Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - $600 track frame

i'm looking for a steel track frame around $600, preferably less, for fast city riding. i'm looking at masi speciale sprint, traitor ringleader, soma rush, cinelli gazzetta, or anything else. i would really like something that was lugged with a threadless 1 1/8 headset, if anyone knows of any frames. anyway, which frame is superior in this price range?

Leader 722 comes to mind as another option.

out of all of those, i have an older soma rush. it's a great steel frame. it sometimes feels a little a faster than some of my aluminum frames, but i attribute that to the absorbing power of steel in general. i keep it at my parent's place in florida, so i don't get to ride it too much. however, i do fantasize about them shipping it up to me here in NY. it is a really nice ride, to say the least...

Bikeisland has a couple of lugged steel options, but both are 1" (one is threaded, one is threadless):

http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_STOR20.cgi?Action=Details&ProdID=1876

http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_STOR20.cgi?Action=Details&ProdID=1799

The Leader 722TS is sweet as well, but it's not lugged.

i have a gazzetta and its a great frame, but you could probably do better for less. i'm working on a LeveL build that's coming in way lower than what i paid for my Cinelli.

Wabi Special

Wabi Special

Oh yea, good call... though the frameset is just a bit more than the OP's budget and he said "preferably less".

well you can't have your cake and eat it too....

I vote for the traitor.

My vote goes to the Gazzetta. It's my dream steel track frame.

Not lugged, but USA handmade quality torch welded. FBM Sword. My frame was around $600.


http://machinearts.com/bike/sword-4-3-11-full.jpg

My vote goes to the Gazzetta. It's my dream steel track frame.

said it before, say it again. My friend has one, for the price I'm not impressed. It's a nice quality steel frame, its fairly light (competes with my sputnik but it has a much nicer setup) and I don't think i'd pay a dime over 400 for the frame set, maybe 400.04.

http://store.citygrounds.com/store/product/6862/Cinelli-Gazzetta-Frameset-Grey/

600.00 ? geez toss in another hundred and get a njs?

http://store.citygrounds.com/store/product/929/Godzilla-Frameset-Blue/

800.00?

I personally think , wait for what you want used.

I am in the same boat as you.

But, stay away from something like this, looks completely thrashed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Makino-Evolution-NJS-Track-Bike-Frame-Fork-Fixed-/270739712240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f095828f0

600.00 ? geez toss in another hundred and get a njs?


That's another $200 brah, but thanks for playing.

I've seen NJS frames all day long going for 700 (used) .. just depends. BRAH, try again, thanks for palying

the one you linked to was $800, congrats to your lack of understanding. And what does NJS get you anyway? The answer is nothing, oh butz the street cred.....the street cred.

600.00 ? geez toss in another hundred and get a njs?

Why does njs matter so much around here? Its a bike. Ride it!

said it before, say it again. My friend has one, for the price I'm not impressed. It's a nice quality steel frame, its fairly light (competes with my sputnik but it has a much nicer setup) and I don't think i'd pay a dime over 400 for the frame set, maybe 400.04.

You're essentially paying for the legendary Cinelli name... which I'm more than willing to do haha

the one you linked to was $800, congrats to your lack of understanding. And what does NJS get you anyway? The answer is nothing, oh butz the street cred.....the street cred. think it was more like 500, re-read.

Street cred doesn't mean ****, honestly. for a well built, (not from taiwan/china) frame
lugged usually cost around 500 used, no matter the maker, it's just that njs, has a wide variety of frames on the market at any giving time, go ahead choose your color.
size could be an issue though.

I'm just saying, if you are about to burn 600 bucks, get something you might want to keep around for a while.

Milwaukee Cream City (not lugged, but $650, & tigged at Waterford factory)

Why does njs matter so much around here? Its a bike. Ride it!

This.

spicer $399

Fuji Track Pro $450 at city grounds.

yeah... i'm leaning towards the wabi special for sure. it looks awesome, but am thinking the 73 st will be slack coming from the 75.5 on a bianchi pista. what do you guys think, will 2 degrees matter? will i lose that track bike feel that i dearly love so much!!!???!!! NOOOOO!!! track bikes i love you!

Fuji Track Pro $450 at city grounds.

not lugged, not even steel. cool frameset though.

Fuji Track Pro $450 at city grounds.

Did you read what the OP was looking for? Why would he even consider a Fuji Track Pro?

*edit: bikessuck kinda beat me to it.

Did you read what the OP was looking for? Why would he even consider a Fuji Track Pro?
fast city riding bro! haha

think it was more like 500, re-read.

re-read, definately say $799 which is not more like $500. I would rather buy myself something new than take a chance with a second hand NJS frame anyday.

I would rather buy myself something new than give even the slightest crap about a second hand NJS frame anyday.

fixed.

fixed.

I really don't get the whole NJS thing, especially second hand ones. Although I would have bought your Maxway second hand if it wasn't for those pesky cable stops.

so nobody has any opinions on a frame with nicer tubing than the soma rush but not five times the price?

I already said it before, Wabi Special.

re-read, definately say $799 which is not more like $500. I would rather buy myself something new than take a chance with a second hand NJS frame anyday.

DUDE, LET ME CUT AND PASTE THE POST.
http://store.citygrounds.com/store/p...Frameset-Grey/ 600.00? + tax
geez toss in another hundred and get a njs?
http://store.citygrounds.com/store/p...Frameset-Blue/ = 800.00 +tax
Both more expensive than a used NJS.. if you take your time, and wait for a good deal, they are out there.

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/2347670489.html

here is another 600 OBO!

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/2352210731.html

so nobody has any opinions on a frame with nicer tubing than the soma rush but not five times the price?

Umm, i have seen a couple suggestions. Some are even steel frames. :) Get the soma. Did you miss the cream city suggestion?

DUDE, LET ME CUT AND PASTE THE POST.

what point are you trying to make by posting two links to frames for sale that the OP never asked about? I could post a link to a Porsche and suggest that he not buy that because he can get a used GTI and have just as much fun. Your ramblings make no sense. And just because you may want a beat up used NJS frame doesn't make that the OP's only option.

re-read, definately say $799 which is not more like $500. I would rather buy myself something new than take a chance with a second hand NJS frame anyday.
GTI. Porsche , wtf are u rambling about? thought we were talking about frames not analogies that make no sense.
You sir are a complete idiot, can you even read? "definately say $799" I NEVER "definately say" 799 for an njs frame. also the gazzetta was mentioned multiple times in this thread (so they were linked). you need to take some reading comprehension classes. also the the frames from bike island are decent as well for the price. oh.. and back to your 12 year old statement "brah, but thanks for playing."

Is it just me, or do the Wabi frames look like their drop outs aren't perfectly horizontal? At least the Classic & Special frames.

What size are you? I have a unridden 54cm Kazane frameset with headset, 1", lugged, and a kashimax TT protector that I'm willing to part with for under $450

Otherwise just look around and don't buy into this NJS bull****... I got a killer deal on a Koga Full Pro Track... $500 NIB w/ 1" fork.


yeah... i'm leaning towards the wabi special for sure. it looks awesome, but am thinking the 73 st will be slack coming from the 75.5 on a bianchi pista. what do you guys think, will 2 degrees matter? will i lose that track bike feel that i dearly love so much!!!???!!! NOOOOO!!! track bikes i love you!

You'll notice a HT angle difference more. One of the reasons I love my Trek T1 (red), light aluminum frame, carbon fork, and a 74-degree head tube. For as much hate as Trek gets, they really did "get it right" on that one.

man the frames suggested here are amazing looking. definitely considering holding out for one of these instead of going with the pake I was looking at. love that Gazzetta and Masi Speciale Sprint

and back to your 12 year old statement "brah, but thanks for playing."

Why did you link to the Godzilla frame? No one ever mentioned that. And my analogy makes as much sense as any of your posts.

http://pichars.org/store/2412_original_MfvXC.

I say Leader also. You'll save a couple of bucks.

I say Leader also. You'll save a couple of bucks.

:innocent:

If you're agreeing with me I love the 722. Great looking bike.

Great looking bike.

Never been a fan of dimpeled chainstays personally.

Never been a fan of dimpeled chainstays personally.

isnt that just for chainring or tire clearance depending on which side? i didnt think it was aesthetic

it's awful looking either way

You'll notice a HT angle difference more. One of the reasons I love my Trek T1 (red), light aluminum frame, carbon fork, and a 74-degree head tube. For as much hate as Trek gets, they really did "get it right" on that one.

i have a wabi lightning (more slack i think, to lazy to confirm) coming from a trek T1.
it does feel different. and its a difference i liked

Get a wabi lighning. I rode this and the classic, and the lightning made me feel like other bikes are just heavy pos steal. That being said I was looking at the steel frame frome velomine. Check it out on their website. I will not provide a link haha, google it up dawg, it's like a track bike Brahmin. Super fast ;)



Actually here is a link, it's under completes, not frames. I knew this would get confusing haha. http://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_19&products_id=788&zenid=10nl9r86rikfgjke60rsfb4k91