an integral generator tab or does the generator bolt on? Keep in mind that we tend to ID bikes as per U.S. spec on this forum. Peugeot made many. many different models and they different models for each market therfore it may be impossible to possitively ID your bike.