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marley mission
02-17-11, 01:33 PM
thats right - yesterday morning i went on a 4am bike ride and got hit in the rear tire by a deer

i see them all the time as i ride primarily in the dark AM hours - never did i think one would plow into me though

3 ran across in front and then i just heard hooves and bam

i got lucky though - nothing but an untrue tire was the result and it appeared the deer was ok too


Zaphod Beeblebrox
02-17-11, 01:36 PM
Too bad about the deer.
If its killed in the collision its yours to Eat! (don't try and confirm that with a game warden)


**edit**

just noticed you're in Jersey too. Have you noticed our Deer have been getting smarter around vehicles in the last few years? I have. Of course this incident sorta skews that a bit. Still, glad you got out with just a tweaked rear wheel....those bastards can be pretty mean when they're riled up.

ColonelJLloyd
02-17-11, 01:37 PM
Pheww! Close one! Glad to hear you're ok. Where I grew up deer were all over the place. Half the deer related accidents our family had were of deer running into the car. I recall once the family was in the car on a country road and stopped suddenly for a deer. It got spooked and jumped on the hood of the car. Deer hooves will eff up some paint!


-holiday76
02-17-11, 01:38 PM
What's a deer with no eyes?

No Ideer.

What's a deer with no legs?

Still no Ideer.

What's a deer with no eyes, legs, or penis?

Still no f$#%ing Ideer.

rhm
02-17-11, 01:42 PM
Oh, man, what a nightmare! Glad you're okay. I ride a lot in the pre-dawn hour, and hear deer as often as I see them. If a buck mistakes you for another buck, he may charge. This could turn out badly. They're incredibly stupid animals, basically the brain of a rabbit attached to the body of a small horse.

Zaphod Beeblebrox
02-17-11, 01:45 PM
^^ apt description ^^ :lol:

ColonelJLloyd
02-17-11, 01:47 PM
Agreed. Nice one, Rudi.

-holiday76
02-17-11, 01:52 PM
In addition to my last helpful post, I'll also add:

i ride through Valley Forge park (you know, winter of 1777-78?) daily on my commute (when I'm commuting daily) and there are thousands and thousands of deer there. I've had some close calls.

If you drive through the park almost any time of the day they're standing around, just like cattle in a field. Except with tiny brains. Maybe cows have tiny brains too.

ColonelJLloyd
02-17-11, 02:01 PM
Cows are, thankfully, not as fast and generally not as excitable. I recall a guy back home hit an adult cow (> 1,000 pounds) at about 60mph on a motorcycle when I was kid. No helmet. My school bus passed by the scene shortly thereafter. Cow remains and motorcycle bits everywhere. There was Johny walking home without a scratch. Some people are like deer; too dumb to die.

zjrog
02-17-11, 02:07 PM
That beats the time I slowed for a half dozen croosing the street here in town, and one plowed into the side of my truck... He got up and walked away. SLOWLY....

Zaphod Beeblebrox
02-17-11, 02:10 PM
Cow remains and motorcycle bits everywhere.

He left all that tasty Burger on the side of the road?!? damn Johnny, at least eat what ya kill!

JunkYardBike
02-17-11, 02:17 PM
What's a deer with no eyes?

No Ideer.

What's a deer with no legs?

Still no Ideer.

What's a deer with no eyes, legs, or penis?

Still no f$#%ing Ideer.

Spoken like a true Pennsyltukian.

-holiday76
02-17-11, 02:19 PM
Spoken like a true Pennsyltukian.

thanks!

JunkYardBike
02-17-11, 02:25 PM
If a buck mistakes you for another buck, he may charge. This could turn out badly.

This is the common fear-baiting used by hunters. Headline in The Anytown Weekly: Raging buck makes chop suey of local neighborhood Shih Tzu!

This past fall I encountered two sizable bucks while I was riding the bike. One stared me down until I was maybe 50 feet away then walked away. The other, oblivious to my approach, allowed me within 20 feet then shot like a bolt into the wood when it finally heard me. Once there, it stopped, located me again with its eyes, and dashed deeper into the wood. This was during rutting season.

ColonelJLloyd
02-17-11, 02:31 PM
Spoken like a true Pennsyltukian.

I've seen this term before, but finally got around to looking up the origin. Apparently this lady had a hit with a song about a farm in Pennsyltucky. Further reading leads me to believe she and the guy in my avatar, as Farley would say, got it on.

http://991.com/newGallery/Jeannie-Seely-Can-I-Sleep-In-Yo-328720.jpg

-holiday76
02-17-11, 02:44 PM
most of the state, when you travel away from either Philly or Pittsburgh, well, I'll just say it's working class.. Every state actually has this, but PA is basically all like this unless the you're within say 50 miles of one of the two major cities.

California's dirty little secret is that a huge majority of the state is actually pretty redneck. Florida? Don't get me started. New Jersey is just a bunch of idiots driving in traffic circles, thinking they're really just a suburb of NYC because NJ has zero decent large cities.

JunkYardBike
02-17-11, 02:47 PM
I've seen this term before, but finally got around to looking up the origin. Apparently this lady had a hit with a song about a farm in Pennsyltucky. Further reading leads me to believe she and the guy in my avatar, as Farley would say, got it on.

http://991.com/newGallery/Jeannie-Seely-Can-I-Sleep-In-Yo-328720.jpg

I don't buy it. Judging by the album cover, doesn't appear she's the type to roll around in the proverbial hay.

JunkYardBike
02-17-11, 02:52 PM
New Jersey is just a bunch of idiots driving in traffic circles, thinking they're really just a suburb of NYC because NJ has zero decent large cities.

Unfortunately, they've done away with many of the iconic traffic circles.

Much of NJ is rural or semi-rural, and arguably working class. I live in such an area. Regretfully, it too has been over-developed during the past two decades, as has much of the ex-burbs of many large population centers. At least the popped housing bubble has put a stop to this and will save some trees and open space. Long live the deer!

-holiday76
02-17-11, 02:55 PM
Unfortunately, they've done away with many of the iconic traffic circles.

Much of NJ is rural or semi-rural, and arguably working class. I live in such an area, though it has been over-developed during the past two decades like much of the ex-burbs of many large population centers. At least the popped housing bubble has put a stop to this and will save some trees and open space. Long live the deer!

all the traffic circles must be in south jersey then. I see them all the time.

Northern Jersey is beautiful and completely breaks the stereotype of that state. We have so many deer here too because of the development. This was all farmland not really that long ago at all and now it's almost all gone. My aunt and uncle sold the last dairy farm in Chester county in the late 80's!

Zaphod Beeblebrox
02-17-11, 03:14 PM
Northern Jersey is beautiful and completely breaks the stereotype of that state. We have so many deer here too because of the development. This was all farmland not really that long ago at all and now it's almost all gone. My aunt and uncle sold the last dairy farm in Chester county in the late 80's!

Shhh...we're attempting to keep that a secret ;)

The year I started High School (so the story goes) was the first year that People outnumbered Cows in Sussex County. I was never totally sure if that was a clever ruse or the full truth, because it seems pretty reasonable!

hellojoben
02-17-11, 03:21 PM
I have no deer experience, but I saw this standup on deer!

hopefully it makes you guys laugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPas5Xu0_8M&feature=fvst

louis is one of my favorite comics


profanity in the link..just in case you're one of those people who are offended by that sort of stuff

nlerner
02-17-11, 03:21 PM
I went to summer camp (and later worked as a camp counselor) in Elmer, NJ, which is near Vineland. That area was a hotbed of Ku Klux Klan activity mid 20th century (and perhaps now).

Neal

JunkYardBike
02-17-11, 03:24 PM
Shhh...we're attempting to keep that a secret ;)

The year I started High School (so the story goes) was the first year that People outnumbered Cows in Sussex County. I was never totally sure if that was a clever ruse or the full truth, because it seems pretty reasonable!

Possible. My father bought some property in Hardyston in the 80's with the plan of building his retirement home there (with his own hands). It was overlooking a beautiful valley with several farms, including a cattle farm fashioned after a Scottish Highlands farm. Then they built the Crystal Springs Golf Resort in the 90's, absolutely ruining the view. Apparently, the area now has a water shortage. He sold several years ago to a golfer.

zonatandem
02-17-11, 03:42 PM
Not all deer/critters are in New Jersey . . .
Years ago descending Mule Pass just outside of Bisbee, AZ on our tandem, we were coasting full tilt (50 mph) when wife/stoker asked me to tap the brakes and slow down a tad.
Did so; just then fawn darted out in front of us . . . very close call. If I had not listened to my stoker would've T-boned that deer at 50 mph.
Other critters out here:
This is open range country: cattle. And contrary to popular belief they can MOVE!
Had a bull jump a 3-strand fence in front of us on the tandem; looked a us wild-eyed, bounced off another a vine-covered fence seperating our road from the freeway . . . ran back in front of us and jumped the 3-strand fence going the otherway.
More wildlife: javelinas (wild pigs), coyotes, bobcats, etc.
However animals have never hit us but been hit several times by car/pickup . . . drivers with brains smaller than deer!

Velognome
02-17-11, 03:55 PM
We get urban deer in our yard all the time. I've tried to approach them, walking, sneaking, running; they always flee. The only way i've had one come to me is at night in a car at 60mph and now I've learned a bicycle works equally well. I concure, the charging buck thing is mostly urban myth, unless you've bathed in doe urin and atired yourself in brown velor....then you deserve it.

rhm
02-17-11, 04:26 PM
^Yeah, well. I was walking across the golf course behind my house last fall, or the fall before, when I heard this commotion in the rough. I looked, and I saw this big buck come bounding out of there and dang if he didn't run straight at me. He passed within 20 feet of me, and as I watched him run away I saw he had only one antler (on the left). As I continued walking, I heard this commotion in the rough. I looked, and I saw this big buck come bounding out of there and dang if he didn't run straight at me. He passed within 15 feet of me, and as I watched him run away I saw he too had only one antler (on the left). For a while there, I could see both bucks running away across the golf course. It was a rather bizarre moment.

sailorbenjamin
02-17-11, 04:47 PM
I was half way expecting a punch line at the end of that story.

I sorta like Jersey. Except for the potholes. The folks are ok.

Aemmer
02-17-11, 04:58 PM
My friend had a deer jump out of the bushes right into the middle of his groups paceline. My buddy was one bike back and the deer took out the rider in front of him. My friend then ran into the rider and deer and had the rider behind him ride up his back. Broken seat stay (my buddies CF Giant) and one ambulance ride (Rider 1). Nobody knew the deer was there until it bolted.

I bet a classic steel bike would have taken the hit better.

scozim
02-17-11, 05:29 PM
Cows are, thankfully, not as fast and generally not as excitable.

Maybe where you live - they flippin' freak out at cyclists around here. I seem to run across one or two out on the road each week. The worst was coming around a 90 degree corner, upshifting and standing up to accelerate and then looking up to see a 1500 - 2000 lb bull standing in the middle of the road. He went right and I went left as far from him as I could and we both watched each other as I rolled past. Also been caught on the road during a couple of cattle drives. Had to get off the bike on the side of the road while the cows started crashing into each other as they came by me.

bobbycorno
02-17-11, 05:39 PM
Have you noticed our Deer have been getting smarter around vehicles in the last few years? I have.

Boy, they sure aren't around here! Still as clueless as ever when it comes to roads and traffic. Case in point: last winter I was on my way to work (on my bike), the roads were a bit frosty-slick, and I came upon a doe standing in the middle of the street, totally oblivious to my approach. I rang my bell to warn her, all four hooves went in different directions and she went down in a heap, leapt up and trotted off, no harm done. If I'd had a video camera running I could be $10k richer.

SP
Bend, OR

David Newton
02-17-11, 05:56 PM
Wow, 2 pages on a near-deer! Glad you are OK.

I was driving at midnight in rural Vermont, oxymoron I know.
My older son, as co-pilot, yells "moose!"
That'll put the fear in ya. It was probably twice the weight of my car.

BentLink
02-17-11, 06:08 PM
Glad the critter didn't take more of a toll! I've had a few close calls, but never any contact with them while riding...they do however seem attracted to my cars. Note my location...

YoKev
02-17-11, 06:12 PM
I've had a couple of really close calls. Next time, I'm slapping that deer on the ass just to prove a point.

marley mission
02-17-11, 06:14 PM
thanks guys - glad i'm ok too

truth is - i love the deer - athletic marvels they are

was back out this AM and saw a few deer of course

a different respect though - i mean - i am always a vigilant rider and i dont think there was anything i did wrong - i mean - i couldnt "recreate" a sequence like that if i tried

but i have to admit - and it sounds silly to say i know - but the whole experience was kinda exhilirating - not everyday you get clipped by a deer right

heres to the return of warm(er) weather

degan
02-17-11, 06:14 PM
There are a bunch of city deer that live in the various parks and fields in town. From time to time, usually at night, they'll be out and about. A few times I've been able to ride right up to them, within a yard or so. At the time I think its cool, but I don't think deer really should be that okay with people. Neat though.

Wogster
02-17-11, 06:50 PM
I have no deer experience, but I saw this standup on deer!

hopefully it makes you guys laugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPas5Xu0_8M&feature=fvst

louis is one of my favorite comics

Probably should have put a Profanity - warning on this....

Wogster
02-17-11, 06:56 PM
Wow, 2 pages on a near-deer! Glad you are OK.

I was driving at midnight in rural Vermont, oxymoron I know.
My older son, as co-pilot, yells "moose!"
That'll put the fear in ya. It was probably twice the weight of my car.

Moose are big, heavy and pretty darn good eating, you just wanna make sure if you hit one, your driving an Abrams M1 tank :eek: On a bicycle, avoidance might be the best idea.

electrik
02-17-11, 07:04 PM
Moose are big, heavy and pretty darn good eating, you just wanna make sure if you hit one, your driving an Abrams M1 tank :eek: On a bicycle, avoidance might be the best idea.

Just tuck down and aim for the gap between the legs! Hahaha.

I've also come veeery close to hitting deer on the bicycle, so yes... and i'll always warn everybody else when i spot them because they'll bolt and the last doe without a clue is the one you'll hit!

khatfull
02-17-11, 07:09 PM
Northern Jersey is beautiful and completely breaks the stereotype of that state. We have so many deer here too because of the development. This was all farmland not really that long ago at all and now it's almost all gone. My aunt and uncle sold the last dairy farm in Chester county in the late 80's!

I lived in West Milford for 4.5 years in my youth. Without question the best place I've lived. Probably different now but back then it was like Heaven and Nirvana had a child.

JunkYardBike
02-17-11, 07:24 PM
I lived in West Milford for 4.5 years in my youth. Without question the best place I've lived. Probably different now but back then it was like Heaven and Nirvana had a child.

New Jersey? West Milford is actually one of the few places that actively resisted the development boom, with strict residential and commercial zoning laws. There are some developments, but it is still heavily wooded, and there is very little commercial and industrial real estate.

Oh, and Jungle Habitat is now a mountain biking paradise.

-holiday76
02-17-11, 07:26 PM
Is Milford near Port Jervis? I've cycles up that way a few times coming back form New York. Pretty.

snarkypup
02-17-11, 07:36 PM
Just read this in an article from Esquire magazine. Liam Neeson (I think he's talking about a motorcycle, but anyway):

"You have to know, one wet leaf can ruin you.

Th' deer come out of nowhere. Front paws straight up the handlebars.

Look at me. I'm riding like this — you're the deer. We're face-to-face. And your legs are in the spokes.

My peripheral vision sees this grassy verge with trees, and I'm wanting to pull over. It was amazing. Not a car in sight. I should have just slammed on the brakes, put the thing up on its stand, and quit. For some reason I wanted to get off the road. And of course it wasn't a horizontal verge at all. It was downhill, twelve feet, and there were a couple of sapling trees. Me and the bike and the deer slid down. The bike broke in half. The deer rolled farther down into a ditch, where if I had gone, no one would have ever found me. I gradually pulled myself up and got to the side of the road. I took off my jacket, and I sat there listening to this deer making this awful sound. And I was laughing and I was crying, and I looked down at this leg, and it was getting bigger, my jeans were getting tighter, so I knew I'd done something. But I thought it might not be much. Hoped. This man on a truck, full of muck, stopped and called the authorities. They got me to a local hospital, and I got this gorgeous shot of morphine. But I'd broken my pelvis in two places. My local doctor arranged for transfer to Lenox Hill Hospital in the city, and when I got there, they had called my wife.

I found out later they'd told her I wouldn't last the night. Well, they never f*ing told me that.

She was shooting, up in Canada, and she came straightaway to the city. So eight hours later, after the bleeding's stopped, I wake up in the operating room, before they start the procedure, and it was like a TV movie: five little heads looking down at me, and among them was my wife's. And I said, What the f*k are you doing here? She said, They called me, I drove down from Canada.

Then afterwards, it's funny, because afterwards — this is weeks afterwards — Natasha and I, we'd get into an argument. I'd try and replay it back. And obviously the time is over in some way, it's behind you, but the chronology of events — but everything I remembered happening was very large. I couldn't understand something. I said, Darlin', if they told you I wasn't going to last the night, why'd you not get a priest in? I said, I know I'm a lapsed Catholic, but at least give me the last rites, you know? She said, Had I told you, then you would have known that you might be dying.

That's a fair point, I suppose. I had to get my head round that logic. At the same time, I coulda died and it woulda been nice to get a little of the old extreme unction, as it's called. All the oils."

hellojoben
02-17-11, 08:14 PM
Probably should have put a Profanity - warning on this....

put one in there for the future readers of the thread


sorry if it was offensive

Zaphod Beeblebrox
02-17-11, 09:49 PM
Is Milford near Port Jervis? I've cycles up that way a few times coming back form New York. Pretty.


No, that's Milford PA you're thinking of. West Milford is East of there, in NJ. Think about that for a second :lol:

Keith, I'm actually about to buy a house in West Milford. Rural is a good description. I'll be about 2-3 miles from Greenwood Lake.

Velognome
02-17-11, 10:02 PM
Keith, I'm actually about to buy a house in West Milford. Rural is a good description. I'll be about 2-3 miles from Greenwood Lake.

There goes the bike fund!

RFC
02-18-11, 12:14 AM
Not all deer/critters are in New Jersey . . .
Years ago descending Mule Pass just outside of Bisbee, AZ on our tandem, we were coasting full tilt (50 mph) when wife/stoker asked me to tap the brakes and slow down a tad.
Did so; just then fawn darted out in front of us . . . very close call. If I had not listened to my stoker would've T-boned that deer at 50 mph.
Other critters out here:
This is open range country: cattle. And contrary to popular belief they can MOVE!
Had a bull jump a 3-strand fence in front of us on the tandem; looked a us wild-eyed, bounced off another a vine-covered fence seperating our road from the freeway . . . ran back in front of us and jumped the 3-strand fence going the otherway.
More wildlife: javelinas (wild pigs), coyotes, bobcats, etc.
However animals have never hit us but been hit several times by car/pickup . . . drivers with brains smaller than deer!

I ran over a skunk once. Now I dodge javelinas.

oldlugs
02-18-11, 01:41 AM
For a while back in the 90's I was averaging at least two deer per season with my car, every time I got lucky and the car survived. None were direct impacts, always just glancing blows. The deer rarely survives though. Most of the time it ended up in the freezer.

About 10 years ago I got one in a truck out on 476 in PA, it was dark, I was heading down a hill heading north of Wilkes Barre and as I flipped on the high beams I see a huge buck 100' ahead staring at me in my lane. I had borrowed the truck from one of the company's other divisions to get a load of stone for the driveway at our office, I knew enough not to try to avoid him with a full load of quarry rock in a 20+ year old truck, and there was just no slowing down heading downhill with near 80,000lbs of weight. It was a now you see it, now you don't type of moment, only I couldn't see anything through the gut covered windshield. The thing popped like a water balloon covering the whole truck. The guy who washed the truck said he walked around the truck with a bucket picking off pieces twice the next day before pressure washing it. I figured I was doing near 80 when I hit it, and it hit on the forward extended bumper on the old Mack so the truck didn't feel a thing.

The highways up that way are always stained with red patches from just such hits in the fall. I'm sure I wasn't the first nor last to hit a deer like that up that way.

These days I've got a doe that hangs around the yard here and has for years, its a residential area with small yards not far off a highway, I'm not sure where she goes during the day, there's no woods nearby.

I couldn't picture hitting one on a bicycle, however a buddy hit one on an ATV down in NJ years ago, he spent time in the hospital with a neck injury from it.

bikenut2011
02-18-11, 02:56 AM
Still as clueless as ever when it comes to roads and traffic. and I came upon a doe standing in the middle of the street, totally oblivious to my approach. I rang my bell to warn her, all four hooves went in different directions and she went down in a heap, leapt up and trotted off, no harm done.

SP
Bend, OR

Sounds like the average HUMAN walking on our local BIKE trail!! :rolleyes:

andy

Velognome
02-18-11, 06:46 AM
^Yeah, well. I was walking across the golf course behind my and I saw this big buck come bounding out of there and dang if he didn't run straight at me. He passed within 20 feet of me,

Sorry rhm, only a drive by not a charge:(