Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - $300 for cranks?

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datflipkid
01-25-11, 11:58 PM
What kind of crankset should i get for a 6 mile commute for under $300
andels
6 mile commute is nothing. you could literally walk.
seriously, get some kazane or andel or pake or origin8. why commute on something more expensive?
yummygooey
01-26-11, 12:00 AM
You can pretty much get anything you want for $300. I have no preference between Sugino 75s, Dura Ace, and SRAM Omniums.
$300 on cranks for a 6 mile commute is pretty overkill, but then again I have Omniums on my daily. What's the rest of your setup? Why don't you take some extra money and put it towards some nicer wheels/saddle/bars or something?
fixedgear80
01-26-11, 12:01 AM
Haha For a 6 mile commute $60 cranks will do you just fine
Origin 8
EighthInch
datflipkid
01-26-11, 12:06 AM
Nothing else to spend my money on.
It gets pretty windy at the beach in the morning what wheels are good for that?
fixedgear80
01-26-11, 12:08 AM
Super Duper Deep V's act as bike sails. Get some low-pro rims
datflipkid
01-26-11, 12:09 AM
aerospokeszzzzz
so just one front aerospoke would be fine ?
fixedgear80
01-26-11, 12:09 AM
And by the way if you have $300 to spend on cranks....what did you spend on your frame????
four aerospokes
plus a pizza concept
datflipkid
01-26-11, 12:10 AM
or should i save up and get rid of my schwin madison..
but what would i get
BmoreDrew
01-26-11, 12:13 AM
Lots of options.
Campy Record Pista, Dura-Ace, FSA Carbon, SRAM Omnium.
sell the madison and buy a FA18 hornet
yummygooey
01-26-11, 12:15 AM
You're going to put $300 cranks on a $400 bike? Does not compute.
Lots of options.
Campy Record Pista, Dura-Ace, FSA Carbon, SRAM Omnium.
if you're going to list $350 cranks as a joke, leave the omniums out of it.
datflipkid
01-26-11, 12:17 AM
sell the madison and buy a FA18 hornet
over kill for a 6mile commute hmm?
The thing is my friend just gave me his bike and took his cranks back to make another one
so I have money to buy cranks..
Or i can just sell the frame and buy another good one but i dont know what
yummygooey
01-26-11, 12:22 AM
Spend a couple hours searching around this forum to see what's popular. You should find quite a bit. Read some reviews, etc. Then get back to us about how to blow $300.
If you really want to stick with the Madison, I suggest lowering your price range to something around $80-120. A few popular options around this range are:
- Andel square taper
- SRAM S300
- Sugino Messenger
The Madison is not a bad frame and many people on this forum swear buy it. If it fits you and your needs, keep it. Use $300 towards better parts (don't blow it all on a crankset), and if/when you feel like moving on to a better frame, you can take the nice parts with you.
datflipkid
01-26-11, 12:23 AM
You're going to put $300 cranks on a $400 bike? Does not compute.
all i need are cranks and i have "up to" $300 bucks to spend on them.
but sure I'm willing to attempt to sell my frame, buy a cheap ass crankset, and buy a better frame.
honestly i'd find a bike co-op that has used road double cranksets
even if you have to buy a bb to respace the crank spindle, it would still be a $15 fix or so to a problem that really isn't worth fixing.
unless he had ridiculously nice parts on his madison, it's not worth putting 80 dollars into with pake cranks.
get some ebay auction specials for 40 bucks or something cheap and used.
BmoreDrew
01-26-11, 12:44 AM
if you're going to list $350 cranks as a joke, leave the omniums out of it.
Does it piss you off?
Higher Class
01-26-11, 06:11 AM
You're not going to notice a difference in performance between $300 track arms and $40 used road arms on a 6 mile commute. My suggestion is to spend the money where you will notice the difference. i.e. saddle, wheels, tires, handlebars/tape, etc. Or invest toward your comfortable retirement or something; don't let the money burn holes in your pockets.
p.s. or you can accessorize! Do you have a nice set of lights? How about a nice rain/wind jacket? Spoke cards? Holga 120N?
Scrodzilla
01-26-11, 06:23 AM
Is this thread for real?
bcbb_ben
01-26-11, 06:57 AM
Sell me your Madison, and but a pogo stick. It's easier on your knees than skidz.
hamish5178
01-26-11, 07:05 AM
Spoke cards? Holga 120N?
Case of PBR? Latest Animal Collective album on vinyl?
Don't get me wrong, I think the OP is dumb.
But it's pretty hilarious that people are saying "6 MILES IS WAY TOO SHORT TO FEEL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIGH END TRACK CRANKS AND A CHEAP ROAD DOUBLE".
Because I'm pretty sure most track events are shorter than 6 miles, and I'm pretty sure super stiff cranks are most noticeable in all-out sprints regardless of how long your commute is. So, if anything, super stiff cranks make more sense for a 6 mile commute than a 20 mile commute, because you could possibly hammer that much harder for the whole 20 minutes it takes to go 6 miles.
adriano
01-26-11, 08:10 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160527426345#vi-content
Truly, the only logical choice for a budget fixed gear frame.
Although for my money, I think this is a good option as well:
http://cgi.ebay.com/TRUVATIV-HAMMERSCHMIDT-FR-MTB-CRANKSET-170MM-/160528441118?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item25603d9f1e
Will required some frame modifications but any frame builder can probably do them for less than $1,000.
clink83
01-26-11, 08:59 AM
Don't get me wrong, I think the OP is dumb.
But it's pretty hilarious that people are saying "6 MILES IS WAY TOO SHORT TO FEEL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIGH END TRACK CRANKS AND A CHEAP ROAD DOUBLE".
Because I'm pretty sure most track events are shorter than 6 miles, and I'm pretty sure super stiff cranks are most noticeable in all-out sprints regardless of how long your commute is. So, if anything, super stiff cranks make more sense for a 6 mile commute than a 20 mile commute, because you could possibly hammer that much harder for the whole 20 minutes it takes to go 6 miles.
+1. Not to mention cheap crank =cheap BB, and you can for sure notice that.
stillanimal
01-26-11, 12:46 PM
for real though, try to win these.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sugino-Mighty-Track-crank-crankset-NJS-/390282726383?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5adea9cbef#ht_500wt_1129
TejanoTrackie
01-26-11, 01:12 PM
for real though, try to win these.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sugino-Mighty-Track-crank-crankset-NJS-/390282726383?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5adea9cbef#ht_500wt_1129
Er, did you notice they are 151bcd and chainring is 52T? Good luck trying to find another chainring. Also, crank arms are 171mm.
Higher Class
01-26-11, 01:18 PM
Don't get me wrong, I think the OP is dumb.
But it's pretty hilarious that people are saying "6 MILES IS WAY TOO SHORT TO FEEL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIGH END TRACK CRANKS AND A CHEAP ROAD DOUBLE".
Because I'm pretty sure most track events are shorter than 6 miles, and I'm pretty sure super stiff cranks are most noticeable in all-out sprints regardless of how long your commute is. So, if anything, super stiff cranks make more sense for a 6 mile commute than a 20 mile commute, because you could possibly hammer that much harder for the whole 20 minutes it takes to go 6 miles.
Yeah, because this kid is obviously 110% busting ass like a track star on his commute.
I drew the conclusion, based on OP's knowledge of cranksets, that he/she isn't an Olympic athlete and a set of cheap (but sturdy) older road crank arms would serve him just as well as whatever $300 crankset would.
cheap crank =cheap BB
lol wut. Like cheap seatpost = cheap saddle?
Grahamcracker
01-26-11, 01:29 PM
6 miles is longer than what most people on this forum ride anyway so don't let them get you down.
To the people that say that the OP wont be able to feel a difference between the cheapo cranks and nice ones in a 6 mile ride, really???. If you've got half a brain you can tell the difference in about 6 meters.
To the OP get some omniums for 165 bones new or some used sugino 75's for around the same price, both are great cranks. A good drivetrain is a great thing to have...
Ken Cox
01-26-11, 01:31 PM
How many people here think their athletic ability warrants a high end crank?
Why?
What difference will you feel?
I commute 7 miles on a bike that costs more than some people's cars.
I like beautiful machines and I can afford them.
The length of my commute, or the OP's commute, has no relevance.
He has the money, he wants to spend it, and he wants to know something about high end cranks.
I ride Sugino 75's with a Phil bottom bracket.
I don't like the aesthetics of the Phil bottom bracket (the cup sticks out on the non-drive side).
If I had it to do over, I'd go with a Sugino bottom bracket, for purely aesthetic reasons.
I have a white frame with all black components.
If black didn't matter, I'd have chosen the Dura Ace crank.
As it stands, I consider the Sugino 75 crank a work of art, worth every penny even if I just hung it on the wall and looked at it.
All the above said, my first fixed gear bike had a Sugino RD crank and I loved it.
A few popular options around this range are:
- Andel square taper
- SRAM S300
- Sugino Messenger
Dude, take your pick.
stillanimal
01-26-11, 01:48 PM
Er, did you notice they are 151bcd and chainring is 52T? Good luck trying to find another chainring. Also, crank arms are 171mm.
nope didn't notice the BCD. Oops. I think 171 length is probably fine for a maddy though.
TejanoTrackie
01-26-11, 01:56 PM
I think 171 length is probably fine for a maddy though.
??
clink83
01-26-11, 02:00 PM
I drew the conclusion, based on OP's knowledge of cranksets, that he/she isn't an Olympic athlete and a set of cheap (but sturdy) older road crank arms would serve him just as well as whatever $300 crankset would.
lol wut. Like cheap seatpost = cheap saddle?
Do you really think if someone buys a complete kit (cranks+chainring+bb) that they are going to get a quality BB for under 100 dollars? Or even for under 150?
TejanoTrackie
01-26-11, 02:14 PM
Do you really think if someone buys a complete kit (cranks+chainring+bb) that they are going to get a quality BB for under 100 dollars? Or even for under 150?
Yes. Example: Andel crankset with chainring $105 shipped, Andel Cobra BB $20 shipped. Total = $125. Excellent quality overall.
yummygooey
01-26-11, 02:17 PM
Do you really think if someone buys a complete kit (cranks+chainring+bb) that they are going to get a quality BB for under 100 dollars? Or even for under 150?
You can get SRAM S300s from thebikesmiths.com for $88 shipped and it comes with a 48t 3/32" chainring and a GXP BB. It might not be the best BB, but it's certainly good enough for commuting.
Yes. Example: Andel crankset with chainring $105 shipped, Andel Cobra BB $20 shipped. Total = $125. Excellent quality overall.
The SRAM GXP bb isn't that expensive either and comes with both the S300 and the Omniums also right?
And that bb is pretty nice too so I thought..
I drew the conclusion, based on OP's knowledge of cranksets, that he/she isn't an Olympic athlete and a set of cheap (but sturdy) older road crank arms would serve him just as well as whatever $300 crankset would.
That's cool. And you're 100% right.
But you didn't SAY that.
You didn't say "you won't be able to tell the difference because you're not nowledgeable or experienced enough."
You said "You won't be able to tell the difference because your commute is 6 miles."
Which is silly.
So.
clink83
01-26-11, 03:23 PM
You can get SRAM S300s from thebikesmiths.com for $88 shipped and it comes with a 48t 3/32" chainring and a GXP BB. It might not be the best BB, but it's certainly good enough for commuting.
That's not a bad deal at all. To be honest, I may be biased after riding my road bike, and after seeing so many budget crank kits with cheap BBs.
I hear chain BCD and manly hood are positively correlated.
Just sayin'
Grahamcracker
01-26-11, 04:22 PM
BB's are way overrated. I replace my BB once a year on my road bike. Right before race season and then it does all the winter base miles as well. I can't tell the difference between a new and fresh when i'm actually RIDING my bike. Well except when it starts creaking cause it wants grease, but yeah
hamish5178
01-26-11, 04:54 PM
If you can't tell the difference why do you replace it yearly?
Commuted thousands of miles (25-50miles/day) year round in northern mn on one piece cranks for quite a while. Unless you are trying to shave milliseconds off of your time at the velodrome, better tires or wheels would be a much better way to spend your money. IMO your commuter should be a comfortable tank, something that can take abuse haul lots of stuff and doesn't attract thieves.
Ken Cox
01-26-11, 07:01 PM
My seven mile commute represents the best part of my day.
I don't want a tank.
I want a jet fighter.
max5480
01-26-11, 07:23 PM
yeah, i don't think you have to justify a nice bike even if it just sits in your room never being ridden, as long as you love it. that being said, i don't see how anyone could love a schwinn madison enough to put anymore than $50 into it (to replace a broken chain or something...) i say save some more money and buy a sick frame, then put some vintage components on it.
I want a jet fighter.
sell the madison and buy a FA18 hornet
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