Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - How to fix toe clip touching front wheel ISSUE?

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devalious
04-13-11, 04:59 PM
Information about toe overlap.


youngandcurious
04-13-11, 05:02 PM
Dual 650cs brah

caloso
04-13-11, 05:03 PM
Ride faster.


CaptainCool
04-13-11, 05:04 PM
search "toe overlap" and then realize you have to deal with it.

Scrodzilla
04-13-11, 05:06 PM
Stop looking at your bike and ride the damn thing.

devalious
04-13-11, 05:07 PM
Stop looking at your bike and ride the damn thing.

I was riding the Concept for the first time today and I had a trouble turning at some point.

But I didnt have this problem with my previous bikes. I can deal with it though. Hopefully my front tubular tires dont explode from the toeclips......

yummygooey
04-13-11, 05:17 PM
The more you ride it, the more you'll become used to the toe overlap. It happens. If it's really that big of a problem, then the Pista Concept isn't the right bike for you.

TejanoTrackie
04-13-11, 05:18 PM
I was riding the Concept for the first time today and I had a trouble turning at some point.

But I didnt have this problem with my previous bikes. I can deal with it though. Hopefully my front tubular tires dont explode from the toeclips......

Dude, your previous bikes were not real track bikes, so they had relaxed geometry to provide toe clearance for casual riders. This is a real serious honest to goodness track bike which has quick handling at the expense of toe overlap. It also has no provision for a front brake and those lightweight tubulars won't last very long if you skid a lot. So, you'd better figure things out pretty quickly before you end up on your ass, or better yet get rid of it and get something more suitable to your needs and abilities.

Papajohn40
04-13-11, 05:18 PM
Get shorter crank. :p

Scrodzilla
04-13-11, 05:24 PM
Dude, your previous bikes were not real track bikes, so they had relaxed geometry to provide toe clearance for casual riders. This is a real serious honest to goodness track bike which has quick handling at the expense of toe overlap. It also has no provision for a front brake and those lightweight tubulars won't last very long if you skid a lot. So, you'd better figure things out pretty quickly before you end up on your ass, or better yet get rid of it and get something more suitable to your needs and abilities.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQT21Tb1EtxLhX1dZ-GKNmI9-PVuUvNsMmlKxq6AIQnPi3gPDe0Hw&t=1

I Have a Bike
04-13-11, 05:25 PM
If you actually had an issue with this while out riding, then you are riding way too slow to be on a concept and probably just look like a jackass.

devalious
04-13-11, 05:26 PM
The rear doesn't have tubulars FYI.

Thanks for the information. =)

Leukybear
04-13-11, 05:27 PM
Sell the concept to me and buy another bike that doesn't have that problem.
We can discuss terms via private messages.

calv
04-13-11, 06:16 PM
If you actually had an issue with this while out riding, then you are riding way too slow to be on a concept and probably just look like a jackass.

uymm.. he's probably riding to slow on any bike. in that case. don't see why being on a concept matters.

FastJake
04-13-11, 06:20 PM
Hopefully my front tubular tires dont explode from the toeclips......


The rear doesn't have tubulars

Does your Concept have four wheels or something?

Scrodzilla
04-13-11, 06:27 PM
remove thread

It's far too late. This will not save you.

FastJake
04-13-11, 06:30 PM
It's far too late. This will not save you.

I agree. This thread is too fun to kill off.

frantik
04-13-11, 06:33 PM
:popcorn

I Have a Bike
04-13-11, 06:35 PM
uymm.. he's probably riding to slow on any bike. in that case. don't see why being on a concept matters.

Its a bike with tight clearance meant to be used on a track. If he's on a frame designed for street use, he doesn't have that problem. I'm just saying he's on a frame that clearly isn't right for him, because if it was, he wouldn't be making this thread.

Scrodzilla
04-13-11, 06:36 PM
I'm no doctor but my prognosis is that you're screwed.

Dauphine
04-13-11, 06:37 PM
It it hits the toe clip, just take the toe clips off! Right? No?

TejanoTrackie
04-13-11, 06:40 PM
There's always the option of surgery.

caloso
04-13-11, 06:43 PM
Dude, your previous bikes were not real track bikes, so they had relaxed geometry to provide toe clearance for casual riders. This is a real serious honest to goodness track bike which has quick handling at the expense of toe overlap. It also has no provision for a front brake and those lightweight tubulars won't last very long if you skid a lot. So, you'd better figure things out pretty quickly before you end up on your ass, or better yet get rid of it and get something more suitable to your needs and abilities.

FWIW, my crit bike has the same type of geometry and the only time it's ever been an issue is trackstanding at a light.

LupinIII
04-13-11, 06:45 PM
only bike i have that has toe overlap is my road bike...

hairnet
04-13-11, 06:49 PM
The worst was when I rode a 43cm. Man, small bikes suck

Dauphine
04-13-11, 06:51 PM
Actually, I was just reading on SheldonBrown last night about converting bikes to 650B rather than C wheels, but more for the purpose of allowing better clearance for fenders. He has a picture of his personal IRO Jamie Roy with 650b wheels on it. Looked nice. Velo Orange only sells 650 size wheels for their bike kits as well.

calv
04-13-11, 07:15 PM
There's always the option of surgery.

You can always keep the pinky toes!

carleton
04-13-11, 07:58 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_eosGkndaIFM/SUvADAqtnwI/AAAAAAAAGpc/qjQE6wUIXaQ/s400/CollinsHatchet_3_14.jpg

http://www.equidblog.com/uploads/image/Bare_feet.JPG

xavier853
04-13-11, 08:02 PM
This might have been mentioned, but I decided to ride Medium sized clips, and am able to avoid toe overlap all together. Although, I do have quite a bit of rake on my fork

molimo140
04-13-11, 10:40 PM
I ride a Kilo TT, which on the 60cm frame has pretty tight clearance of the front wheel. Surprisingly toe overlap has only ever once been a problem, and it was while riding really slowly trying to trackstand :lol:

Pedal strike on the other hand.. (and I have 165mm cranks!) Though I think it's cause I tip my feet forward sometimes.

Dauphine
04-14-11, 04:30 AM
Pedal strike on the other hand.. (and I have 165mm cranks!) Though I think it's cause I tip my feet forward sometimes.

Yeah, Pedalstrike. I am looking at a smaller IRO frame, and wondering myself what size cranks to get for it. IRO only offers down to 165mm, even on the Mark V HD. I am looking at these:
http://wheelandsprocket.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=7126

and wondering how small is too small. Keep in mind the Dauphine is a rather petite rider.

TejanoTrackie
04-14-11, 06:48 AM
Yeah, Pedalstrike. I am looking at a smaller IRO frame, and wondering myself what size cranks to get for it. IRO only offers down to 165mm, even on the Mark V HD.

I too have short legs and wish there were more more crank selections shorter than 165mm. There are differing theories on proper crank length, however, it is generally agreed that shorter people need cranks less than 165mm. This calculator http://www.machinehead-software.co.uk/bike/cranks/cyclist_crank_length_calculator.html will give you a good idea.

tristen
04-14-11, 07:52 AM
a photo(s) of the problem would be interesting.

Scrodzilla
04-14-11, 08:05 AM
There was one. The OP deleted it in shame.

tristen
04-14-11, 08:13 AM
Nooooo!

Dauphine
04-14-11, 08:34 AM
I too have short legs and wish there were more more crank selections shorter than 165mm. There are differing theories on proper crank length, however, it is generally agreed that shorter people need cranks less than 165mm. This calculator http://www.machinehead-software.co.uk/bike/cranks/cyclist_crank_length_calculator.html will give you a good idea.

The Bullet Crank I linked to has a 160mm, a 155, and a 150mm, but I don't want to overdo it and get a crank that is too small.

TejanoTrackie
04-14-11, 09:21 AM
The Bullet Crank I linked to has a 160mm, a 155, and a 150mm, but I don't want to overdo it and get a crank that is too small.

Did you try the crank length calculator that I linked? What length did it suggest?

Dauphine
04-14-11, 09:27 AM
oh. It was 157.075 :)

himespau
04-14-11, 09:31 AM
I ride a Kilo TT, which on the 60cm frame has pretty tight clearance of the front wheel. Surprisingly toe overlap has only ever once been a problem, and it was while riding really slowly trying to trackstand :lol:

Pedal strike on the other hand.. (and I have 165mm cranks!) Though I think it's cause I tip my feet forward sometimes.

Wait, you have a 60 cm frame and 165 mm cranks?

TejanoTrackie
04-14-11, 09:42 AM
oh. It was 157.075 :)

OK, so your inseam is 29", which means you're a typicially proportioned female with long legs and short torso. I'm just the opposite, male with short legs and long torso. I'd suggest no shorter than 155mm cranks for you, which means either the 160mm or 155mm cranks should work. If you like to pedal slowly in a bigger gear, then go with the longer cranks, which will give you a bit more torque.

Dauphine
04-14-11, 09:44 AM
Cool. Thanks for the info, I figured in my head originally that 150mm cranks would be freakishly short, to boot, I have a knee problem, so short crank, less torque is probably the way to go for me.

LesterOfPuppets
04-14-11, 09:47 AM
I had a mountain bike with overlap. Harsh realm.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2690/4543956927_a55c6d96a2_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lesterofpuppets/4543956927/)

devalious
04-14-11, 10:15 AM
I never knew a true track frames has the front wheel slightly touching the pedal. Everything is fine then, I can deal with it!

LesterOfPuppets
04-14-11, 10:37 AM
My Univega and Pinarello road bikes have had mild overlap also. Just be careful when you trackstand or decide you need to do a 3' diameter turn. Track stands on the Univega when I ran full fenders got kinda ugly sometimes.

misskaz
04-14-11, 06:56 PM
I'm tiny, so most bikes I've tried have toe overlap. In practice though, overlap has only ever been an issue for me when I'm going reeeeeeally slow like in traffic. Helped a little to go clipless rather than toe clips. Eventually you just get used to it. On a bike with a freewheel, it becomes habit to position your feet to prevent overlap at slow speeds.

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