Training & Nutrition - Water bottle sizes
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10-23-04, 07:44 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows of a large water bottle, and who might make it. I always run out of water pretty quickly when I am on longer rides, and would love to find one that holds at least a liter. I really don't want to get a camelbac, but will probably cave and use one during the winter as I don't want to be sucking on ice from a frozen bottle, but bigger bottles wouldn't freeze as quickly either.
Thanks for any help in advance!
10-23-04, 08:13 PM
I bought the zefel magnum-33 ounces and a nice top with a gasket and a nice wide mouth.
10-24-04, 01:05 AM
a litre!!!! I am also looking for a larger bottle but it wouldn't fit in my holder i dont think. I have a 750ml bottle and i find i drink most of it in the 1/5 of my ride. Then i re-fill and that lasts me for the rest of my ride. I later found out this is because i wan't properly hydrated to start with (night before). So i know drink lots of water a couple of days before a ride and i'm right.
But i am still looking out for a larger bottle, i do have a fitting for two bottels if i needed though.
10-24-04, 06:55 AM
What Blue Neon said about hydrating before a ride. In my climate, I make a personal point of drinking 5-10 litres of fluids per day, often exceeding 10 if it's really hot (as it is right now). I do this whether I'm riding or not, meaning that I can afford a little depletion on the longer rides (for me that means 180km+).
On the rides I carry 2x750ml water bottles with me, but I also take note of places I might be able to refill, and carry some money to buy bottled water should the need arise -- as it did on a ride in early 2003 at the height of a drought, when many of my usual refill sources had run dry.
10-24-04, 08:40 AM
I definitely stay hydrated prior to a ride. I tend to drink all day no matter if I am riding or not. I keep two bottles on my bike, one is a 32 ounce, and the other is a 22 ounce bottle. The 32 ounce one isn't really a bike bottle, and it is kind of hard to drink from while riding. I am thinking of maybe getting another cage to stick somewhere on my bike, but would rather just find larger bottles that don't have to be refilled. I went on a 50 mile ride yesterday, and drank quite a bit before hand, and went through both bottles twice while out riding, and still came home thirsty. Grrr....
Try the profile aqua rack. Holds 2 additional bottles and attaches to the seat post. Low wind resistance. I pack 4 33oz Zefal mag bottles. This seems to be enough hydration for me on my 50 mile rides.
11-04-04, 07:43 PM
11-05-04, 01:59 AM
You can only wear one bag on your back. And if you are wearing a camel back, there is no place to put other stuff. My backpack is full of tools, bike chain, suitable clothing, hat, food ect. I really use up most of it up.
I got hold of some 1-litre bottles made by SIS (Science in Sport), which fit standard cages, and very useful they are too. But they're the only ones I've seen, and I don't know if you can get them outside the UK.
Ive been using a CamelBak HAWG (100oz) for my rides. I do however end up drinking about 2/3 of it every ride. If you would like to haul a lot of stuff around with you (like me) its worth it. I keep first aid, food, and a good repair (and water...dugh) kit in my camelbak for when Im up on the mountain. Pretty much carry everything for myself and a friend (minus water).
My friend has the MULE and it just seems a little small for what I want to carry for different seasons. Dont think there is anything between the MULE and the HAWG. The HAWG even has room for a second reservoir in another pocket. The HAWG would be too big for me if it didnt sinch down so well.. Id rather be carrying too much stuff than too little.
In my camelbak theres still ice in my water the next morning (aka. its cold aka. the insulation does its job well)! During rides the water in the tube gets warm but I suck that out and spit it on the ground or blow it back in the camelbak and get some cold water.
Before I got my CamelBak I was just wearing a regular backpack with a few waterbottles tossed in. My back got quite warm while riding. I barely notice my camelbak is even there! Its also nice to have cool water to poor on yourself after a hard ride.
I hate cleaning my CamelBak since I use it so often. I dont really clean it...just empty it and let it dry. I was shoving paper towles in it before but today I picked up the drier insert. Hopefuly that will relieve my only negative on my CamelBak. Ive already had some funk grow in the reservoir once, which requires actual cleaning, so I know its important to let it dry.
Also Ive looked at a few other brands and CamelBak definately feels the most rugged out of the ones Ive looked at. I was in walmart after I got my CamelBak and saw they were selling hydration systems for about $20-30. Dont even look at them! They feel like they would collapse from the weight of a full reservior.
My new bike has 2 bottle mounts (previous didnt have any mounts) so today I got 2 28oz bottles + cages for about $5 per bottle + cage combo at Dicks Sporting Goods. I found the 28oz bottle wont even get close to fitting in the cage under my seat and barely fits on the other. Gonna try and trade my 28oz bottle to a friend for his smaller one. Doubt he will mind since thats the only water he has on rides. Anyways, today I noticed I drink a whole lot more when using my camelbak...which is good... Another thing I noticed that I dislike about bottles is my water doesnt stay cold for long at all.
I wouldnt think water in a bottle would freeze as long as you were moving. Try not filling them up all the way. Ever notice how running streams dont freeze? You know...as long is it isnt 982734 degrees below zero...
11-05-04, 03:55 AM
My bottle, my bag.
(quality, compressed 80%) :eek:
11-05-04, 08:51 AM
Dont think there is anything between the MULE and the HAWG.
Camelbak Blowfish. Expandable. Cargo capacity is about the same as the MULE when un-expanded, and close to the HAWG when expanded.
I rarely use it on the road... more for mountain biking, snow shoeing and cross country skiing. On road rides long enough to need it I find it gives me really sore shoulders, and just isn't worth the hassle.
Like Chris L, I drink one heckuva lot of water on a daily basis, so two water bottles are plenty. I use 2 x 24oz Polar water bottles pretty much year round on the roadie. Keeps the liquids cooler in the summer for longer, and prevents freezing for a lot longer on winter rides too (iovnow... water in a bottle will definitely freeze in cold climates such as Vermont, no matter how you fill it and how fast you're moving). For a longer ride I'll often throw one or two smaller bottles (21oz) in my jersey pockets, or just carry a couple of extra dollars to buy more at a gas station or convenience store.
11-05-04, 09:29 AM
my friend has the blowfish and he loves it. He can zip it up and just carry his water in it with a few tools or he can expand it and throw another shirt in there for when he gets to his destination!
11-05-04, 10:16 AM
I carry a chain tool, a Ti multy-tool, a spoke wrench, a set of tire levers, a break wrench and set of allens. Also a spar tube and patch kit, extra break and shift cables. This all fits in a courda back that is 3”x 6”x 2”.
My first-aid pack is 5”x 4”x 7” and includes salt for making saline, a complete suture kit and mylar space blanket as well as the request bandage materials and a water filter.
All this and my cell and maps fits into my CB.
You don’t need to take an extra chain just a chain tool.
11-07-04, 06:00 PM
Thanks for all the tips. I think I will end up getting a Camelbak pretty soon. The water in my bottles is getting so cold on my rides in that it hurts going down. I generally don't wear a backpack as I hate feeling constricted when I ride. (also, don't exactly like the sweating that goes on under them) Can I wear the smaller ones under my jacket to keep the water warm? What about under my shirt to keep it really warm? Is that possible, or just too wierd? I just want lots of warm water available, and don't really care all that much about looks. If I end up looking like a camel with a hump back under my jacket, then so be it. :D
Lots of people wear camelbaks under their jackets. Pick a size and find one you like.
11-09-04, 11:38 AM
I rode with mine yesterday.....I think under my jacket is going to be preferable, that water gets hella cold even if it's only 40 outside.
you can clean the camelback bladders with efferdent denture cleaner tablets
07-05-07, 11:02 PM
It's bad mojo to post in old threads.
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