Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - What do you reckon I could sell my bike for?

Hey all,

I've been in the game for about a year now and I'm looking to move on from my current bike. It's a 2009 Masi Speciale Fixed, like so:

http://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/BikeSpecs.aspx?Year=2009&Brand=Masi&Model=Speciale+Fixed&Type=bike

Don't get me wrong, it's been a great bike, I'm just ready to expand my cycling horizons. It's mostly stock except it has Origin8 bullhorns and the freewheel is an ACS Claws. It's in good condition save some minor cosmetic blemishes and a slight bend in the crank on the side where the chainring is attached, but it still rides great. I live in a college town so I don't doubt that it'll get some attention from the local Craigslist, but what should I reasonably expect out of it?

Thanks,
rawsted

I'll buy it for $150.

i love masis.

Really? No better insights than this?

There was a NEW orange Masi Speciale Fixed with riser bars that went for $259 + $89 shipping on eBay.

I just logged in and found it...good information, though this one seems to have an inferior crankset and pedals. If anyone else wants to chime in feel free, but I think I know where I'll start it.

Thanks.

Your crankset may be better, but you also said that one of the crank arms is bent.

Yours is used and the upgrades are fairly minor, so I'd say you will be doing pretty well if you can get anything near the eBay one.

Yeah it's a slight bend from a collision with the business end of a car, but with the right tools and a little time it'd be pretty easy to straighten. Don't worry, I'm not going to try and rip anyone off.

The Masi, just like the Steamroller, just like any other "name brand" image bike is way overpriced for the physical quality of the frame and components. Fact is that in most respects it's no better than say cough cough a Kilo TT Pro, and I'm no great fan of the Kilo. Even brand new in minty mint condition, the true value of that bike is less than $500, but with a bent crank it's worth much much less. If I were interested, I'd offer at best $200.

Tejano: that's funny because my plans were to build a Steamroller. What's a better frame for the money, then?

Leader and IRO have been getting good rep on this board lately.

I've looked at IRO before - I'd like very much to have a Jamie Roy but who knows when they'll start making them again? I'll take a look at Leader.

i love masis.

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Tejano: that's funny because my plans were to build a Steamroller. What's a better frame for the money, then?

A steamroller at best will be a lateral move. IDK what kind lf bike you want, but there are many vastly better steel framesets out there for about the same price. For example, you can buy Wabi Classic http://www.wabicycles.com/classic_bike_spec_cream10.html made with Reynolds 735 tubing, including a headset for $370, which is less than the cost of a CroMo Steamroller w/o a headset.

I was using the Masi as a fixed commuter/around town bike, and I realize there's a more practical style for this kind of use but, like a lot of people, I have an affinity for the aesthetic of classic track geometry. So, my plan was to build a single speed Steamroller with fatter tires than 700x23 (but not terribly fat), bullhorns and fenders. If you guys think Leader or Wabi would give a better value, then I'll definitely heed your expertise as I came here to get learned and could give a **** less about 'street cred' or whatever.

Hey all,

I've been in the game for about a year ..... blah blah blah

Wait, there's a game?

All City Big Block.

+1 on wabi. I've heard there are light(:

On the Classic and Vintage forum, all inquiries as to the price one would pay for such and such bike are greeted with the same reply: $3.99

The reason for this is because ebay sellers come in and want to get an idea on how to price their latest flip. The C & V created a separate "what is my bike worth?" forum to handle them.

Rawsted, just put your bike on CL or eBay with a good, honest description and good pictures. You should have no trouble selling it.

Just a random note, if you end up going in the direction of an IRO Mark V, I was able to put 35 CST on them. To my surprise, thankfully so given all the snow illinois seems to be getting.

Wait, there's a game?

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Haha first off, Scrod, when will there be an xbox skin featuring you? Second, you had a front end collision with a car? Only slightly bent, and could be bent back? Ok i'll give you that, because everyone knows that bending metal back and forth makes it stronger. Or weaker, i forget. Third, You have a thing for classic track geometry with wide tires? Or do you...hmmm. ;)

+1 on the wabi.
or a leader 722ts

Are these guys serious? Recommending a Leader over a Masi? Oh wait, I get it now, hahaha.

Anyway, $300-$350 would be a fair price if the cranks weren't dented. I've always liked the Masis but no way would I spend more when I can get a brand new Kilo TT in that price range. Entry-level fixies are a dime a dozen now, but this bike is still a step above that retrospec/crosslakes crap.

I ride a Kilo TT for commuting now, put some cruiser bars (chopped) and was able to fit 28s on there. On wet days I'll throw on some SKS Raceblades and I'm ready. The geometry is a bit aggressive for casual riding, though, and the short chainstays make a rear rack/pannier setup suboptimal. If I were to do it over, I'd get the Bianchi San Jose or the Redline 925. Too bad the Kilo has such poor resale value. Oh well. Those Wabi's seem interesting, but I've never seen one up close.

Haha first off, Scrod, when will there be an xbox skin featuring you?

Sony is working on it. They're having trouble getting the beard just right.


+1 on the wabi.
or a leader 722ts

Agreed. Even though the 722TS has been getting some attention, it's still a very underrated frame. Wabi is also an excellent choice.

Second, you had a front end collision with a car?
Crosswalk had go signal, guy turning left didn't have a green arrow but went during a break in traffic and I smacked into his front left quarter panel; laceration/contusion to my knee and my foot was almost crushed under his tire. Handlebars mangled along with rear wheel as well as a damaged freewheel.


Only slightly bent, and could be bent back? Ok i'll give you that, because everyone knows that bending metal back and forth makes it stronger. Or weaker, i forget.
Yes, slightly bent, as in a fraction of a millimeter and only noticeable if you carefully watch the distance between the chainring and the inside of the chainstay during rotation. If you're implying that a correctional bend is going to noticeably or effectually compromise the structural integrity of the metal, well I think you're wrong.


Third, You have a thing for classic track geometry with wide tires? Or do you...hmmm. ;)
I presume your critical facetiousness is due to the fact that my current bike neither has wide tires nor classic track geometry, strictly speaking. I suppose I should have said "based on" a track geometry, or merely used the adjective "aggressive". If my presumption is incorrect, please clarify so that I may address your concerns presently. Overall point being however is this: please don't patronize me because I'm not as knowledgeable (read: cool) as you are. I think I've done more homework than most and I'm being as humble as I know how to as my purpose for joining this forum is to learn.

Thanks.

You're not going to get much for a crashed Masi. I'm lowering my previous offer of $150 to $10.

Classic track geometry won't be ideal for commuting. What is your budget?

OP - I think you are being totally disingenuous here. You started out in your OP saying that the only reason you wanted to sell the Masi was "I'm just ready to expand my cycling horizons." Now, it turns out that it's been in a pretty bad wreck, which is the real reason you want to sell it. Your initial characterization of the damage as "cosmetic" has no basis in fact, and you really have no way of knowing. There may also be hidden damage to the frame that could eventually result in failure. In any case, I would not assign any value whatsoever to that bike, given its history.

Classic track geometry won't be ideal for commuting. What is your budget?
I know it isn't, I acknowledged that earlier. My tennis shoes aren't ideal for walking, either, but you never know when someone might challenge you to a game ;)

I am gainfully employed, but I don't want to spend more than $1000.


OP - I think you are being totally disingenuous here. You started out in your OP saying that the only reason you wanted to sell the Masi was "I'm just ready to expand my cycling horizons." Now, it turns out that it's been in a pretty bad wreck, which is the real reason you want to sell it. Your initial characterization of the damage as "cosmetic" has no basis in fact, and you really have no way of knowing. There may also be hidden damage to the frame that could eventually result in failure. In any case, I would not assign any value whatsoever to that bike, given its history.
Not disengenuous, the fact that I crashed it isn't factoring into my decision to sell. It happened last August and I've been happily riding it every day since about 2 weeks following the incident. No, there's no way of "knowing", but, lest this devolve into a philosophical debate, there's no way of "knowing" that any given used (or new for that matter) bike won't catastrophically fail all-of-the-sudden. My feeling is that it has more than proved it's soundness given the fact that I've put it through the paces every day since (my daily commute before I recently moved was ~8 miles round trip, now about ~5 up and down hill both ways). I often ride it hands-free and it tracks perfectly, straight and narrow. And, cosmetically, the frame came out of it unscathed - the crash really sounds worse than it was, I doubt very sincerely I was traveling much faster than 5mph.

I often ride it hands-free


a collision with the business end of a car


I often ride it hands-free


a collision with the business end of a car


I often ride it hands-free


a collision with the business end of a car

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Quick somebody post a CL ad in Gainesville, FL, USA that warns people to be aware of a cheap masi especiale! Protect the masses!

Post #1


It's in good condition save some minor cosmetic blemishes and a slight bend in the crank on the side where the chainring is attached..

Post #8


Yeah it's a slight bend from a collision with the business end of a car, but with the right tools and a little time it'd be pretty easy to straighten.

Post #25


...laceration/contusion to my knee and my foot was almost crushed under his tire. Handlebars mangled along with rear wheel as well as a damaged freewheel.

So what other unimportant details have we not heard?

So I know how these things work, at one time I was a forum administrator myself. You guys have your little kiddy club, and you like to flame new users to get your kicks, I get it. I'm not bothered.

Scrodzilla: Yeah, and the incident happened before I had even learned how to ride hands-free. I also always wear a helmet, don't remove wheel reflectors and choose to use reflecting straps over rolling my pants up. Yourself?

TejanoTrackie: And? All of those statements are true and none contradict any of the others; I invite you to prove otherwise. Whatever perception of change in story you might have you've manufactured purely in your own imagination. I know what happened, I know the severity of it, I know the condition of the bike because I've been riding it for the past 6 months following the accident. Also, not that it means anything to you, but the LBS which performed the repairs gave it their seal of approval.

Scrodzilla: Yeah, and the incident happened before I had even learned how to ride hands-free. I also always wear a helmet, don't remove wheel reflectors and choose to use reflecting straps over rolling my pants up. Yourself?

I'm not sure what you want from me here. What do my riding habits and whether or not I wear a helmet have to do with you trying to pawn off a crashed bike?

I'm not sure what you want from me here. What do my riding habits and whether or not I wear a helmet have to do with you trying to pawn off a crashed bike?
You don't necessarily have to give me anything, but your insinuation was that I'm an unsafe rider. The stone was cast by you first, so you must be without sin, eh? Look out, you're both edgy AND cautious, walking contradiction be damned!

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Oh Scrod, you've clearly outclassed me. Instead of being a man and admitting hypocrisy, you posted an image of an irrelevant, inapplicable & antiquated (as far as these things go) Internet meme! Shiet, got me good there. I'm taking notes, I hope you don't mind.

So I know how these things work, at one time I was a forum administrator myself. You guys have your little kiddy club, and you like to flame new users to get your kicks, I get it. I'm not bothered.

Paranoid much?

Unless it has a NJS stamp nobody wants a frame that has been crashed. No one.

"Hypocrisy"? What makes me a "hypocrite"?

Take all the notes you'd like. You still probably won't ever be worth a good meme.

Paranoid much?
No, decidedly. Refer to posts 22, 27, 29, 30, 31, 35 and then tell me (with a straight face) that there's no griefing/eHazing going on here.


Unless it has a NJS stamp nobody wants a frame that has been crashed. No one.
Point taken.

Scrod:
hypocrisy, n: the state of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie.

What makes you a hypocrite? Review the posts, read the definition, and think real hard. You'll figure it out eventually.

Yes Mr. Wizard, I know the definition. I just don't see how I was being hypocritical in any way here. You crashed a bike and now you're trying to sell it. Yup, got it. You're a safe rider, yet you were involved in a pretty bad crash with a car. Check. You have reflectors on your bike and legs, yet still managed to crash. But you're super awesome at riding no-handed now though, so it's cool.

Wipe your bum and learn how to take a joke.

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