Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - OK Clydes and Athenas, what HRM?

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zjrog
02-22-11, 10:44 PM
I've never been obsessed with numbers before, but for some reason I am this year. I want one of those fancy pants do everything Garmin units... But, not this year. I would like something I can download to the computer, but that is not practical in my price range. Besides, I don't want something on the bike worth more than the bike! Would prefer to keep it under $100.

So what do you folks use?

No I don't know why I'm so obsessed with data... I use a USB stick in the Life Fitness bikes, treadmill and elliptical. Well, once so far. But it intrigues me. I have a Garmin GPS that I can track speed, distance and elevation. The Garmin Connect website is a pretty neat tool.


freighttraininguphill
02-22-11, 11:38 PM
It's definitely not under $100, but I use a Garmin Edge 500 with the premium HR strap. My favorite features are the percent grade and elevation readings, and of course being able to upload the ride to Garmin Connect. It's also nice to be able to use it on any bike without a sensor or wires.

sstorkel
02-23-11, 12:06 AM
Before I bought my Garmin Edge 705, I was using an old Polar A5 HRM. The closest current model is probably the Polar FT4. The problem with my A5 is that it's nearly impossible to use without the manual. I can start and stop it and maybe figure out how to cycle between screens. Everything else needs so many key presses that I have to pull out the manual.

Still if you're willing to spend $100, I'd recommend searching eBay for a Garmin Edge 305. Prices seem to start around $90 w/o HR, $120 w/HR...


Agave
02-23-11, 10:29 AM
Rob a liquor store and buy a Power Tap wheel and do it right....

Spudd
02-23-11, 10:35 AM
I just bought myself the Garmin Forerunner 305. It's slightly over $100 but you can get used ones for under $100. It combines the speed/distance tracking of the Garmin with a heart rate monitor in the same unit. It's watch-style, but I just strap the watch to my handlebars (over a light mount to make the "wrist" bigger) and it works fine. And you can download the data to your PC.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CSWCQA?ie=UTF8&tag=spuddca-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B000CSWCQA

CliftonGK1
02-23-11, 11:16 AM
I have a Polar F4, and I got it for about $90. It's a very basic model: simple wristwatch receiver and T31 non-coded transmitter strap. You can set a single target HR zone for workouts, record individual workout data for calories burned/minutes in zone, it will tally totals for multiple workouts, etc. Your input parameters are the basic age/ht/wt. There's no DL to computer or anything fancy.

Drew Eckhardt
02-23-11, 01:59 PM
So what do you folks use?


Garmin Edge 500 + Powertap branded heart rate + GSC 10 speed/cadence + Powertap hub. Upgraded from a Polar CS 200CAD. Power works better for pacing since its immediate instead of lagging up to a minute and doesn't drift with dehydration or aerobic decoupling. Power also works on short/anaerobic intervals.

I'd second the recommendation for a used Garmin of some sort - you really want the download capability. You can see whether you're slacking in the middle of long intervals or starting too hard, approximate lactate threshold off a histogram from a hard ride (without thousands of quality miles in your legs your LTHR will still be increasing and you want to adjust your zones upward to match), manage training stress via TRIMP points (Golden Cheetah is free, runs on Windows/Linux/Mac, and works great), etc.

I don't recommend the Polar apart from the strap with conductive electrodes although the package without cadence is in your price range . You get a lot more with computer downloads that include second-by-second samples, the Polar will end your ride if you accidentally hit the stop button twice, and both the 5Khz EM heart rate monitor and wireless speed/cadence sensors glitch from power lines/traffic lights/etc.

Mr. Beanz
02-23-11, 02:09 PM
I've seen some watch types at Best Buy for about $50 (and up). From what I've seen, they all use a chest strap. Are there models without? I don't think I'd be comfy with a chest strap.

Drew Eckhardt
02-23-11, 02:16 PM
I've seen some watch types at Best Buy for about $50 (and up). From what I've seen, they all use a chest strap. Are there models without? I don't think I'd be comfy with a chest strap.

Yes but some (many? most? all? I don't know) only take a reading when you put your index and middle fingers on the watch. When you're working hard enough that you can't do much more than grunt and are four beats shy of your maximum heart rate you're not going to do that.

Polar's Wearlink strap with conductive fabric electrodes is pretty good for comfort apart from picking up more sweat than your jersey. The standard straps aren't too bad.

Mr. Beanz
02-23-11, 02:23 PM
Yes but some (many? most? all? I don't know) only take a reading when you put your index and middle fingers on the watch. When you're working hard enough that you can't do much more than grunt and are four beats shy of your maximum heart rate you're not going to do that.

Really? I thought maybe they took a reading from the back of the watch (senror plate maybe). Sounds like a hassle.

fsc
02-23-11, 02:30 PM
I just bought myself the Garmin Forerunner 305. It's slightly over $100 but you can get used ones for under $100. It combines the speed/distance tracking of the Garmin with a heart rate monitor in the same unit. It's watch-style, but I just strap the watch to my handlebars (over a light mount to make the "wrist" bigger) and it works fine. And you can download the data to your PC.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CSWCQA?ie=UTF8&tag=spuddca-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B000CSWCQA

Curse you!!! You made me buy it!!!

Now how to hide the new gizmo from the SO? She's getting tired of me buying myself all sorts of cool things... perhaps spending more money on some flowers will cover my spending money on myself?

MrClyde
02-23-11, 02:46 PM
I use a Garmin Edge 305. Gives HR, cadence, speed, elevation, grade, distance, time, laps, you can program intervals for training, download to your computer or the Garmin Connect website, does a virtual partner to race against your previous rides, etc. Great unit, now I'm saving up for a 500 or 805 & Quarq.

sstorkel
02-23-11, 04:58 PM
Rob a liquor store and buy a Power Tap wheel and do it right....

That's what I did! In retrospect, I probably should have robbed a second liquor store and bought a Quarq power meter... I love the PowerTap, but I'd be happier if I had more freedom with wheels and tires.

cyclist2000
02-23-11, 05:07 PM
I've seen some watch types at Best Buy for about $50 (and up). From what I've seen, they all use a chest strap. Are there models without? I don't think I'd be comfy with a chest strap.

I have a Suunto t6c watch with a wireless chest strap. This is the most comfortable HRM that I have ever worn. I hardly even feel it. I did purchase the extra large strap separately.

ScottStr
02-23-11, 05:14 PM
I use the Sigma BC 1706HR Bike computer. No download, no cadence, not a lot of other extras, but a bike computer with HR for less than $60 online. It does occasionally drop signals, but it's accurate most of the time.

TechKnowGN
02-23-11, 05:42 PM
I second the 305, unless you're looking to get into triathlon. Then in the long run you may want a higher level device.

Agave
02-23-11, 06:50 PM
That's what I did! In retrospect, I probably should have robbed a second liquor store and bought a Quarq power meter... I love the PowerTap, but I'd be happier if I had more freedom with wheels and tires.

1+ Power is power. HR isn't.

CliftonGK1
02-23-11, 07:54 PM
1+ Power is power. HR isn't.

If you're training for a pro team, then power is the way to go. There's no doubt about what your work level is when the PT hub tells you how many Watts you're outputting.
When you're looking to get in shape and your budget is ~$100, a power meter is like buying a Bugatti Veyron because you need a car to get to/from the grocery.

cohophysh
02-23-11, 07:54 PM
I have a polar F6 with the heartstrap...not a big issue mr b. Also, if you own an Iphone you can probably get a cycling app with it that includes a hrm. You would need to get a blue tooth hrm chest strap.

magohn
02-23-11, 07:59 PM
My Garmin 705 appears to work great. I dont even feel the chest strap as its nestled between the rolls of fat - :)

zjrog
02-23-11, 08:17 PM
Thanks. I appreciate the info. I like the Forerunner 305. Might have to snag that after tax season. I have an older Cateye computer that does speed and cadence, expensive when I bought it 20 years ago. Really surprised the bargain computers don't have cadence these days. I will put the Cateye on my MTB for now. I have a Sigma computer for speed that I had put on the Schwinn hybrid years ago. And the Cannondale has a SPecialized comp for speed on the FRONT wheel (which doesn't help me no matter what on the trainer!)...

Mr. Beanz
02-23-11, 08:59 PM
I have a Suunto t6c watch with a wireless chest strap. This is the most comfortable HRM that I have ever worn. I hardly even feel it. I did purchase the extra large strap separately.



Thanks!:thumb:

sjvcycler
02-23-11, 10:24 PM
ebay has great deals on edge 500 deals.

zjrog
02-23-11, 10:38 PM
I don't do Ebay anymore. Got burned one time too many.

JohnA42
02-24-11, 12:03 AM
+1 on the Garmin 305. You can also get a quick-release kit and bike mount for it. I've got the mounts on all my bikes, and the cadence sensor on my road bike.

Seve
02-24-11, 12:10 AM
It's watch-style, but I just strap the watch to my handlebars (over a light mount to make the "wrist" bigger) and it works fine. And you can download the data to your PC.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CSWCQA?ie=UTF8&tag=spuddca-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B000CSWCQA
Just a note; you can get a bike mount if you ever need to.
http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442619988&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302888907

sstorkel
02-24-11, 01:48 AM
+1 on the Garmin 305. You can also get a quick-release kit and bike mount for it. I've got the mounts on all my bikes, and the cadence sensor on my road bike.

If you watch eBay you can find the cadence sensor and mounts pretty cheap. I now have mounts on all my bikes and cadence sensors on every bike where they'll work.

novasystem
04-10-11, 10:01 PM
That's what I did! In retrospect, I probably should have robbed a second liquor store and bought a Quarq power meter... I love the PowerTap, but I'd be happier if I had more freedom with wheels and tires.

^^^ THIS! ^^^

I've had powertap for 2 years now, and this year I got the lust for some new wheels

(my PT wheel got banged out of shape by a pothole. Alas, it cannot be trued, and i'm looking at a $250 relacing to a new rim.)

I wish I wasn't tied to the PT wheels...and the expense.

zjrog
04-11-11, 12:04 PM
I tried a watch type HRM, the price was right... Well, first problem was that it didn't fit. My wrist was too big. Somehow, I think it was designed for 10 year old girls. Second, even sitting in my chair at home, I could get the thing to give a reliably consistant reading. So, how am I going to get it to read on the fly? Took it back, got my money back... And am saving for a Garmin of some sort. Or that Suunto, there MIGHT be a distributor local to me so I can check it out...

myrridin
04-11-11, 12:35 PM
I already owned a Garmin Oregon 350 GPS unit for hiking and geocaching... When I purchased my first bike I got the cadence/speed sensor and the heart rate monitor...

While the GPS unit isn't bike specific, it did work with the additional sensors, though the Garmin Connect uploader didn't show any history for those sensors during the ride. Later I discovered that if I did a manual upload to Garmin Connect rather than using their "upload application" it did have the heart rate and cadence information... So essentially it seems like I get all of the benefits of the Garmin 705/800 for the price of a couple of sensors...

zjrog
04-11-11, 04:45 PM
Too bad my Gamin GPSmap 60CSx doesn't have all that extra funcionality... Oh well...

Seattle Forrest
04-11-11, 05:22 PM
I've seen some watch types at Best Buy for about $50 (and up). From what I've seen, they all use a chest strap. Are there models without? I don't think I'd be comfy with a chest strap.

I sweat a bit more with the chest strap on, but otherwise I tend to forget it's there after a while.

billydonn
04-11-11, 08:50 PM
Used Polar CS-100 (about $100) for over a year with fine results. Have gone Garmin (Edge500) now though. Riding w/o HR is, to me, like driving with no tachometer....

Unlike Beanz, I am so manly and robust that a little elastic band around my chest doesn't bother me at all! :D

grueling
04-12-11, 10:20 AM
I love my garmin edge 305. As previously mentioned, there are some deals out there close to your price range, since Garmin has replaced that model. I dont need it, but its a fun toy. I find the numbers inspirational after I download them.

notorious_p
04-12-11, 12:15 PM
What JohnA42 said. The Garmin Forerunner 305 is on Amazon now for $130. I use it as the computer for all my bikes, as I only need the bike mount kit (which is ~ $14?), or can wear as a wristwatch if you don't want to deal with the mount. It's wireless and you doesn't care about tire size, etc., because it is all done through GPS. I also love the ability to upload my routes to the Garmin Connect site and share it with my fellow riders. The only downside is my battery runs low after about 12 to 15 hours, so for multi-day touring you will need to find a way to charge it on the go.