Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - ItalVega Super Speciale with Campagnolo Nuovo Record - ID and Worth?
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Hi, I recently found and rebuilt an old road bike that I've now identified as an ItalVega Super Speciale frame with Campagnolo Nuovo Record parts, but I don't know when it was made. (From what I've seen online, its a 1972 ItalVega Super Seciale frame and a 1971 Campagnolo Nuovo Record set).
The parts that are on the bike right now are mostly Campagnolo. The only things that aren't Campy are:
-Cinelli (Milano) handlebars
-Shimano 600 brake levers
-Suntour handlebar gear levers
-Universal Mod. 61 brake systems
The only things I've changed on the bike are the wheels, the cassette, chain, and seat, all out of necessity.
It'd be awesome if I could find out what date the bike is from and what its worth. Here are some pictures to help out.
Thanks for your time.
05-02-11, 11:00 PM
before you do anything fix this!!! this looks very dangerous.
05-03-11, 03:21 AM
And while you're working on the derailleur, have a look at the date. It's not the exact year of production, but rather a revision, if I understand correctly. If it is from 1971/72, the date should match. It should say PAT.72 or earlier (unless it has been replaced as some point in time.
hmm I did spot a pat 71 on there. Nice to know, thanks!
05-03-11, 01:02 PM
From 1971 to 1973 there were essentially no changes, there might be a date code on the back of the crank arms, or none, a date code I would expect would be a number in a diamond.
The exchange of the wheels really hurts the value. A good chance the rear was spread to accept the newer wheel, or it was a force fit. Even with messed up wheels but useable Campagnolo hubs it will be worth more. Your current rear skewer mod is not winning acceptance for a well wrenched machine. Creative though. As it sits, less than $300.
A good bike for a woman, the top tube is shorter than most frames of the same size, at a cost of a slacker head angle and the more truck like steering it brings.
the image is upside down
I think she means that tiny nut and washer on the skewar instead of the proper securing nut. A lot of the Italvega's were brown. My gran turismo of the same vintage came with those universal calipers/cinelli stem/and chrome under the paint. Early 70's was the best I could get. That info I got from the mavic sewups.
Hmm, when I got the bike, the wheels didn't seem to be Campy. The back wheel was the only usable part and the quick release handle said "SunShine." I think the previous owner changed it a bit to fit his/her settings.
Also, does spreading the frame a bit to fit a 7-speed (the only one I can get so far) hurt the frame? Does it hurt performance?
05-04-11, 07:37 AM
The rear wheel as it sits is unsafe. Take the axle out and replace with a new axle and nuts or a skewer.
You don't need to spread it (i.e. cold set) to go to 7 speed. It probably has enough "play" to allow for a wider hub. I've done it to a couple of different bikes and it really wasn't an issue. Of course, yours might be different. I went with a wheelset with an 8 speed hub and put a spacer on for the 7 speed cassette.
The frame is actually already spread because it didn't have enough room to accept the 7 speed.
Does it hurt performance? Should I just use a 5-speed instead?
Also (very "newbie" question), are there any greasing/oiling tips for a bike? I'm not sure if I'm doing it right.
05-16-11, 03:58 AM
If it's already spread and in view of the age of the bike, I would go for the original 5 speed.
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