Foo - 90% How sad.

What a bunch of loosers. :mad:

http://fieldnotes.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/14/5841767-90-pregnancies-at-one-high-school?GT1=43001

They're not losers, they clearly need more education from their parents and (since the parents appear to be lacking) the school.

They're not losers, they clearly need more education from their parents and (since the parents appear to be lacking) the school.

Come on! Get real! Chances that they were all just stupid uninformed little girls are slim to none, sure some of the parents are partly to blame but in the end they (the pregnat girls) opened their legs to unprotected sex and oughta feel extremely lucky that all they got was pregnant! My oldest and my brothers oldest were both borm within a year of each other, and they were the first born grandkids to my parents, they were both taught the same at home and his girl had a baby as soon as she hit 16! My girl is 26, married, and still hasn't had a child as she wants to give her child a better life. BTW, I feel its not the schools responsibility to teach children to have safe sex. I stand by my opinion, loo-hoo-ser-hers!

Er, well... it's 90 girls. And since the school is 900something, that's 18% according to the article you've linked. Not 90%.

"Loosers".... was that a Freudian slip?

Only 90 pregnancies. Phew, for awhile there, I thought there was a serious problem going on at that school. :rolleyes:

Sure it might be possible that some girls were unaware they could get pregnant... plausible. All 90 of them.... i don't know.

Er, well... it's 90 girls. And since the school is 900something, that's 18% according to the article you've linked. Not 90%.

"Loosers".... was that a Freudian slip?

Nah, just a double tap.

I stand by my opinion that you need to read the article more closely, choose your wording more carefully, have even an ounce of compassion, and most of all, relax a little bit.

You're right I should have read it more carefully, (not that it changes my opinion) right again, no compasion here, yes I do need a lot of work when it comes to relaxing, even a little bit, been working on it for like 30 years.....no luck so far. I'd also like to add that 60% (no minstake, 60%) of all people I meet annoy me in one way or another. Let me know what I can do about that. ;0)

Only 90 pregnancies. Phew, for awhile there, I thought there was a serious problem going on at that school. :rolleyes:

Bingo. Most people seem to think theres no problem. Hell, I was pissed when there was one pregnant girl in my daughters high school, makes it seem like its OK, even cool. **** that.

I'd also like to add that 60% (no minstake, 60%) of all people I meet annoy me in one way or another. Let me know what I can do about that. ;0)

I pretty much operate under the assumption that everyone around me is an idiot. That way I'm not disappointed if they are, and am pleasantly surprised if they're not. It has helped keep my stress and annoyance levels in check.

I'll give it a try. ;0) BTW, note my "minstake" in my "no mistake" reply! LOL!

They're not losers, they clearly need more education from their parents and (since the parents appear to be lacking) the school.
I'm totally with Cbad on this one.

My wife teaches at a school like that. And... no, it isn't that the girls don't know how pregnancies occur. Rather, it is just another "club" to join. They see others having babies and putting the best face on it, so they intentionally get pregnant as well, either just to have the status of having a baby (yes, seriously) or to try to trap a man. Of course, a lot of the guys have kids by several mothers so the whole man-trapping strategy is a big FAIL and a lot of these guys are not the type you want to trap anyway.

The solution? Get the kids thinking about the world outside their neighborhood. Sounds trite, but education is the answer. Not so much sex ed- they know all too well about that- but college prep. This means more than just giving them beefy class loads; it also means leading them through the college selection and application process. It also, to an extent, means supporting them when they do go off to college in order to build a track record of success that shows that aspiring to more than being a beauty salon worker or a tattoo artist is realistic.

The problem is that for a lot of these kids, there hasn't been upward mobility for generations and the stagnation of scraping by in their own little section of the hood is the only possiblity they think is out there, based on the previous generation. Even if the parents support education, they have no idea how to really support their kids becuase they had them when they (the parents) were in high school. They were trapped in bare subsistence and have no way to know how to inspire their kids to strive for more. That whole part of their lives is missing.

My wife keeps in touch with some of her former students and makes herself available to answer questions, give advice, etc., knowing that many of these kids realize their parents don't have a clue about higher education. She was proud as anything when one of her first students came back at Christmas time and said that, after being on academic probation his first year, he is now getting As and Bs in his engineering studies. Even in poor neighborhoods, there is no reason why this shouldn't be a more common occurrence.

Give them something to strive for, expect great things, and they will rise above (including avoiding teen pregnancies).

I pretty much operate under the assumption that everyone around me is an idiot. That way I'm not disappointed if they are, and am pleasantly surprised if they're not.

Ding Ding! That's the safe approach. Especially behind the wheel.

Another way to look at this article is, 90 more babies that all the responsible tax payers get to pay for. Yay!! Whoop Whoop!!!!

It is the parents job to educate the children, but many are falling short. Who else is there? Poor teachers, what an unfair burden lazy selfish parents have placed on them.

Sure it might be possible that some girls were unaware they could get pregnant... plausible. All 90 of them.... i don't know.

Considering this has been the pattern at the school for some time I don't see how very many could have been unaware. After all most of them saw last years batch of babies.

Another way to look at this article is, 90 more babies that all the responsible tax payers get to pay for. Yay!! Whoop Whoop!!!!

It is the parents job to educate the children, but many are falling short. Who else is there? Poor teachers, what an unfair burden lazy selfish parents have placed on them.

Speaking for my wife, a teacher, I think the best teachers pay attention to the whole student, not just the coursework. If it is understood they are not getting proper parenting at home, most teachers will, up to a point, try to guide the kids as best they can. It's a fine line, though, because as I said, sometimes the students want to get pregnant, and the parents see nothing wrong with it (especially if they followed the same route themselves). That's part of the reason my wife doesn't fight it head-on but instead tries to get her students to realize how much potential they have. Motivate them to want those things and many will do what it takes to get there. But if they have no realistic options, yeah, gettin' preggers and collecting welfare doesn't sound like a bad idea to them.

I don't know how you can blame the girls without blaming the boys at the same time.

I don't know how you can blame the girls without blaming the boys at the same time.

Don't worry DHS will take care of that eventually.

Don't worry DHS will take care of that eventually.

No they won't. They won't make the boys into good fathers.

No they won't. They won't make the boys into good fathers.

No they won't, but usually after a few DNA tests the find the right one, and attempt to make him pay some small amount of child support.

Right, they'll attempt. And he'll end up paying next to nothing.

So it's not OK to blame the girls without blaming the boys at the same time.

Right, they'll attempt. And he'll end up paying next to nothing.

So it's not OK to blame the girls without blaming the boys at the same time.

Yeesh! #20 was mostly sarcasm. I forget that many people don't get my sense of humor in real life, let alone on the internet. I need a sarcasm smilie.

Right, they'll attempt. And he'll end up paying next to nothing.

So it's not OK to blame the girls without blaming the boys at the same time.

#22 was a smart ass stereotype remark, didn't you see the "after a few DNA tests?" After this comment I should have put a much needed :smart ass smilie:

My wife teaches at a school like that. And... no, it isn't that the girls don't know how pregnancies occur. Rather, it is just another "club" to join. They see others having babies and putting the best face on it, so they intentionally get pregnant as well, either just to have the status of having a baby (yes, seriously) or to try to trap a man. Of course, a lot of the guys have kids by several mothers so the whole man-trapping strategy is a big FAIL and a lot of these guys are not the type you want to trap anyway.

A very informed post. What contributes to the problem are the role models these kinds have - everyone from football and basketball platers to music and movie stars. The trend is for couples to have children - period, without thoughts to marriage or even long term relationships. When you're 16, you want to act like you're older and emmulate your idols. And later if the child becomes a burden, they have mom, grandama, and aunt or cousin to take the child.

...or, they're stuck raising a child when they can hardly provide for themselves, which hamstrings their ability to better themselves, which feeds the cycle.

stansteven and doohickie make good points. No matter how you look at it, it's sad! And also angering.

Makel, I did understand your sarcasm. Sorry I responded seriously. Sometimes, I don't know how not to. I guess it's a serious subject for me. I get what you're saying: that what the government does doesn't help the situation. Not that it ever could.

Doohickie gets my vote. You ARE running for president right? :)

We don't need to "educate" the girls (or boys) more. We need to actually show we care about them enough to help guide them on the path through high school and onto college. Lack of caring is a big part of the soaring drop-out rate, high teen pregnancy rate etc. We need like a gazillion times more educators like Doohickie's wife.

It IS anger-provoking.

Ignorance... sometimes. Most of the time, it's the "immortality" of youth -- "that won't happen to ME!" There's also the idea that too many teen girls think they're grown all of the sudden, and of course, the teen boys (who ALSO think they're grown) are going to promote that thinking, so they can get that UM-HM!

Smarter heads than ours have been scratched over dealing with the "babies having babies" trend.

It's not right for ANYBODY -- the kids' lives are truncated by caring for the baby; the parents of the 'producing' kids give up the planning they did for their own golden years to take up the slack. We the taxpayers have to subsidize their daycare and medical. Babies grow up without meaningful parenting, because the kid-parents don't KNOW. You absolutely WILL NOT have a productive life if you were raised with the idea of "I'm grown, I can do what I please, don't have to take crap from nobody!"

And yeah, there are some guys who NEED to be 'truncated' for having too many they don't take care of, too.........

I pretty much operate under the assumption that everyone around me is an idiot. That way I'm not disappointed if they are, and am pleasantly surprised if they're not. It has helped keep my stress and annoyance levels in check.

a very sound strategy for dealing with people. I'm going to appropriate it for my own use.

You are all assuming that the student would want to -avoid- pregnancy. My Dad taught at a middle school and there were numerous pregnancies each year. These were not accidental... the girls were trying to have enough babies so by the time they graduated they could live off of welfare comfortably. One girl was pregnant with her 2nd at the beginning of 8th grade and was very upset that she was "behind schedule".

Another true tale from da hood.
Likely the grandparents will raise those kids.

Another true tale from da hood.
Likely the grandparents will raise those kids.

Not just in "da hood" any more as the hoodrats have reached out to the burbs and beyond, not to mention the tragic and scary amount of little "white boy/girl ghetto wannabes" running around these days.

Bring back norplant!!!!!