Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Orgin 8 crank arms, Replica of omnomnomnom's

http://www.amazon.com/Origin8-Track-Cranks-BLACK-Crankset/dp/B002UMK1IW

Saw this at the LBS, it has a octa link bb.

Its just like the omnomonoms.

The qc is crap though...

Cool thread, bro.

They're Andels.

Really? TT says they are good right?
Im pretty intrested in them. Considering that the owner of the lbs says i can have them for cheap..

http://www.shinybinary.com/images/art/sweet.jpg

Considering that the owner of the lbs says i can have them for cheap..

of course he did.

:popcorn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu23mJFZX_0&playnext=1&list=PL05E6A4F1199E493A&index=2

That's not an octalink bb. It's a hollowtec/x-type/mega-exo style where the spindle is attatched to the drive side crankarm.

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/7/21/128926846934928466.jpg

Scrod, you seem to only communicate by way of visuals these days. Not complaining, as they are usually hilarious, and appropriate, to boot.

These days? ****...that's been my steez all along.

evilliealotmore's threads usually aren't worth many words.

But Omniums have street cred, bro.

Also, Andels are ugly.

Also, Andels are ugly.

wtf!!!!!!

It's nothing new, always been here; however, besides the Omnomnnms, this set is the only other track crankset that uses external bottom bracket. SRM or Quarq do have 144BCD and externall bb, but it would cost you your kidneys and a liver.

Whether external bb is worth the upgrade is totally up to you.

wtf!!!!!!

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/20/tard.gif

besides the Omnomnnms, this set is the only other track crankset that uses external bottom bracket.

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=188_193_660&products_id=8187

http://knowyourmeme.com/system/icons/15/original/orly.jpg?1229112642


(http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=188_193_660&products_id=8187)

I think he meant Andels are the only other viable external BB option. Or I could be wrong.

Just get omniums guys from bike island.... I'm pretty sure sram knows what's good for you making the slight price difference if there is any when you consider bike island doesn't charge you tax and shipping; well except for the torpedo hub anyway but I'm pretty sure whoever designed it and their website no longer works for them....

Yah bro, like SRAM Omnomnoms are like the new Sugino 75, like ya gotta have the name cache, like Andels got no street cred bro.

http://www.millionface.com/l/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/weird_fun/donkey-smile.jpg

Yah bro, like SRAM Omnomnoms are like the new Sugino 75, like ya gotta have the name cache, like Andels got no street cred bro.

They're nearly the same price, bro. Chainring spider fatness issues aside, I'd rather pay an extra $15 for something that I think looks significantly better.

Me too.

Actually, the Andels with and external BB + shipping from Ben's end up costing more than Omniums from Bike Island. Add in the factor that Andels come with an ugly 46t chainring and it's Omniums FTW.

1 - BB-68-110 - 110mm tange bottom bracket
1 - CB - Crank bolt kit
1 - CHAIN-NP - Chain 1/8\" nickel plate
1 - COG-16T - Track cog CNC 16T
1 - COG-18T - Track cog CNC 18T
1 - CR2-165-46-B - Track crank 165mm 46T black style 2

i got all of these for lesser then the sram Omniums shipped from alienbikes.com :)

Actually, the Andels with and external BB + shipping from Ben's end up costing more than Omniums from Bike Island. Add in the factor that Andels come with an ugly 46t chainring and it's Omniums FTW.

Incorrect. Shipping from Ben's is free on all orders > $100, and that particular crankset comes with a 48T chainring. As to the chainring, you can always change it out to a one you consider pretty, and you've got very few choices in chainring sizes with SRAM. Finally, the SRAM BB has a mixed reputation, so you might end up having to change it, whereas the Andel is good stuff throughout.

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=188_193_660&products_id=8187

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/092009/1252577186_giraffe-fight.gif

Okay, so they're the exact same price.

If both the Andels and Omniums are 144bcd, why would one set have and endless array of chainring options and the other be limited to only a few?

ive definitely heard andels are good.
however havn't seen that specific crankset many places.

lets just say if i had to chose between the too, i would pay slightly more for omniums because ive heard many good reviews about them, whereas this other omnium-esque crankset from andel i havn't heard anything about....on top of that i personally think the omniums are better looking.

If both the Andels and Omniums are 144bcd, why would one set have and endless array of chainring options and the other be limited to only a few?

What I meant was that if you really liked the look of the SRAM chainrings for the Omnomnoms, then they have limited sizes. Also, while we're on the topic of SRAM oddities, there's also the problem with the chainring bolts. So, really, it just comes down to personal preference in appearance.

http://www.amazon.com/Origin8-Track-Cranks-BLACK-Crankset/dp/B002UMK1IW

Saw this at the LBS, it has a octa link bb.

Its just like the omnomonoms.

The qc is crap though...

i dont even.

i dont even.

You don't want to.

Why would I buy the Andel crankset for the same price as the Omniums if I was going to change out the horrendous looking chainring for a better looking one? That's an automatic $30+ addition to the price.

^ We're on the same page. $30 for a chainring is shooting low too.

firstly andels r way cheaper (if sourced right) so no point comparing them to the sram's .. they r like 60$ cheaper (i managed an entire drivetrain in that amount and saved $$)
secondly horrendous is not the word i would use for the chainring lol agreed it may not be the best lookin one out there but its def not the worst..

i will tell u why i went for andels

awesomely priced / i got a kick ass deal @ alien so no complaints
probably the lightest crank for the price /
all black (just like the sugino's) but better lookin (yes to me it is)

although ive not used one yet and went on by suggestions and a lil bit of my research .. im sure theyll be good enough for any1 starting out and wanting a good solid crank without the need to upgrade soon. so yes if u have a budget get the srams... hell go get some miche advanced.. but dissing andels just coz of its looks is such a subjective opinion .. its not even funny :rolleyes:

Are you 12 years old?

I priced out black Andels with a 110mm BB on alienbikes and the total (with shipping) was $113. Does this come with crank bolts? If not, that's another $10.

Compared to my Omniums that I got for $128 new, I'd rather go with Omniums any day.

You also realize that the crankset from Alien isn't anything like the Omniums, right? The ones from Alien use a standard square taper bottom bracket, whereas Andels the OP posted use an external bottom bracket.

no scrod' im not 12 since im not posting gif's on every second post.

Also - the fact that Andels only come in 165mm length is a turn off.

I priced out black Andels with a 110mm BB on alienbikes and the total (with shipping) was $113. Does this come with crank bolts? If not, that's another $10.

crankbolts r included with the bb just like ben's.

no scrod' im not 12 since im not posting gif's on every second post.

The way you spell and use the English language, I would think otherwise.

Also - the fact that Andels only come in 165mm length is a turn off.

Er, if you are talking about the ones with the external BB, IDK, but not true of the square taper ones I bought and toxicdrift is talking about http://cgi.ebay.com/LEADER-ANDEL-CRANKSET-170MM-BLACK-48T-BB-/380283463678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588aa927fe

Those are older models. Pretty sure all the newer-style ones (like at Ben's) are only 165.

Considering this thread was originally about Andels w/ an external BB and their comparison to Omniums, that's what I've been talking about.

Not trying to beat a dead horse, and I realize that product availability in different markets may not reflect the manufacturer's specifications, but according to Andel these cranks are available in many different arm lengths:

http://www.andel.com.tw/products/products_show.php?language=_eng&pid=11&cid=8

I don't see anywhere on that Andel page that says what lengths they come in...

I don't see anywhere on that Andel page that says what lengths they come in...

Sorry, wrong link, it's a catalogue pdf >>> http://www.andel.com.tw/Archive/_eng/download/ANDEL_2010%20e-catalogued.pdf

I think he meant Andels are the only other viable external BB option. Or I could be wrong.
Yea...that's what I meant.

Origin8 is pretty much the Andel...not sure which one is the rebrand of which though.

Omnomnoms would be awesome-r if they have more choices of chainring; instead of the 48.

Andel makes them. Origin 8, All-City, etc. rebrand them.

Also, while we're on the topic of SRAM oddities, there's also the problem with the chainring bolts.

I havn't heard this complaint. What's wrong with the chainring bolts? Aluminum?

The SRAM chainring is very thick, so the supplied chainring bolts are too long for use if you were to switch out the chainrings for a thinner/regular chainring.

I don't necessarily think I'd classify having to use new chainring bolts if you replace the chainring as a "problem".

I don't necessarily think I'd classify having to use new chainring bolts if you replace the chainring as a "problem".

It's more an issue when racing on the track, and you are constantly regearing with different chainrings, so you might use the stock 48T chainring in some situations and other brands in different sizes for other situations. So, whether you characterize it as a "problem" or a "hassle" or an "inconvenience", it's just another issue I'd rather not deal with. So, I'm going to stop commenting on this, and y'all are free to pray at the alter of SRAM and I'll just continue to follow my star.