Advocacy & Safety - NYC Crackdown

While reading about some of the absurd tickets given out in NYC I came across an interesting video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aLY03eo0uxo

The person holding the camera is insinuating that all the police cars are there for the one cyclist biking on the sidewalk, but knowing how opportunistic NYC police are, I wouldn't doubt that they were there for something else and she blatantly rode right by them. It would explain why the issuing of her summons is secondary.

In other words, you can't trust what is shown to you since it doesn't capture the entire event. She is also not arguing that she was on the sidewalk or whether she deserves the ticket which she does.

Don't ride on the sidewalk and you won't get a ticket. I don't feel sorry for this lady.

OMG what a crime!!!!! I assume all the drug dealer and other criminals have been delt with so this was the most serious crime left to quash. BTW that lady doesnt look like the type of person that would ride 25mph on the sidewalk endangering pedestrians.

Wow, major crime spree. :rolleyes:

While indeed some of the police cars may be in the area for some other reason (donut shop nearby?) it appears that two cars have lights on and are attending to something that may be related to the cyclist.

AC § 19-176 (http://www.google.com/search?q=AC+%C2%A7+19-176)

Wow, major crime spree. :rolleyes:

While indeed some of the police cars may be in the area for some other reason (donut shop nearby?) it appears that two cars have lights on and are attending to something that may be related to the cyclist.


If you look at traffic and the parked cars, you will notice that the police cars are pointed in the other direction. Police cars in general are not allowed to drive the wrong way down a street like that unless there was an emergency. They are all there for another reason and she was caught breaking the law by an opportunistic officer. They are taking a long time because there was most likely a crime and she is secondary to what is going on. Everyone needs to stop making an issue where there is none.

The person holding the camera is insinuating that all the police cars are there for the one cyclist biking on the sidewalk, but knowing how opportunistic NYC police are, I wouldn't doubt that they were there for something else and she blatantly rode right by them. It would explain why the issuing of her summons is secondary.

In other words, you can't trust what is shown to you since it doesn't capture the entire event. She is also not arguing that she was on the sidewalk or whether she deserves the ticket which she does.


If you look at traffic and the parked cars, you will notice that the police cars are pointed in the other direction. Police cars in general are not allowed to drive the wrong way down a street like that unless there was an emergency. They are all there for another reason and she was caught breaking the law by an opportunistic officer. They are taking a long time because there was most likely a crime and she is secondary to what is going on. Everyone needs to stop making an issue where there is none.

Yes, we're only shown a little over a minute of what happened. But if as y'all are suggesting that the police had been called to scene for something else and just "happened" to have caught her. Then they are allowing her to distract them from their reason for being there and as such they should have let her go without so much as a warning.

you can't trust what is shown to you since it doesn't capture the entire event.

Assumptions, right?


They are all there for another reason and she was caught breaking the law by an opportunistic officer. They are taking a long time because there was most likely a crime and she is secondary to what is going on. Everyone needs to stop making an issue where there is none.


you can't trust what is shown to you since it doesn't capture the entire event.

Yes, we're only shown a little over a minute of what happened. But if as y'all are suggesting that the police had been called to scene for something else and just "happened" to have caught her. Then they are allowing her to distract them from their reason for being there and as such they should have let her go without so much as a warning.

EXACTAMOUNDO!

Wonder if there were any speeding motorists about... or perhaps sidewalk spitting pedestrians?

Yes, we're only shown a little over a minute of what happened. But if as y'all are suggesting that the police had been called to scene for something else and just "happened" to have caught her. Then they are allowing her to distract them from their reason for being there and as such they should have let her go without so much as a warning.

And if a dozen cop cars show up in response to a burglary, you're telling me that they don't have to stick around until a senior officer is on the scene? All I'm saying is you should use your own eyes and formulate your own opinions and not automatically believe what the cameraman is trying to make you believe.

As far as her being a distraction, the cops most likely have nothing to do until they are told they can leave the scene. She just happened to break the law in front of them which made it easy which is exactly what I said. As far as I'm concerned, she was dumb for doing that in front of them deserves the ticket.

EXACTAMOUNDO!

Wonder if there were any speeding motorists about... or perhaps sidewalk spitting pedestrians?

I'm not sure how many fatalities there are in NYC there are from people spitting on sidewalks, but the "no riding on the sidewalk" law was implemented because there have been people killed here in bicycle collisions while walking on the sidewalk.

I'm not sure how many fatalities there are in NYC there are from people spitting on sidewalks, but the "no riding on the sidewalk" law was implemented because there have been people killed here in bicycle collisions while walking on the sidewalk.

And compared to motorists mowing down peds... yeah, a regular crime wave those cyclists are.

Nobody is arguing whether the cops have better things to do. The biker even acknowledge her transgression. The cameraman is insinuating that all the cops are there to give her a ticket and a careful look at the video basically does not support that.

So what's you point? If you want to bash the cops, go right ahead! I could give tow SH*TS. I'm merely pointing out the fact it was a great video edit job in showing people only what they want you to see and not the entire story here.

Nobody is arguing whether the cops have better things to do. The biker even acknowledge her transgression. The cameraman is insinuating that all the cops are there to give her a ticket and a careful look at the video basically does not support that.

So what's you point? If you want to bash the cops, go right ahead! I could give tow SH*TS. I'm merely pointing out the fact it was a great video edit job in showing people only what they want you to see and not the entire story here.

So why is it taking the cop so long to write a simple ticket?

I agree that the whole story isn't being presented. But even the little bit that is true is a bit over the top. It's not as if she is some sidewalk crashing messenger either. The fact is the cops apparently do have better things to do, and probably should just give her a warning and move on to those more important things.

And apparently you do give "tow SH*TS" as you bothered to respond.

So why is it taking the cop so long to write a simple ticket?



It's possible that she did/said something that p*ssed them off. So they are making her cool her heals. LEO's are human after all. Of course, that, like all the other theories so far, is nothing more than conjecture. Just one possible reason for the delay.

The only thing I know for certain from the video is that she was riding on the sidewalk and (at least) one LEO called her on it.

See, you ALL missed it; the first cop, using his special X-Ray Specs, saw a tiny implant in the seam of her coat, which recorded the entire life history, secret agenda, and exact location of Bin Laden. They were just downplaying the earth-shattering import of this discovery.

It's pretty hard to believe the number of people who think that cops should overlook anything that's not as bad as the worst thing that's going on. Where the heck would that lead? Nothing short of murder being addressed?

It's pretty hard to believe the number of people who think that cops should overlook anything that's not as bad as the worst thing that's going on. Where the heck would that lead? Nothing short of murder being addressed?
OH sure. And while they're wasting their time with a one-off murderer the mass-murderers will all go free.

and where in the hierarchy of crimes does a sidewalk cyclist come in?

:rolleyes:

I couldn't live in NYC.

It's pretty hard to believe the number of people who think that cops should overlook anything that's not as bad as the worst thing that's going on. Where the heck would that lead? Nothing short of murder being addressed?

The problem with your "logic" is that if there are a limited number of officers at a particular crime scene. That allowing themselves to be distracted by a lessor offense can place the primary investigation in jeopardy. And a good defense attorney will be able to argue that by allowing themselves to be distracted by the lessor offense that they either left evidence unattended or overlooked evidence. And use that to raise reasonable doubt as to whether or not their client is the true suspect in the case.

Now then as others have said given that the law in NYC says that one shall not ride their bike on the sidewalk, yes the gal in the video was wrong to do so. And a better way for the officers on the scene to handle it was to "yell" at her to get off of the sidewalk.

For the record...before the video is playing for eight seconds there are 6 police officers within "spittin" distance of the lady on the bike. If they were investigating another crime they better get a movin...hmmmm. Come on they are just being asshats.

I friend of mine offers this as a point:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHD9oK8WeaQ&NR=1

I friend of mine offers this as a point:

Same event:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/txup/4202803692/in/set-72157623040872528/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/txup/4203627534/in/set-72157623040872528/

By my count, police vehicles outnumbered bicycles.

You can't win with the NYPD. They probably would have given her a ticket for obstructing police business if she rode past them on the street. That's if they were there investigating a crime.

You can't win with the NYPD. They probably would have given her a ticket for obstructing police business if she rode past them on the street. That's if they were there investigating a crime.

Yeah they were "Investigating" the crime of how much a donut and cup of coffee cost in NYC...

All too true that you cant win with the Police. The only way to come out unscathed is to be off their radar. I have several friends who are ex-police officers and from what they say, if they stop you, you will get a ticket. You are always breaking some law, and if you weren't, they can claim you were. If you fight the ticket, then you are out the court fees no matter what and the city still wins

the NYPD might of been trying to figure out how to write a ticket for somone riding on the sidewalk (maybe training other officers, lol), since I've never seen cops do this before. But tbh I'm glad they're enforcing what should be common sense... get off the sidewalk lady! lol

there seems to be in Brooklyn only about 15-20% of the riders following the rules of the road as far as I can see and there have been many occasions that they've put me in danger of a collision. The rest are running lights at low to fast speeds, riding the wrong way down streets, etc. I even saw a lady riding with two 3 year olds on the seat behind her and her putting her arm behind to keep them from falling off - yikes! But at least they had helmets.