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jrrbongo
04-13-11, 10:47 AM
is this a japanese frame and fork or italian" s/n 8710739 BREV CAMPAGNOLO DROP OUTS FRAME AND FORK help help help
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb337/jag24cruiser/IMAG1182.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb337/jag24cruiser/IMAG1184.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb337/jag24cruiser/IMAG1185.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb337/jag24cruiser/IMAG1186.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb337/jag24cruiser/IMAG1187.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb337/jag24cruiser/IMAG1188.jpg
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb337/jag24cruiser/IMAG1189.jpg

oldbobcat
04-13-11, 05:14 PM
The domed fork and stay ends indicate not Italian, but with what I see it could be made in UK or North America. What is the width and threading of the bottom bracket shell?
jrrbongo
04-13-11, 06:20 PM
It has shimano 600 cranks. Looks like european bottom bracket

jrrbongo
04-13-11, 06:24 PM
This bike has shimano 600 grupo. Cinelli stem and bars ans it had a cinelli chain stays decals. I dont have any idea but both frame and fork drop outs are campagnolo
oldbobcat
04-13-11, 09:19 PM
Lots of US, UK, Canadian, and Japanese builders used Campagnolo dropouts and Cinelli lugs and fork crowns. How wide is the bottom bracket shell--68mm or 70mm?
jrrbongo
04-13-11, 10:48 PM
well i check and is 2 5/8" inches i guess multiply by 2.54= 68mm
oldbobcat
04-14-11, 09:27 AM
Not Italian. You can confirm this by removing the cranks and bottom bracket. The right hand cup on British-threaded (non-Italian) bikes is reverse-threaded.